Symptom relief

Thanks shoshoe - that is interesting about the cortizone - might add yucca to my list of stuff to look into!!!! Steph


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 From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2012, 2:11
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Well, they both work a little differently. The turmeric helps the body's cortizone receptors to work better, but the yucca provides a natural cortizone the body can use, so it might work better for you.

When I've used it for hayfever, I take 3 1,000mg caps, usually a couple times a day, more if necessary.  Since it's a staple food, I doubt you'd have to worry about any overdose effects.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
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> I tried turmeric Snoeshoe - for inflammation - but it seemed to mess up the metals in my body - sort of trying to take them out but didn't get them far enough and the reaction was deeply unpleasant - wonder how I'd get on with yucca??
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thanks a million for this feedback Aimee - it is the first time I have heard from anyone [not affiliated to Gupta!!!!] who has experience of the programme - I will have to add it to my list of things to look into further [so many things to research - so little time!!!]

Thanks
Steph


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Hi Steph
I did order the Gupta Programme. I know that I was happier when I practised it and did the stop stop stop.  unfortunately I didn't stick to it religiously but I hear when ppl do, they see great progress.
 
I can't speak from the standpoint of experience tho.  I know it is money back guarantee but I heard him say also that if it doesn't work in 6 months, then do it for another 6 months.  I'm pretty sure the guarantee is for 6 months tho.  
 
 Maybe someone else on the board can give a more thorough evaluation.  I am not for or against as I am not qualified but having said that, I am not sorry that I ordered and have kept the tapes.
 
Aimee

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From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Symptom relief
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:51 AM

Hi Snoeshoe

I experienced what you have written about here for the first time in the 5 years that I have known about being ES - a panic attack/racing heart combo in the middle of the night where I was awake for a good couple of hours in the middle of the night, unable to get back to sleep and aware of being subject to a frequency that was affecting my  body that I could feel and could also hear and also aware of the racing heart and panicy feeling that I objectively knew there was no cause for internal to me - it was the scariest night i have ever had and has left me feeling beyond exhausted. What you say about the amygdala is interesting - a couple of years ago I started to look into a little bit Ashok Gupta's stuff on "amygdala retraining" for ME/CFS - but didn't go much further with it because I didn't know whether it was just another form of "CBT" that Gupta was packaging up with yoga and meditatiion in order to make money. But I defintely believe the
 amygdala
has a role to play in all of this sickness. 

Steph

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Sent: Monday, 10 September 2012, 1:12
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Since we were just listing our many symptoms, and some of mine
have become worse recently, it got me thinking.

A lot of our symptoms, like heart palpitations, etc. are similar/same
as if we were in a panic situation.
(Okay, so our body already knows it is, lol.)

So what part of the nervous system works with that, at least some
of these symptoms seem to originate with the amygdala.

Since we know the brain is inflamed or overcharged from the emf, I looked to see if there are studies showing microwave effect on the brain.
Well, we know it is affecting the whole body, but anyway...

I think someone else posted this Turkish study recently?
http://willthomasonline.net/turkish%20cell%20phone%20study%20confirms%20brain%20impacts.htm

"Repeated elevated levels of "feel good" dopamine in the mood-regulating amygdala means habitual cell phone users need a fix as often as cigarette smokers. But after many calls, lesions and shrinkage in the amygdala makes heavy "users" more anxious, depressed, dumber, forgetful – and aggressive.z"

Lesions, isn't that nice, since CFS/ME/fibro already causes those.

http://www.whale.to/b/mcmurtrey.html There's a few bits in amongst this page too. I wonder how they know a rat is hallucinating, or just freaking out? lol.

Anyway, I think even though it is not a fix, if we find which supplements damp down the amygdala, it would at least give some more symptom relief, which would be a nice thing.

GABA being one, but I don't know if all the ones we've found previously are all applicable here or not. Other than becoming a bunch of alcoholics; http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/effect/a/blscr040304.htm

There may be others, if someone wants to hunt around for that more?

It does have the NMDA receptors that have been looked at before, though I never checked what all parts of the brain they were in, but I think there has to be something else in this section that could have the transmissions damped down.

~ Snoshoe

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Oh man 10 days - that must have been bad - I had hoped this was a one off for me but it is continuing [tho thankfully minus the racing heart and the panic attack] and the sleep deprivation and the nightmares are awful - scary and vivid - not sure how much more of this my body can cope with - have you [or anyone else] any idea of what could be causing the surges??? I thought it might be due to the digital signal swithcover which is due to take place where I live in the next couple of weeks and that they might be boosting the signal

Steph


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Sorry you had to experience that. It went for 10 days for me, with little break, then has been less, but a surge went through last night again, not nearly as strong though.

Here's a weird thing about it though, twice, that I recall, it was like there was some sort of waffleweave grid that was over or under me, that was the pattern of the vibration, or something like that. I don't quite know what to make of it, except it was related to whatever it was.

An acquaintence's husband was having trouble sleeping and nightmares during this same time also, though he is not ES.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
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> Hi Snoeshoe
>
> I experienced what you have written about here for the first time in the 5 years that I have known about being ES - a panic attack/racing heart combo in the middle of the night where I was awake for a good couple of hours in the middle of the night, unable to get back to sleep and aware of being subject to a frequency that was affecting my  body that I could feel and could also hear and also aware of the racing heart and panicy feeling that I objectively knew there was no cause for internal to me - it was the scariest night i have ever had and has left me feeling beyond exhausted. What you say about the amygdala is interesting - a couple of years ago I started to look into a little bit Ashok Gupta's stuff on "amygdala retraining" for ME/CFS - but didn't go much further with it because I didn't know whether it was just another form of "CBT" that Gupta was packaging up with yoga and meditatiion in order to make money. But I defintely believe the
 amygdala
>  has a role to play in all of this sickness. 
>
> Steph
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ok - amygdala deffo going on my to do list - any relief I can get would be welcome !!!!


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 From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2012, 2:20
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Oh yeah, and on the amygdala. I can't believe I hadn't looked this up before, that I can remember anyway, but there are NMDA receptors in 50% of the brain at least, so there is a lot of room for turning this stuff down, though I don't consider it a fix, but a relief.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
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> Hi Snoeshoe
>
> I experienced what you have written about here for the first time in the 5 years that I have known about being ES - a panic attack/racing heart combo in the middle of the night where I was awake for a good couple of hours in the middle of the night, unable to get back to sleep and aware of being subject to a frequency that was affecting my  body that I could feel and could also hear and also aware of the racing heart and panicy feeling that I objectively knew there was no cause for internal to me - it was the scariest night i have ever had and has left me feeling beyond exhausted. What you say about the amygdala is interesting - a couple of years ago I started to look into a little bit Ashok Gupta's stuff on "amygdala retraining" for ME/CFS - but didn't go much further with it because I didn't know whether it was just another form of "CBT" that Gupta was packaging up with yoga and meditatiion in order to make money. But I defintely believe the
 amygdala
>  has a role to play in all of this sickness. 
>
> Steph
>
>


 

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No, I really don't know what is causing it, other than it something stronger. Digital, that's probably part of it, since they seem to make all things digital now.

No problems for several days now, so let's hope it's done!

--- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
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> Oh man 10 days - that must have been bad - I had hoped this was a one off for me but it is continuing [tho thankfully minus the racing heart and the panic attack] and the sleep deprivation and the nightmares are awful - scary and vivid - not sure how much more of this my body can cope with - have you [or anyone else] any idea of what could be causing the surges??? I thought it might be due to the digital signal swithcover which is due to take place where I live in the next couple of weeks and that they might be boosting the signal
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> Steph
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The "surge " seems to have diminshed with me too somewhat - here's hoping there is a good window without any surges before another comes along - i seem to get one every few weeks or so and it is miserable while it is there
Steph



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Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2012, 22:38
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No, I really don't know what is causing it, other than it something stronger. Digital, that's probably part of it, since they seem to make all things digital now.

No problems for several days now, so let's hope it's done!

--- In mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com, Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote:
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> Oh man 10 days - that must have been bad - I had hoped this was a one off for me but it is continuing [tho thankfully minus the racing heart and the panic attack] and the sleep deprivation and the nightmares are awful - scary and vivid - not sure how much more of this my body can cope with - have you [or anyone else] any idea of what could be causing the surges??? I thought it might be due to the digital signal swithcover which is due to take place where I live in the next couple of weeks and that they might be boosting the signal
>
> Steph
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