Excellent article on Sulfur. Lizzie Are You Getting Enough Sulfur in Your Body? - Articles - Mercola articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/12/the-third-abundant-mineral-in-your-body-are-you-getting-enough.aspx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Excellent article on Sulfur.
Yes, but is there any evidence that Sulfur supplementation has anything to do with ES? :-) Also, I still maintain that if one is mercury toxic, adding sulfur to your diet is probably one of the worst things you can do. And I speak from past experience on this, so hopefully others won't make the same mistakes that I did... Marc |
You know what this reminds me of? Someone who is bound and determined to never try something again, because they had a bad experience. And they blamed the messenger for the message! The messenger being the body trying to tell you something was wrong. So basically, you are punishing your body for reacting accordingly, by telling you that something was out of balance. So... your idea is to just completely avoid a mineral that plays a critical role in: oxygen transport? A mineral that is essential for joint repair- think painful joints or inflammation isn't part of ES? How about oxygen? WE don't need it? We don't need our livers to work right either, is that it? Something that is essential to health absolutely effects those with ES as well as a host of other conditions, that people with ES also often, do have. Marc, I know you're trying to help others...I think we're both trying to prevent others from making or having bad experiences. And believe me, I've had some BAD ones too! Mostly because in the beginning, I didn't have a clue that the body needed these vital nutrients/minerals. I did the right thng by supporting my thryoid and adrenals...but did a horrible thing by trying to chelate, using various diff't methods...that made it worse. Because they PULLED out the vital minerals that my body was already lacking to begin with. And minerals such as: Iodine, Magnesium in a form that the body can absorb easily, and Sulfur are essential to good health. IF the body isn't able to metabolize a vital mineral... don't blame the mineral! Find out why the body isn't able to absorb it! I want to believe that your whole intention is to help. Sometimes we can let ourselves be blinded... by a bad experience. And in this case, when you continually shoot down my suggestions...I have to re think your motives here. Are you trying to help... Or is it more important for you to be right all the time. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:22:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [eSens] Sulfur > Excellent article on Sulfur. Yes, but is there any evidence that Sulfur supplementation has anything to do with ES? :-) Also, I still maintain that if one is mercury toxic, adding sulfur to your diet is probably one of the worst things you can do. And I speak from past experience on this, so hopefully others won't make the same mistakes that I did... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> So... your idea is to just completely avoid
> a mineral that plays a critical role in: Not at all -- what I'm saying is that there is a correct order to do things, and an incorrect order. For example, if one is mercury toxic, they should probably do the following things in the following order: 1) have their mercury fillings removed 2) take a chelator to remove the mercury that has built up in their body 3) increase sulfur intake once the mercury has reduced to an acceptable level. to improve general body detoxification of chemicals, etc. Now, what would happen if someone decided to do the exact same steps, but in reverse order? Well, they'd probably die somewhere along the way. Because the increased sulfur would make the mercury poisoning worse, and chelating before your fillings are removed would make it worse still. So I have nothing against increasing sulfur intake. Just as long as it's done at the appropriate time. Marc |
I wholeheartedly agree with your order. I started to say in a perfect world, all would have their mercury fillings removed- and follow that order. But that's not right. Because in a perfect world, that poison would never have been permanently installed in people's bodies. But there are people who are unable to do have their fillings redone right now. The body still needs oxygen. And sulfur is needed for oxygen transport. And on top of that, many are unable to pay the cash' it usually takes to pay, not just for the mercury free dental work, but for the testing that shows the levels. In those cases, people need other suggestions that they CAN do. And eating raw (organic) garlic, even in small amounts can help some of them. In this case, they can simply try very small amounts... and learn to listen to their bodies. And as to chelating, really- its an on going process. Its not like you have a load of laundry, and you wash it and its all done. Mercury has a half life...and it goes sub tissue. So it makes sense to have a diet where we consistently feed the body the nutrients it needs. And it especially needs them when the burden of toxins is effecting health. Be it ES, inflammation, chronic fatigue, brain fog, insomnia, neurological conditions, heart conditions, ect, ect, ect... Have a wonderful, peaceful and wishes granted 2012! Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:16:27 -0800 Subject: RE: [eSens] Sulfur > So... your idea is to just completely avoid > a mineral that plays a critical role in: Not at all -- what I'm saying is that there is a correct order to do things, and an incorrect order. For example, if one is mercury toxic, they should probably do the following things in the following order: 1) have their mercury fillings removed 2) take a chelator to remove the mercury that has built up in their body 3) increase sulfur intake once the mercury has reduced to an acceptable level. to improve general body detoxification of chemicals, etc. Now, what would happen if someone decided to do the exact same steps, but in reverse order? Well, they'd probably die somewhere along the way. Because the increased sulfur would make the mercury poisoning worse, and chelating before your fillings are removed would make it worse still. So I have nothing against increasing sulfur intake. Just as long as it's done at the appropriate time. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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There are people who have such a toxic gut/body that their detox pathways (among lots of other things) don't work well. Some of these folks do better avoiding high-sulphur foods until the gut is healed.
Reference the archives at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/GAPShelp/ Healing the gut can optimize/negate many actions/reactions that our suffering bodies must deal with. HTH (Here's to Health) Sage~~ |
I don't disagree. And its not just detox pathways, digestive issues plays a pretty big role. And as the thryoid has LOTS to do with digestion, I would venture to say that there are alot of people with digestion issues. So a person eats spicey foods, and it upsets their stomach. Nix the spicey foods completely? Or put a small less then like 1/8 of a teaspoon of raw garlic...mix it with your food and see how it goes. Or, one could try Aloe Vera leaf concentrate...or tiny amts of onions..... The point is: you're not going to help the body regain health if the proper nutrients/minerals are LEFT OUT. Most foods are depleted in vital nutrients. So, unless you grow your own, and become a sort of soil expert, thus ensuring that the soil you grow your food in- is nutrient rich....the chances of eating a tiny amt of - say, raw garlic, and getting too much sulfur, are pretty low. And mixing this TINY amount in your food, for me, was a better way and didn't burn my stomach in the beginning. I've been eating raw garlic mixed with organic Olive Oil for a long time- mixed with food. (raw zucchini/cucumber/ on my meat/even on toast) Yes, I started with very SMALL amts and gradually built up. But honestly? I don't think there's very much sulfur in garlic these days. Put it this way. If we got enough nutrients from just our food, why are SO many of us taking supplements? Answer (mine) because there's not ENOUGH nutrients in the food we're eating! So we have to supplement! Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:36:50 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: Sulfur There are people who have such a toxic gut/body that their detox pathways (among lots of other things) don't work well. Some of these folks do better avoiding high-sulphur foods until the gut is healed. Reference the archives at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/GAPShelp/ Healing the gut can optimize/negate many actions/reactions that our suffering bodies must deal with. HTH (Here's to Health) Sage~~ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Cool.
You guys are so awesome with your experience. Wow. I have a mouth half full of mercury fillings I can only imagine what it will cost to have them removed and refilled with the composite. But thanks for the info so that one day I'll have some idea of what to do, if I'm fortunate enough to ever get them replaced. Thanks. --- On Sat, 12/31/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Sulfur To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 11:16 PM > So... your idea is to just completely avoid > a mineral that plays a critical role in: Not at all -- what I'm saying is that there is a correct order to do things, and an incorrect order. For example, if one is mercury toxic, they should probably do the following things in the following order: 1) have their mercury fillings removed 2) take a chelator to remove the mercury that has built up in their body 3) increase sulfur intake once the mercury has reduced to an acceptable level. to improve general body detoxification of chemicals, etc. Now, what would happen if someone decided to do the exact same steps, but in reverse order? Well, they'd probably die somewhere along the way. Because the increased sulfur would make the mercury poisoning worse, and chelating before your fillings are removed would make it worse still. So I have nothing against increasing sulfur intake. Just as long as it's done at the appropriate time. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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My sentiments and circumstances exactly, thank you and Happy New Year!
--- On Sun, 1/1/12, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Sulfur To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, January 1, 2012, 12:27 AM I wholeheartedly agree with your order. I started to say in a perfect world, all would have their mercury fillings removed- and follow that order. But that's not right. Because in a perfect world, that poison would never have been permanently installed in people's bodies. But there are people who are unable to do have their fillings redone right now. The body still needs oxygen. And sulfur is needed for oxygen transport. And on top of that, many are unable to pay the cash' it usually takes to pay, not just for the mercury free dental work, but for the testing that shows the levels. In those cases, people need other suggestions that they CAN do. And eating raw (organic) garlic, even in small amounts can help some of them. In this case, they can simply try very small amounts... and learn to listen to their bodies. And as to chelating, really- its an on going process. Its not like you have a load of laundry, and you wash it and its all done. Mercury has a half life...and it goes sub tissue. So it makes sense to have a diet where we consistently feed the body the nutrients it needs. And it especially needs them when the burden of toxins is effecting health. Be it ES, inflammation, chronic fatigue, brain fog, insomnia, neurological conditions, heart conditions, ect, ect, ect... Have a wonderful, peaceful and wishes granted 2012! Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:16:27 -0800 Subject: RE: [eSens] Sulfur > So... your idea is to just completely avoid > a mineral that plays a critical role in: Not at all -- what I'm saying is that there is a correct order to do things, and an incorrect order. For example, if one is mercury toxic, they should probably do the following things in the following order: 1) have their mercury fillings removed 2) take a chelator to remove the mercury that has built up in their body 3) increase sulfur intake once the mercury has reduced to an acceptable level. to improve general body detoxification of chemicals, etc. Now, what would happen if someone decided to do the exact same steps, but in reverse order? Well, they'd probably die somewhere along the way. Because the increased sulfur would make the mercury poisoning worse, and chelating before your fillings are removed would make it worse still. So I have nothing against increasing sulfur intake. Just as long as it's done at the appropriate time. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You know you can have them replaced at a much cheaper rate in Malaysia? For each filling RM50-200 (USD17-67) depending on the size. See here: http://users.cjb.net/no-amalgam/index.htm
pamela clemonts wrote thus at 10:21 02/01/2012: >Cool. >½A0 >You guys are so awesome with your experience. Wow. I have a mouth half full of mercury fillings I can only imagine what it will cost to have them removed and refilled with the composite. But thanks for the info so that one day I'll have some idea of what to do, if I'm fortunate enough to ever get them replaced. >½A0 >Thanks. > >--- On Sat, 12/31/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> >Subject: RE: [eSens] Sulfur >To: [hidden email] >Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 11:16 PM > > > > > > > >> So... your idea is to just completely avoid >> a mineral that plays a critical role in: > >Not at all -- what I'm saying is that there is a correct >order to do things, and an incorrect order. For example, >if one is mercury toxic, they should probably do the >following things in the following order: > >1) have their mercury fillings removed >2) take a chelator to remove the mercury that has built >up in their body >3) increase sulfur intake once the mercury has >reduced to an acceptable level. to improve >general body detoxification of chemicals, etc. > >Now, what would happen if someone decided to do the >exact same steps, but in reverse order? Well, they'd >probably die somewhere along the way. Because the >increased sulfur would make the mercury poisoning >worse, and chelating before your fillings are removed >would make it worse still. > >So I have nothing against increasing sulfur intake. >Just as long as it's done at the appropriate time. > >Marc > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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Hi Pamela,
I spent $1544 in 2005 to replace 7 fillings. Had it done up in Nelson, British Columbia, back before passport requirements stopped travel. Stewart pamela clemonts wrote: > You guys are so awesome with your experience. Wow. I have a mouth half full of mercury fillings I can only imagine what it will cost to have them removed and refilled with the composite. |
Hi Stewart,
Happy New Year! Thank you so much for your kind intuition. Do you live near British Columbia? I'm in the NJ/NYC area. I can imagine that if it costed you $1544 in 2005 for 7 teeth that it would probably be considerably more now. Is this a stretch? You wouldn't happen to have any idea how much this might cost in the US, would you? I also suppose it's not anything that dental insurance would partially cover (most of their plans are so poor as it is). I don't have it at this time, but I may have it in the future. Oh and I just counted. I have seven teeth, also. The other eSens members and sources have stated that the fillings should be removed in a special way. Did you have any problems with gassing out? I have a couple of chipped teeth in the back and recently I have had times when I would experience what I called gassing out. It leaves a certain taste in my mouth and does seem to have a minimal sensation when it occurs. It seems to be improving, but for about two months I was experiencing it as much as daily. This mercury thing is quite perturbing. Makes me wonder why society remains soooo screwed up that medicine can be as harmful as any potentially deadly illness ina "so-called" enlightened era. Pamela --- On Mon, 1/2/12, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote: From: S Andreason <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Removed mercury fillings Was: Sulfur To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 10:48 AM Hi Pamela, I spent $1544 in 2005 to replace 7 fillings. Had it done up in Nelson, British Columbia, back before passport requirements stopped travel. Stewart pamela clemonts wrote: > You guys are so awesome with your experience. Wow. I have a mouth half full of mercury fillings I can only imagine what it will cost to have them removed and refilled with the composite. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Pamela,
Yes, I'm about 20 miles from Danville,WA or 14 Mi from the border. Very likely to be much more in the US. I have not priced around since, obviously, and I forget what the price quotes were for the Colville office. Insurance won't cover "cosmetic" reasons. Yes precautions were taken in full, including the dam, and air cleaner, like a vacuum, to remove out gassing during drilling. I had to have the motor moved away from my legs. Otherwise it went very well. Modern medicine thinks the only ones enlightened are the ones making money. Stewart pamela clemonts wrote: > Hi Stewart, > > Happy New Year! Thank you so much for your kind intuition. Do you live near British Columbia? > > You wouldn't happen to have any idea how much this might cost in the US, would you? > > I also suppose it's not anything that dental insurance would partially cover (most of their plans are so poor as it is). I don't have it at this time, but I may have it in the future. > > The other eSens members and sources have stated that the fillings should be removed in a special way. Did you have any problems with gassing out? > > > This mercury thing is quite perturbing. Makes me wonder why society remains soooo screwed up that medicine can be as harmful as any potentially deadly illness ina "so-called" enlightened era. > > |
I believe they'll remove them starting at 175 to 250, which is a guess. It depends on what type of tooth & the size of the amalgam. I had a mouth full of amalgams & had too many out, so had to get dentures. A drag, but they're out. I felt so much better. I had a hair test that does not show I'm still poisoned. Dentists should have a legal warning about mercury, before putting one in. Mos us have no idea we're getting 50% mercury. One step at a time. Kathy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thank you so much Stewart!
Blessings to you! --- On Mon, 1/2/12, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote: From: S Andreason <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Removed mercury fillings Was: Sulfur To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 4:27 PM Hi Pamela, Yes, I'm about 20 miles from Danville,WA or 14 Mi from the border. Very likely to be much more in the US. I have not priced around since, obviously, and I forget what the price quotes were for the Colville office. Insurance won't cover "cosmetic" reasons. Yes precautions were taken in full, including the dam, and air cleaner, like a vacuum, to remove out gassing during drilling. I had to have the motor moved away from my legs. Otherwise it went very well. Modern medicine thinks the only ones enlightened are the ones making money. Stewart pamela clemonts wrote: > Hi Stewart, > > Happy New Year! Thank you so much for your kind intuition. Do you live near British Columbia? > > You wouldn't happen to have any idea how much this might cost in the US, would you? > > I also suppose it's not anything that dental insurance would partially cover (most of their plans are so poor as it is). I don't have it at this time, but I may have it in the future. > > The other eSens members and sources have stated that the fillings should be removed in a special way. Did you have any problems with gassing out? > > > This mercury thing is quite perturbing. Makes me wonder why society remains soooo screwed up that medicine can be as harmful as any potentially deadly illness ina "so-called" enlightened era. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Wow, thanks Kathy. I want to be clear. Did you have the teeth removed because it was too much money to just replace the fillings? Or would it have been ineffective? Also, I paid once after a root canal to have the amalgam replaced. At the time it was $120 to put in the composite alone. Also, are those recent prices that you quoted or were they fromm the time when you were having you teeth done?
Happy New Year, Kathy! I hope it can somehow be a better one for all, somehow. Pam --- On Mon, 1/2/12, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: From: KathyB <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Removed mercury fillings Was: Sulfur To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 10:44 PM I believe they'll remove them starting at 175 to 250, which is a guess. It depends on what type of tooth & the size of the amalgam. I had a mouth full of amalgams & had too many out, so had to get dentures. A drag, but they're out. I felt so much better. I had a hair test that does not show I'm still poisoned. Dentists should have a legal warning about mercury, before putting one in. Mos us have no idea we're getting 50% mercury. One step at a time. Kathy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
It would have been ineffective. I had to have a bridge removed due to infection, so would have needed an implant to keep them. I didn't want anything to do w implants even before I knew what I do now. I had too many fillings. It would have cost too much along with above. They are recent prices. I asked a few mos ago. My daughter needs one removed. I'm praying for a better year as well. It's encouraging to read all the smart meter legal goings on. Kathy <[hidden email] wrote: Re: [eSens] Re: Removed mercury fillings Was: Sulfur Wow, thanks Kathy. I want to be clear. Did you have the teeth removed because it was too much money to just replace the fillings? Or would it have been ineffective? Also, I paid once after a root canal to have the amalgam replaced. At the time it was $120 to put in the composite alone. Also, are those recent prices that you quoted or were they fromm the time when you were having you teeth done? Happy New Year, Kathy! I hope it can somehow be a better one for all, somehow. Pam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Pam,
You can read the procedures here. http://www.toothbody.com/biological-dentist-st-louis-services.php He may know of a dentist in your area. Blessings, Kathy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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