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Thanks for this, Marc!

This explains why I don't have kidney stones, Mary.  On my multi-phasic blood test I get, I have phosphorus on the high side of normal.  Actually hugh phosphorus leads to kidney disease, so you want to keep the phosphorus down and not let it get too high!

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> I have been suffering from repeated kidney stones for the past several
> years and it seems to have gotten progressively worse with the proliferation
> of wireless all around me.  I have wondered whether this has anything to do
> with the calcium ion issue.

It could... some people have supplemented with phosphorous to dissolve calcium buildups (stones, etc.)

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Thanks for the recipe, Lizzie! 


I make soup like this, to which I add herbs and seasoning with cheese.  But it makes sense that it would work best without all the added ingredients for the liver and kidneys.


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Hi,
Two points here I'd like to make. First, here is a recipe for Liver/Kidney cleansing soup that is safe, easy to make,
and will help cleanse both the kidneys and liver. Take equal parts of organic celery, green beans (they can be
of the frozen kind) and zuccini. Wash, cut up and put them in a pan with just enough water to cover the veggies.
Cook until soft, then let cool. Add veggies including the WATER to a blender and puree. Then transfer to a bowl
and heat up what you want to drink. If this mixture is too thick, add more water so that it is not sludge. Do not
add any flavorings, or spices. For optimal benefit, it is best to make a large batch of this and drink 4-5 cups a day
for a few days.
Although it is not the tastiest soup I've ever had, it does help clean the kidneys/liver. Just as we clean our teeth, wash
our floors, etc, these organs do occasionally need to be cleaned/flushed. As the liver has to digest ALL solid foods,
setting aside a few days and just drinking this soup, which is thick enough to fill your belly, but thin enough to give
the liver a rest, and it helps to clean out both organs. These veggies are also alkaline which also helps.
Second point is: I'd rethink taking any phosphorus supplements, as some kidney stones are caused by too
much phosphorus in the diet.
Lizzie




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> I have been suffering from repeated kidney stones for the past several
> years and it seems to have gotten progressively worse with the proliferation
> of wireless all around me. I have wondered whether this has anything to do
> with the calcium ion issue.

It could... some people have supplemented with phosphorous to dissolve calcium buildups (stones, etc.)

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Hi Diane,
Thanks...the other day i was at the check out, buying some organic veggies. The woman next to me said: "Wow...why are you paying so much? She had the same veggies in her hand, only conventional. I pointed at the organic label and before I could speak, the cashier said: "Oh, her's are organic." I smiled and said: "Yes, isn't this nuts? We have to pay EXTRA just to buy food that's not LACED with chemicals?" People tell me " they can't afford to buy organic." My standard reply: "I can't afford NOT to. I'd rather pay up front for the cleanest food I can find,
then pay later with sickness and misery."
Did she have the heavy folds in the tissues of her eye lids that made the eye lids heavy?
Lizzie

 



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Hi Lizzie,

MG is a lot like adrenal dysfunction/ deficiency.  (I did also have that.)  Except it is much worse.  You talk about eye twitching, but my mother could not keep her eyelids open.  She could also not breathe.  The muscles which allow for breath did not function.  I am not saying that there could not be natural cures for it, but it is a bigger deal than having adrenal insufficiency.  

Yes, I do know of big pharma's involvement in medical schools.  And I do also know of the cancer scams.  People with MS were treated as we are now treated, in the mid 90s.  The disease lacked legitimacy.  Yes, people with MS knew it was real, but it took everybody knowing it was real before society would make changes that allowed them to take part in civilization (like ramps for wheelchairs, special considerations in schools, jobs at home.....)  Today people with MS have a life.  I am better ES-wise, but even I can see the writing on the wall if we cannot get others to recognize the emf problems that now exist and which gets bigger every year.  

My 2 cents;  ps I enjoyed your rant  ;)

Diane

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Accupuncture needles don't go to the muscles though.
Even with that, I wouldn't go with accupunture...especially as accupressure point therapy/reflexology
can be used successfully and is totally non-invasive as well.
Upon reading about
this "myasthenia gravis"... I couldn't help but to notice the similarities between
this set of symptoms and low adrenals. Low adrenals also effect muscle strenghth,
and it is quite common that exercise makes it worse among those with low adrenals.
Even more interesting is the eye muscles, I call it the "low adrenal eye twitch".
As for "higher antibodies" ...not really a telling sign, as any time the body's immune
system is under attack, the antibody numbers will rise.
As for global recognition of ES? What needs to happen (in my opinion) is a complete
paradigm change. To expect those who caused the problem,  are part of the problem, accessories to the problem
to FIX the problem is like asking the gov't to give the banks a bail-out, for the problems
they as an institition caused. We see how "well" that worked. I'm going to rant now.
How many billions of dollars have been given to the american cancer society? How many walk for the cures
have their been? And still, the american cancer society and all its parasitic counterparts continue to shut
down, and legally terrorize doctors who actually know how to cure cancer/ have cured cancer/ and have a much
higher success rate NOT using chemo or radiation or slash and burn; but instead using natural means.  Google the movie: "Cancer Is
Curable Now". Exhibit number one. The industrial MEDICAL complex is broken by design! It is NOT about curing. It is about
money. It is about profit. The telecommunications industry is but a brother of the american medical complex. SAme as the
pharmacuetical companies peddling drugs. Other members of this same family? The monsanto frankenfood corp, the epa with
its "lets allow a huge amt of contaminants in the water supplies". And the list goes on and on and on.
all part of the problem. Its like asking a known liar to give you the truth!
We don't need to prove that ES exist! We know it does! We need to get the corruption that has grown into a huge monster
OUT of our gov't. And that includes the halls of mainstream medicine. The pharmacueticals fund the medical schools. Did you
know that? All they need to do to stop the electro killing energies on the wireless beasts IS TO TURN THE KNOB down to
another frequency that isn't USED by the body! While that won't undo the damage that has been done, on a global basis,
what needs to happen next is for the lawsuits on cell phone damages and brain tumors to be allowed thru the court systems!
(instead of being blocked).
I'm done. Thank you for listening.

Lizzie

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Hi Lizzie,

I personally did not react badly to the EMGs after about two weeks--I was more exhausted for two weeks

(but I was also nearly completely bed-bound prior to the testing).  

While the testwas being done, I was not, generally speaking, uncomfortable.  There were a couple times I felt

like I was beinglightly shocked.  The testing took about 45 mins, if memory serves.  My mother, however,

reacted badly to the testing and said she was in a lot of pain.  We both had

to have the test for suspected myasthenia gravis, which runs in her family (my mom has it; I don't).  I suspect,

depending on what is actually wrong with you, EMG could be potentially quite painful.  My mother, however,
couldhave died if she were not dxed properly.  Since I showed similar symptoms, doctors correctly thought I
should also have the testing.  I had it repeatedly because of the unusual results of my tests.  I am still supposed
to have an EMG every 5 years, but I have not gone back since 1995 (I have been improving since 2000, so I

felt itunnecessary).

My tests were covered by insurance, yes.  I am not suggesting people run out and get this test done.  I am

asking ifanyone has already had it.  If others respond oddly to the test, it would suggest perhaps there are ways

(perhaps lessinvasive ways) to test and prove the existence of ES.  Once there is a test for ES, we will find

legitimacy likethosewho had MS did when MRIs were invented.  Once legitimacy is established, we will get

funding for medical research and, possibly, be able to reform the way wireless communication and technology is
now thrust upon us.

No, I was not aware there were any problems with needles and the meridians.  Acupuncture uses needles to
clear meridians, doesn't it?.

Hope this answers your questions,
Diane

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I'm curious...which supplements do you take that act as calcium channel blockers? Maybe I need to look more into this.
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Hi, Mary,

I don't seem to have kidney stone issues, but I would think the calcium ion issue could lead to them, yes.  It is interesting that you see increased kidney stones after bad exposures.  Have you thought of asking your doctor whether calcium channel blockers are appropriate for you?  I take supplements that act as calcium (ion) channel blockers, but I am hesitant to recommend them to others.  You really need to know exactly what is going on first.  Have you searched the curezone and natural remedy sites to see what others are recommending to do to treat/ avoid the stones?  

Good luck, I hope you find something helpful,
Diane

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Hi Diane,
I have been suffering from repeated kidney stones for the past several years and it seems to have gotten progressively worse with the proliferation of wireless all around me.  I have wondered whether this has anything to do with the calcium ion issue.  I have noticed an increase in kidney stones after bad exposures.  Anyone else experiencing this??
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Diane,

Maybe you should stop your cod live oil. I had issues w it after & year & stopped taking it.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/428487-what-are-the-benefits-of-cod-liver-oil-for-the-kidneys/

Risk of vitamin A
toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis A, caused by cod liver oil is
even higher if it is taken in large doses. Kidney patients often take 12
 g of fish oil per day, especially if they are trying to get the 1.9 g
of eicosapentanoic acid and 1.4 g of docosahexanoic acid recommended by
Donadio in his 1999 paper.

Under these circumstances, confusing cod
liver oil and fish oil could cause liver damage, hemorrhage and coma.
                                               
                                               
                                               
                                       
                                                                                               
                                                        Other Risks Since
 cod liver oil is made from the liver, contamination by polychlorinated
biphenyls and other toxic wastes and pollutants is a concern because
such substances tend to accrue in that organ. If you must take cod liver
 oil, make sure you purchase it from a reputable source to minimize this
 problem.
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/428487-what-are-the-benefits-of-cod-liver-oil-for-the-kidneys/#ixzz1cJryZDwu

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Hi, Lizzie,

You ask, "Did she have the heavy folds in the tissues of her eye lids that made the eye lids heavy?"

My reply:  No, there was no heaviness of the eyelids, the problem in MG is muscles strength and the inability of the muscle to respond to signals.

Diane

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Hi again, Lizzie,

<which supplements do you take that act as calcium channel blockers? Maybe I need to look more into this.>

I take manganese and taurine.  Taurine also acts as a sodium channel blocker.  Taurine is safe to take but manganese needs to be controlled carefully, since it can become a toxic metal in its own right.

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Hi, Kathy,

You write:

<Maybe you should stop your cod live oil. I had issues w it after & year & stopped taking it.>

Thanks for your concern, Kathy.  But I only take Norwegian cod liver oil in vit D3 capsules on days the sun doesn't shine here or every other day during the winter.  Otherwise, I only take cod liver oil during a bout with bronchitis or the flu.

<Risk of vitamin A
toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis A, caused by cod liver oil is
even higher if it is taken in large doses. Kidney patients often take 12
g of fish oil per day, especially if they are trying to get the 1.9 g
of eicosapentanoic acid and 1.4 g of docosahexanoic acid recommended by
Donadio in his 1999 paper. >

This is talking about kidney patients who take fish oil for a particular therapy.  I do not do this; my cod liver oil use is much lower than the amount which this site is talking about. 

Thanks for your concern and the info, tho,
Diane

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Thank you for that. Taurine is also in eggs too. It is also found in sulfur rich foods.
I have some organic sulfur crystals I use.
On the eyelid thing, I read that over acidity can also cause this same symptom.
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Hi again, Lizzie,

<which supplements do you take that act as calcium channel blockers? Maybe I need to look more into this.>

I take manganese and taurine.  Taurine also acts as a sodium channel blocker.  Taurine is safe to take but manganese needs to be controlled carefully, since it can become a toxic metal in its own right.

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