I began testing outlets with my Stetzer meter, and I was horrified at the results.
A reading of 20 or below is ideal. There is a chart on the back of the meter that shows a reading of 50 or above shows you need filters. My readings were 250. What sort of readings did those of you who have the meters get in your homes? I phoned Stetzer Electric. I bought my filters from them. I got lots of information about the negative effects on health, including blood sugar levels and M.S. One of the people I talked to said he was sure I must feel awful. Their web site has some interesting research papers too. www.stetzerelectric.com Josie --------------------------------- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I began testing outlets with my Stetzer meter, and I was horrified at the
> results. Don't be so horrified. 250 isn't so terrible. In my previous house and in my current house, I've seen all sorts of readings. I don't use the Stetzer filters, so the lowest readings I've seen (usually on a Sunday morning) are about 40. A typical evening with the TV on is 150 - 250. I've seen higher readings, but usually they are just temporary -- for example, once I looked at the meter and it was reading 1100. So, depending on the time of day, a reading of 250 may be considered to be "typical". Note that the quality of your power outlets can affect the meter readings. I had one outlet that read 500 - 1000 a lot of the time while other outlets were much lower, so I replaced the outlet and then the readings lowered to the same as the other outlets. Marc |
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The numbers on the meters don't mean anything - if you buy 2 of them, one
meter will give you a different reading than the other. They just basically measure what the filters do to your wires - if the filters make you feel better then great, they help some people, some feel nothing, some feel worse. On 5/22/07, PickPinkFlowers <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I began testing outlets with my Stetzer meter, and I was horrified at > the results. > A reading of 20 or below is ideal. There is a chart on the back of the > meter that > shows a reading of 50 or above shows you need filters. My readings were > 250. > > What sort of readings did those of you who have the meters get in your > homes? > > I phoned Stetzer Electric. I bought my filters from them. > I got lots of information about the negative > effects on health, including blood sugar levels and M.S. > One of the people I talked to said he > was sure I must feel awful. > > Their web site has some interesting research papers too. > > www.stetzerelectric.com > > Josie > > --------------------------------- > Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're > surfing. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Have you compared 2 meters side by side?
Seems to me the meter must be calibrated, at least enough to know where 50 is. I've seen numbers over 1000 for extended periods of time, in a public building with the "new" electronic ballasts that conserve energy and _flicker_less_. Josie, the meter is probably most useful in evaluating other equipment, besides seeing how many filters, and where to place them, it takes to reduce the noise in the wiring. I wrote several months ago, about swapping a motherboard, taking a reading, swapping a power supply, taking a reading, etc. that made a big difference in the readings. Stewart Paul Coffman wrote: > The numbers on the meters don't mean anything - if you buy 2 of them, one > meter will give you a different reading than the other. They just basically > measure what the filters do to your wires - if the filters make you feel > better then great, they help some people, some feel nothing, some feel > worse. > |
Somebody I know has done it and told me that is what he observed.
On 5/23/07, S. Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Have you compared 2 meters side by side? > > Seems to me the meter must be calibrated, at least enough to know where > 50 is. > > I've seen numbers over 1000 for extended periods of time, in a public > building with the "new" electronic ballasts that conserve energy and > _flicker_less_. > > Josie, > the meter is probably most useful in evaluating other equipment, besides > seeing how many filters, and where to place them, it takes to reduce the > noise in the wiring. > > I wrote several months ago, about swapping a motherboard, taking a > reading, swapping a power supply, taking a reading, etc. that made a big > difference in the readings. > > Stewart > > Paul Coffman wrote: > > The numbers on the meters don't mean anything - if you buy 2 of them, > one > > meter will give you a different reading than the other. They just > basically > > measure what the filters do to your wires - if the filters make you feel > > better then great, they help some people, some feel nothing, some feel > > worse. > > > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Paul Coffman wrote:
"The surge meter is not calibrated, so the result numbers don't mean anything, the only relative thing you will see is you'll see a higher number before you put the filters on, and a lower number after, but you can't just buy a surge meter to see how much rf is on your lines, the actual numbers they give are meaningless." The numbers are far from "meaningless." What is indicated is, however, a unit of measurement that is new to the world, Graham/Stetzer units. Just as Volts and Hertz have become common words, GS units may as well. You can read more about the surgemeter on my Web site. Shivani www.LifeEnergies.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> The numbers are far from "meaningless." What is indicated is,
> however, a unit of measurement that is new to the world, Graham/Stetzer units. > Just as Volts and Hertz have become common words, GS units may as well. GS units will never become a standard unless they are clearly defined. And I see no clear definition anywhere on your site or anywhere else. All I see is that they are "dV/dt". Can we assume that dV is measured in volts, and dt is measured in seconds? If so, someone should state that. And what is the sampling rate for this calculation? Certainly if you are taking a sample once every second, the result will be far different than if you are taking 100,000 samples a second. And different sampling rates are going to emphasize noise in different frequency ranges. So while we have gotten used to the numerical values on the Graham Stetzer meters, what those values actually represent remain vague... Marc |
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Have you ever used 2 different meters to measure your lines - did they both
give the same number? According to my friend, he had 2 and they didn't - they aren't calibrated, which means the actual number IS meaningless, and therefore there is no such thing as a 'Graham/Stetzer unit'. On 5/24/07, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Paul Coffman wrote: > "The surge meter is not calibrated, so the result numbers don't > mean anything, the only relative thing you will see is you'll see a higher > number before you put the filters on, and a lower number after, but you > can't just buy a surge meter to see how much rf is on your lines, the > actual > numbers they give are meaningless." > > The numbers are far from "meaningless." What is indicated is, > however, a unit of measurement that is new to the world, Graham/Stetzer > units. > Just as Volts and Hertz have become common words, GS units may as well. > You can read more about the surgemeter on my Web site. > Shivani > www.LifeEnergies.com > > ************************************** > See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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