Symposium on ES and the autonomic nervous system (ANS)

23rd Annual International Symposium on Man and His Environment in
Health and Disease

Special Focus
-------------
The Autonomic Nervous System and Its Relationship to Environmental
Pollutants Including the Cardiovascular System and Electromagnetic
Sensitivity

June 9-12 2005

This event is sponsored by the American Environmental Health
Foundation and the University of North Texas Health Science Center

American Environmental Health Foundation
8345 Walnut Hill Lane, Suite 225 • Dallas, Texas 75231-4262

Symposium Purpose
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Since 1981, the International Symposium has been recognized as one of
the most advanced medical forums in the world addressing the research
and treatment of environmental effects on health and disease. The 2005
conference will focus on The Autonomic Nervous System and Its
Relationship to Environmental Pollutants Including the Cardiovascular
System and Electromagnetic Sensitivity. This Conference presents the
most current information available while providing guidelines to
identify, diagnose, treat and to prevent environmentally triggered
responses in the body.


Some of the presentations being made:

Doug Seba, Ph.D.,
Independent Marine Scientist, Alexandria, VA
Title: "Environmental Update 2005: Chemicals, Nerves and
Electromagnetism"

Professor Cyril Smith, Ph.D.,
Retired from Salford University, Eccles,
Manchester, U.K.
Titles: "Electromagnetic Sensitivity and the ANS" and
"ANS Involvement
in Chemical and Electromagnetic Sensitivities"

Kou Sakabe, M.D.,
Clinical Ecologist, Environmental Toxicologist,
Environmental Medical Center, Setagaya,
Tokyo, Japan
Title: "Effect of EMF on Male Reproductive Organs"

They may be willing to share their papers, so I wanted to pass this
info along.

-Beau

Hi, Beau!
Thanks for posting this interesting info about Symposium!
Would anyone of us be able to attend it?? I am so curious to see the
papers... Are you going to contact them with a request for papers?

I would be happy to learn something new on the issue, as I am lacking
inspiration for my future projects... It is partially due to too little time
available to me for contemplations, but partially due to the fact I have no
guess how to make any further step towards understanding of this weird ES
phenomenon... The recently posted Ed's artice on Tao Healing and ES was
quite refreshing and inspiring, it is one of the best things I read, but I
am still searching for something that opens any possibilty for exact and
easy experimentation...

Drasko


>>They may be willing to share their papers, so I wanted to pass this
info along.

-Beau

Hi, Drasko!

Good to hear from you, I've been wondering how you've been. I'm not
frequently reading the group recently, so pardon the delay. Yeah, I'm
first going to try getting Dr. Smith's lecture notes, then Dr. Seba's.

Beau

--- In [hidden email], "Drasko Cvijovic" <pecina@c...> wrote:
> Hi, Beau!
> Thanks for posting this interesting info about Symposium!
> Would anyone of us be able to attend it?? I am so curious to see the
> papers... Are you going to contact them with a request for papers?
>
> I would be happy to learn something new on the issue, as I am lacking
> inspiration for my future projects... It is partially due to too
little time
> available to me for contemplations, but partially due to the fact I
have no
> guess how to make any further step towards understanding of this
weird ES
> phenomenon... The recently posted Ed's artice on Tao Healing and ES was
> quite refreshing and inspiring, it is one of the best things I read,
but I

Hi, Beau!
Well, I am going fine... Nice to hear from you!.. Please let us have the
lectures you mentioned if you get them! I am so anxious to hear any new
theoretical view!

There are not many news from my side, I am stuck as I mentioned before...
Besides Aaronia and other RF/MW meters I have now a new $1.500 Gigahertz
meter that reads radars and everything (except some weird frequencies that I
dont have a reason to suspct them for being present here...)...
Now when I have all the meters, I am positive it is not all up to measurable
EMFs... You see, I have a small hut near over the hill where I feel much
better than in this house where I live. Even the possible sources of
longitudinal (!?) waves are more threatening there about the hut than here
in the house (not to mention that measurable fields are here zero, while
there significantly readable)... So I am searching for alternative
explanations... I would appreciate any idea what else to try besides:

- Dowsing (as I mentioned I don't have a dowser whom I would trust as none
of them testes himself, so I don't believe much tehir explanations)

- Feng Shui (I was told recently that placing a large rock could be of help,
"as it grounds chi", so I am planning to bring a huge rock to my room to see
what happens...)


Drasko

----- Original Message -----
From: "bbin37" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:50 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Symposium on ES and the autonomic nervous system (ANS)

Hello Drasko,

if you do have the HF 59B, the forecast is, that the special antenna, for
measuring below 800 MHz , will be available mid June.

Below 800 MHZ, we are being pestered by TETRA (police, fireman, etc), DAB
(digital audio), DVB-T (digital television).

Personally I have found pestering by frequencies (as I can detect them with
a VLF Detector) between 5 kHz and 30 kHz as well as between 30 kHz and 150
kHz, whereas the most is present between 5 kHz and 30 kHz, from a variety of
sources like halogen lamps, other lamps, stereo and televison installations,
phones (even with cord), alarm and burglar installations, computers in the
off position, monitord and flat screens in the off-position. Even some smoke
detectors may give nasty signals.

But there is more to it.
I came upon a posting in another newsgroup:
*************
I ran across an article in Laser Focus World magazine (a trade
magazine) that may be of interest to the group. It describes
terahertz scanning in the frequency range of .2 to .6THz. These RF
(?) frequencies penetrate solid objects and do not reflect like
standard high frequencies (microwaves). The article is posted online
at:
http://lfw.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?
Section=ARTCL&ARTICLE_ID=227422&VERSION_NUM=1&p=12

In the article are some photos that are quite revealing (pun
intended). Many materials become invisible.

What piqued my interest is that these terahertz "waves" are
not
detectable, at least using conventional equipment. Plasma tubes have
always been thought of as RF frequency generators, but obviously,
they generate other, much higher frequencies that we detect with our
eyes (light) and feel with our nerves (infrared/heat). These
terahertz frequencies lie just below the infrared area. While not
mainstream physics, it is possible that the plasma emits these
frequencies.

By the way, one Terahertz is 1000 GHz

*************

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 21:23
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Symposium on ES and the autonomic nervous system
(ANS)


> Hi, Beau!
> Well, I am going fine... Nice to hear from you!.. Please let us have the
> lectures you mentioned if you get them! I am so anxious to hear any new
> theoretical view!
>
> There are not many news from my side, I am stuck as I mentioned before...
> Besides Aaronia and other RF/MW meters I have now a new $1.500 Gigahertz
> meter that reads radars and everything (except some weird frequencies that
I
> dont have a reason to suspct them for being present here...)...
> Now when I have all the meters, I am positive it is not all up to
measurable help,
> "as it grounds chi", so I am planning to bring a huge rock to my room to
see (ANS) was
> > > quite refreshing and inspiring, it is one of the best things I read,
> > but I
> > > am still searching for something that opens any possibilty for exact
and

Hi, Charles!
Thanks for replying!

Yes, I am expecting the HF 59b antenna and the amplifier from Niels soon...

Meanwhile I have been combining other meters for lower frequencies...
KHz frequencies I eliminate simply by not using such appliances (and I have
the nearest neighbour some 200 meters away)...

And the extermely high frquencies I generally ignore as I am currently
concerned with comparations and those very high frequencies should have
covered all the land... (i could have been wrong with that assumption but as
you say there is no way to test them...)


Drasko



----- Original Message -----
From: "charles" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Symposium on ES and the autonomic nervous system
(ANS)


> Hello Drasko,
>
> if you do have the HF 59B, the forecast is, that the special antenna, for
> measuring below 800 MHz , will be available mid June.
>
> Below 800 MHZ, we are being pestered by TETRA (police, fireman, etc), DAB
> (digital audio), DVB-T (digital television).
>
> Personally I have found pestering by frequencies (as I can detect them
with
> a VLF Detector) between 5 kHz and 30 kHz as well as between 30 kHz and 150
> kHz, whereas the most is present between 5 kHz and 30 kHz, from a variety
of
> sources like halogen lamps, other lamps, stereo and televison
installations,
> phones (even with cord), alarm and burglar installations, computers in the
> off position, monitord and flat screens in the off-position. Even some
smoke before...
> > Besides Aaronia and other RF/MW meters I have now a new $1.500 Gigahertz
> > meter that reads radars and everything (except some weird frequencies
that
> I
> > dont have a reason to suspct them for being present here...)...
> > Now when I have all the meters, I am positive it is not all up to
> measurable
> > EMFs... You see, I have a small hut near over the hill where I feel much
> > better than in this house where I live. Even the possible sources of
> > longitudinal (!?) waves are more threatening there about the hut than
here
> > in the house (not to mention that measurable fields are here zero, while
> > there significantly readable)... So I am searching for alternative
> > explanations... I would appreciate any idea what else to try besides:
> >
> > - Dowsing (as I mentioned I don't have a dowser whom I would trust as
none lacking this

Hi Drasko,

" Feng Shui (I was told recently that placing a large rock could be of
help, "as it grounds chi", so I am planning to bring a huge rock to my
room to see what happens...)"

Hehe - I cant wait to see what your family/neigbours think of that :-)

Let us know how it goes! - Maybe post a picture !!

Cheers
Pete


Drasko Cvijovic wrote:

Well, I already brought a stone, not so large, one that I could carry
myself, to see whether it was worth investing further... I was not
impressed...
But meanwhile, I have planted a rod into the ground outside the house and
brought a wire from it to my room, as a kind of grounding.... That seems to
have some soothing effects, despites the fact I have no EMFs in my room!!??
It is interesting, I am still testing that...

Regarding your question, I have the first neighbour 200 meters away, and I
don't know him well... My wife and daughters are used to everything (just to
mention again that I look my computer through the binoculars, that we moved
here - to the middle of nowhere, etc.). Also my friends gave up attempts to
understand me so they make no problem. The only problem are the friends of
my daughters as they consider us a kind of "Adams Family" (for other reasons
as well)...


Drasko

----- Original Message -----
From: "pete" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Symposium on ES and the autonomic nervous system
(ANS)

that I
> >dont have a reason to suspct them for being present here...)...
> >Now when I have all the meters, I am positive it is not all up to
measurable
> >EMFs... You see, I have a small hut near over the hill where I feel much
> >better than in this house where I live. Even the possible sources of
> >longitudinal (!?) waves are more threatening there about the hut than
here
> >in the house (not to mention that measurable fields are here zero, while
> >there significantly readable)... So I am searching for alternative
> >explanations... I would appreciate any idea what else to try besides:
> >
> >- Dowsing (as I mentioned I don't have a dowser whom I would trust as
none
> >of them testes himself, so I don't believe much tehir explanations)
> >
> >- Feng Shui (I was told recently that placing a large rock could be of
help,
> >"as it grounds chi", so I am planning to bring a huge rock to my room to
see (ANS) and

> Hehe - I cant wait to see what your family/neigbours think of that :-)
> Let us know how it goes! - Maybe post a picture !!

Heh, heh...

Yes, one of the criteria I use when evaluating EMF protection devices
is how "invisible" they are -- that is, how likely is someone else
to notice them and comment on them (which is something I'd rather
not have). Several years ago, I was placing all sorts of strange
looking objects around the screen on my CRT, and at work people
would always stop and ask what they were. These days, my solutions
are pretty invisible -- nobody gives a power strip a second look,
and a Springlife Polarizer on the desk can easily be hidden by
a Post-It note.

Marc