Some insight from someone who completely healed once only to get EMF sensnitive again
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I don't claim this will apply to everyone, but this is what happened to me and made it will strike some ideas and questions from other people.
I had lots of problems that were clearly trauma related like anxiety and PTSD since a young child due to a abusive family. Conventional help was not helpful because they wanted to drug me with things that didn't help much, mostly caused more side effects than they were worth. Or they wanted to do extensive talk therapy that never worked, or they provided CBT which was like arguing yourself out of your feelings and so it never helped. I think because I never had good help I Just found myself in situation that made my traumas worse and worse. As a simple example working in call center when I had extreme social anxiety, rather than teaching me to talk to others were safe it only made me more afraid and therefore this and other experiences led to more health problems like IBS and more intense anxiety. As it got worse I got mislead as far as I can tell into thinking this was lyme disease and ended up causing more traumas in attempts to 'cure' that. Which lead to more problems. I developed MCS for instance after taking antibiotics that were giving me serve negative allergic-like reactions and continuing to take them anyway because they all seemed to cause that problem, and I was convinced through fear at the time to just continue taking them and dealing with it. But that resulted in MCS instead. At some point I made a choice that I knew at the time was dumb was to use a rife machine that used a 1500watt amplifier on myself to try to 'kill' the lyme disease. It would immediately trigger the same type of response that others who are EMF sensitive have each time I used it. I was told before I started using it that it was normal to get pretty ill from using it as the result of killing the lyme, so I used it at least several times before stopping because of how bad the reactions were. Usually after using it I would use my computer as I normally was on it a lot. So I would have the reactions infront of my computer and not attribute them to the computer as I had just used the machine. But then I stopped using the rife machine, and if I sat infront of the computer I has the same reaction as if I used the rife machine! Looking back I wonder if f I was already EMF sensitive now from the few times I used the rife machine, or if there was some odd conditioned response happening simply because I had reactions infront of it after using the rife machine. Not sure I will ever know. But from there I gradually realized I was reacting to much more things and through getting a meter and experimenting I realized it was the low frequency electric fields that seem to set me off. For instance if I use a phone I have a reaction, but if I carry it without having the screen on no reaction either, if I turn off wifi and cell access and use it I still have a reaction. So a much different trigger than most people who seem to be sensitive to higher frequencies. I tested myself near a wifi router and other things like that and could not determine that I have a reaction. But if I put my head near wiring related things in the walls, or lights, or other appliances I feel it rather faster. Anyway at some point I decided what if this could be treated as just a traumatic event and I would do some sort of PTSD type treatments and maybe that would help. I tried various method on the event of using the rife machine, but there was not much there like a emotional trauma for instance to target as I wasn't even afraid using it as I expected it would help me and was not that disturbed when I had the bad reactions. So that specific targeting didn't work. So I started to expand it by trying to heal every trauma and bad experience I ever had. Within a month of doing this I started to decrease in sensitivity when previously it just kept getting worse. I kept doing that and would test mysef every few months and within 2 years I was completely free of it. What was interesting to me is I never tried to address any 'irrationality' or anxious thoughts that people who are skeptical would assume would be the cause of this. When I healed I was still super anxious and hypervigilant about having more reactions. It was only when the reactions stopped that eventually that other stuff eventually stopped through proof over and over that I was safe. So I went back to as I had before doing a tech job on the computer and I was still suffering from PTSD and anxiety and such, but at least no signs of EMF reactions and so I continued trying to heal what remained. I decided to try neurofeedback at one point as that seemed like a really good modality given what I read about it. It was working to make me much calmer at first, but it quickly started to trigger very similar reactions to the EMF sensitivity. I did not connect it to that at all at first. For one neurofeedback is pretty non-invasive they don't use radiation on purpose to try to treat you. They read what signals your brainwaves are at in certain places, and try to get them to go to more relaxed ones by moving something on a computer game when your brainwaves are going towards the direction that the technician thinks will help you. Apparently your brain will rather quickly figure out the game is responding to its brain waves and adjust to try to win the game even if you don't understand the concept, or even not being told what is happening. The proof of this is you can do it on children to young to understand and animals and it still works. I let them know what was happening as far as the physical reactions in my body and they kept trying to adjust how they were training my brain and they were never able to get it respond well afterwards. Eventually I gave up, but continued to have problems that I didn't connect to EMF sensitivity as I assumed they just messed up my nervous system and that was that. At some point I started stopping using my phone and computer daily and then started to get much better, and when i'm better the reactions come in very loud and clear and was easily able to see I have EMF sensitivity again. So now to figure out how to heal once again! |
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Oh wow interesting. I did not recall my old account info, but I see it linked me to it as my old posts are available from 2011 if you click my name. I had made a new one again and I see it linked probably because of the same email address!
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Nice to see you went through another path of healing and that worked in the past.
I don't understand what you mean by trying to heal again? Has EHS come back again due to neurofeed back? I follow dr Klinghardt on his theory of 5 levels of healing, a sort of Indian philosophical model, where a human being is not only seen as having multiple bodies. Physical body Electromagnetic body Mental /psycho body Dream body Spiritual body The more ethereal the body, the 'deeper' it is. So theoretically, if you treat the subtler bodies, you heal the under bodies: like treating traumas could treat the electromagnetic and physical body. Dr Klinghardt goes a bit further saying that health problems have different causes, and that if the cause is in a subtler body, you need to treat that to eliminate the problem for good. If your electrosensitivity had one cause in the psycho body, and you treat that cause, you can theoretically heal or get better, even physically. But as chronic diseases are not as simple as this model, your electrosensitivity may have other causes going through all the levels, and all of them need attention. You certainly treated one cause (trauma), but the others are still on, probably (?) EHS people have super sensitive nerves, in my opinion, due to high inflammation of nerves. Inflammation occurs for 3 reasons: infection, accident (physical injury) or allergy. There is no other cause, not that I heard of. Of course, the mental part can play a role, weakening the nerves, but in the physical level, there are only 3 causes. Chronic infection comes due to weakening of the nerves. And the causes we know about are toxins attached to the nerves due to electrical charge: heavy metals or most pesticides seem to have a charge that stick to nerves, and only special treatments (like the right antioxidants, binders, voltage etc) can liberate these toxins from them. Pathogens will always grow chronically on toxic areas. If the area were not toxic, the immune system would be working, not allowing pathogens to grow. So there you are: nerves with toxins AND pathogens causing inflammation and hyper sensitivity, and eventually EHS. Another problem with toxins are heavy metals: they work as antennas, and like a radio antenna, and they not only take the external EMFs but also mess up with the body's electrical signals, I mean, the nerves cannot pass the currents well, like with a false contact due to the presence of metals. These are just my thoughts, after literally more than a decade trying to understand why some fall so ill, while others don't. Others don't have the same type of toxins, or their toxins attach somewhere else than nerves, or their pathogens are less toxic than ours, or their pathogen load is lower... Allergy is another biggie, in my opinion. We keep eating foods that are highly inflammatory, not only to the bowel, but to the whole body. It is not a joke when I say that all EHS people have MCS (or close to), develop many allergies (food and other types of allergies), have big problems in their digestion, have clogged livers, malfunctioning glands all over the body, and their vagus and other nerves are totally burdened with inflammation, due to toxins (lots of heavy metals on top of the list) and due to pathogens. The pathogen part looks crazy for newbies, but if just think about bowel problems: they do involve the most important part of your microbiome: the gut flora. That all EHS people have problems there, in the gut, I have no doubt. I believe the problem is bigger than allergy only, that they are eating highly allergenic foods such as eggs, dairy products, gluten, pesticides and toxic processed foods, for example. If you eat only ONE of these items in your diet you can develop IBS, for example. These are just my thoughts.... I can't prove any of it. Unfortunately, the EHS problem is not coming alone: it's not a simple sensitivity to electrosmog. It is a much bigger health problem that involves the whole immune system, digestive system, excretion system and at the core of all that are toxins and pathogens as trouble makers... but I don't want to discourage you. Only leaving those highly inflammatory foods off my diet cured ALL my food allergies in 4 months. And my daughter's food allergies (she was born full of allergies, and now she's 15). She's reacting now only to kiwi, but before, we could eat only bananas and watermelons, basically, almost all other fruits burned our mouth... |
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I just came to finish the 5th book of Anthony William, the Celery book.
I know he' s 'just' a medium, but a lot of what I'm doing diet-wise is helping me a lot. I realize that , if he is right, celery juice ALONE could incredibly help cure EHS, if taken on a certain amount, daily (if I still had EHS, I would try to reach 4 glasses a day, even 6 or 8 if necessary). He says that celery is an herb, and that extracting the juice is a medicinal procedure. The juice is not food, it's medicine. The juice is full of sodium cluster salts bounded with LOADS of minerals, that got a certain ionic charge (that's how I interpret the book). These salts cancel the charge of heavy metals, viruses, and constitute the best electrolyte solution you can find on planet earth (much better than coconut water or anything expensive you may buy). He says that. And that these salts work like a disinfectant, and kill some bacteria and virus, plus it has enzymes that break biofilm (the protective mucus in the gut or all over the body, where bacteria and viruses hide behind). He also says that the salts can rebuild the totality of hydrochloric acid in the stomach, fortifying it, so that it will become strong enough to kill bacteria and digest protein better. It's undigested protein going to the gut that feeds the unproductive bacteria, due to weak HCl in the stomach (and due to high toxic load we all have, pesticides, etc), and then it causes a series of problems there. The same salts from celery are a complete package of electrolytes that will feed neurotransmitters. So yes, this simple celery juice can rebuild neurotransmitters that got undernourished by toxins, pathogens, poor nutrition... He says that hypersensitivity of nerves come from these faulty signals in the neurons, due to heavy metals or due to other toxins, or to lack of electrolytes or chronic infection from viral origin (or many causes at once!!). It seems that celery JUICE is all the package in one! You just need to take it in certain amount, as the charge of the salts get canceled as it travels in the body, and encounter toxins and pathogens that cancel the charge (a bit like antioxidants lose their healing charge when they meet free radicals). Anyway, the book is way too complicate to explain all about it here, but if he's right, I suppose celery alone would be the medicine number one of EHS people. But as he's just a medium, not a doctor, most people won't give him ears. I particularly think his advice helped more than any one I ever read. It just looks a bit too crazy at first... |
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When I say trying to heal again I mean the EMF sensitivity (though I still need to heal my PTSD/anxiety/etc… that was the purpose of the neurofeedback at the time) The really odd thing too though is when I tried to heal the traumas it didn’t actually fully work and yet it caused the EMF sensitivity to go away which confuses me even more. I was using a variant on the emotional freedom technique called FasterEFT and just trying to process all bad/trauma memories. My mind closes off emotions to memories most of the time when I purposely go to them and never really fully removes the emotions off of them or changes them into empowering memories like it is supposed to, but since my EMF sensitivity was decreasing as I did this daily for a long time I didn’t care at the time. But it never helped at all with my anxieties and other emotional issues again pointing to it not fully working! So I may try better trauma healing as part of what I continue with as a learned a lot more since then, for instance EMDR causes me to fully recall my emotions to memories such that I might be able to fully process them, back then it didn’t work at all, but it does work for some reason now! I tried EMDR on some of the memories I thought I had processed with FasterEFT and I clearly have access to all the pain attached to them still!
Thanks for the in depth explanation I understand that too, part of why I went so strongly down the trauma route was I experienced so much of it that I intuitively felt it must play a key role. Do you have any source like books, or articles on the dream body I never heard this as a part of the self in relation to healing. I know that when I have nightmares that I can interpret them to learn things about myself, but not much more than that? What’s the easiest way to figure out about food allergies, all the things I ever did in the past around that never seemed to help and I don’t ever noticeably have symptoms that are tied to what I eat at least in a way that I am aware of which would then give me an easy path to target if I did? My IBS is very clearly tied to my emotional states, I was able actually for the first time to figure out how to meditate and use my awareness in a way that made the gut pain completely go away until I got stressed out again about something and then it came back. I’ve tried other styles of meditation previously and they never had that drastic of an effect, so will continue to use this. |
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RE: JUICING CELERY: Curious: How many "bunches" (aka "bundles" aka "clusters" aka "stalks" aka "heads") of celery does it take to produce 1-day's worth of juicing 6-8 glasses? (It must take a LOT, & then x that by 7 days for 1 week's worth!) Definition from a web search of what is the correct term for a "bunch" of celery: "A rib is each stick of celery that comes off the cluster called a stalk (the bundle as it comes from the produce section). A stalk and a bunch are the same thing."
I just came to finish a book of Anthony William, the Celery book.
I know he' s 'just' a medium, but a lot of what I'm doing diet-wise is helping me a lot. I realize that , if he is right, celery juice ALONE could incredibly help cure EHS, if taken on a certain amount, daily (if I still had EHS, I would try to reach 4 glasses a day, even 6 or 8 if necessary). He says that celery is an herb, and that extracting the juice is a medicinal procedure. The juice is not food, it's medicine. The juice is full of sodium cluster salts bounded with LOADS of minerals, that got a certain ionic charge (that's how I interpret the book). These salts cancel the charge of heavy metals, viruses, and constitute the best electrolyte solution you can find on planet earth (much better than coconut water or anything expensive you may buy). He says that. And that these salts work like a disinfectant, and kill some bacteria and virus, plus it has enzymes that break biofilm (the protective mucus in the gut or all over the body, where bacteria and viruses hide behind). He also says that the salts can rebuild the totality of hydrochloric acid in the stomach, fortifying it, so that it will become strong enough to kill bacteria and digest protein better. It's undigested protein going to the gut that feeds the unproductive bacteria, due to weak HCl in the stomach (and due to high toxic load we all have, pesticides, etc), and then it causes a series of problems there. The same salts from celery are a complete package of electrolytes that will feed neurotransmitters. So yes, this simple celery juice can rebuild neurotransmitters that got undernourished by toxins, pathogens, poor nutrition... He says that hypersensitivity of nerves come from these faulty signals in the neurons, due to heavy metals or due to other toxins, or to lack of electrolytes. It seems that celery JUICE is all the package in one! You just need to take it in certain amount, as the charge of the salts get canceled as it travels in the body, and encounter toxins and pathogens that cancel the charge (a bit like antioxidants lose their healing charge when they meet free radicals). Anyway, the book is way too complicate to explain all about it here, but if he's right, I suppose celery alone would be the medicine number one of EHS people. But as he's just a medium, not a doctor, most people won't give him ears. I particularly think his advice helped more than any one I ever read. It just looks a bit too crazy at first... If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
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I tried celery Juice, but for me it makes things worse,
too much sugars or something: causes crawling under my skin, etc. I'm riddled with bugs and/or allergic to everything, idk. I'm trying to figure out what to do. For other people celery juice might do something positive though. |
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Oh... I see. Maybe you actually healed part of the trauma, I suspect?
I mean, if your EMR sensitivities went away with EFT, it means a lot to me, at least. You know, healing path in the India pyramid is not linear. The deeper in the spirit /psyche you go, the more it branches out to consequences / symptoms. So in my view, your traumas were not fully healed but if they helped lowering EMF sensitivities, it means a partial healing... Just my guess!! EMDR is amazing, I agree. It creates one of the most profound experiences in people. Every time I get a healing that goes deeper in the soul, I do feel we know so little about what we actually are, how deep our breathing, eye movements, sounds, heart beats, hormones flowing in our veins actually truly do to us... But as I also said, I think great part of EHS problem is physical and electromagnetic, and therefore, it must ALSO be treated in these lower bodies, not only on higher ethereal bodies. We wouldn't have that problem if we were not constantly bombarded with EMFs... Of course, super yogis or people with some supernatural abilities may heal practically everything using their less physical bodies, but for 99.99% of common mortals, we need physical support (diet, massages, supplements etc) and electric support (like earthing, high voltage, acupuncture, homeopathy, etc), besides the mental /psycho support. Do a google search on The Five Levels of Healing, under dr Klinghardt. You'll find a lot of videos, I think. Few practitioners 'treat' the dream body, it's more the domain of shamans... Food allergies? The easiest path, in my opinion, after about my whole life suffering (as I had 'lactose intolerance' since my early childhood), is to avoid ALL main allergens at once and see for yourself. that's what I did to my baby: she had full body eczema, and I cut ALL foods and reintroduced one by one, on a rate one every week or every 2 weeks. for us is hard, as we are adults and stubborn ! But what dr RAu from Paracelsus does, he recommends to avoid this list: chicken eggs, cow dairy, gluten, GMOs, corn, soy, nuts (chocolate counts as nuts, I suppose?) This covers 80% of most common allergies. He then recommends maximum 40-60 grams of lean protein a day and only good oils. Then you add everything you usually react to to this list (I reacted to ALMOST ALL FRUITS!!), so I had to start with one or two fruits only, plus the list above... Anthony William has a very similar list as dr Rau: all eggs, all dairy, gluten, GMOS, corn (even organic), soy (even organic), and everything you react badly (individual). On top, Anthony recommends low protein (animal or vegetble) and very low oil (even good oils, seeds, etc). Cut pork and lamb, too oily, he said. They bog the liver. |
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Dr Rau recommends very low protein (prefer vegetable protein, but also in moderation), very low oils (even healthy ones)
He uses Sanum and Werthmann research (Werthmann also said pork should be avoided as it makes pathogens grow, exactly like eggs and dairy, as he could see the bad developments in the blood through the darkfield microscope already in the 1960s!!). Dr Klinghardt does an allergy test with all patients (I followed his treatments) in the FIRST day of consultation, and believe me, the list of foods to avoid if you are very sick is huge (individually tailored). Gluten is high on his list too. The problem with allergy elimination is that if you keep eating ONE food that causes gut allergy, you can cut all others and you'll feel NO IMPROVEMENT!! That's the tricky part. That's why it's better to lower the number of items you consume or to cut ALL main allergens at once, or you'll never know... While dr Rau and dr Klinghardt say these foods trigger allergic reactions causing inflammation all over the body (not only in the gut), Anthony says almost these exact 'allergenic' foods in fact FEED pathogens, that cause chronic inflammation. I find it amazing how German biological medicine (Rau / Klinghardt/ Werthmann /Enderlein) had practically the same bad food list as the medical medium! They all say these foods cause inflammation. Rau and Klinghardt mention allergies as cause of inflammation, while Werthmann and Enderlein clearly show that the blood of patients develop pathogens the more pork, eggs, dairy they eat as they can see that in the darkfield microscope!!! And this was very long ago (after the first world war in case of Enderlein, and in the 60s-70s for Werthmann!!) Anthony says these foods feed pathogens in the last 100 years! Before, these foods were not feeding pathogens, if I understood well. It all started with the advent of industrial toxins coming inside our bodies. Wertmann started recommending avoidance of eggs, dairy and pork since the 1960s! He based his findings in the work of Enderlein too, who already said in 1937 that the origin of cancer was a of a bacterial-fungal infection!! Almost 80 years after, come Anthony William who says 99% of cancers are viral in origin. It's pretty impressive, I find!! As I had all these background of knowledge of German biological medicine (as I love homeopathy), Anthony's findings do not look too crazy. I never wanted to stop milk completely, because dr Rau said goat milk was fine... And I liked goat cheese!! It came down that stopping eggs and milk did resolve my problems. I think I gotta write a book about these parallels between German biological medicine and research and Anthony. It's so amazingly a 'coincidence'!!! |
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How many bunches of celery? I started with some stalks, about 1/2 glass, then climbed to 1 glass.
Now I'm on 2 glasses- it takes about 1 bunch for that. Sometimes the celery is green and drier, and you get less than 2 glasses. Rule of thumb: try to reach at least 1 bunch (2 glasses ) per day. If the bunch is too dry, no worry. Anthony says it's got more chlorophyll that is also healing, so it could compensate for the less liquid. after reading the celery book, I understood why we need AT LEAST one bunch / about 2 glasses per day. It's because the salts work as antioxidants and keep canceling trouble-makers (heavy metals, pathogens, mucous, rancid fats, pesticides etc) along the way. Celery juice salts have an ionic charge that stick to both nerves and heavy metals and pesticides, etc. that's why they'll substitute these trouble makers from the nerves by sticking to their places, while cancelling their electric charge. The more trouble makers you have, the more celery juice gets canceled inside the gut, liver, so it has less of its healing power when it reaches the large intestine, when it finally will be taken in the blood to flow to your brain and nerves for healing EHS. He says one can take up to 80 oz a day, maximum. For people would like to have a faster healing, work up to 4 glasses a day (example, 2 in the AM, 2 in the PM), but it can be a rough path... It's the best electrolyte solution available in the planet, he says. And it's THE only medicine that contains ALL chemical compounds to rebuild your neurotransmitters. Nothing else on the planet has all chemicals for that. You usually need to gather these chemicals from various sources to rebuild completely your neurotransmitters. Well, that's why he recommends celery as his tactics number 1. Plus its enzymes break down mucous all over the body, making pathogens exposed to its killing antimicrobial salts. You can have a very bad reaction to celery, i swear. If you would like to see the biofilm-breaking effect, just pour 1 drop in your nose and see for yourself!! At least, in my case, it was a huge surprise, I couldn't breathe for 3 hours as the whole nose filled in with mucous after about 5 drops in each nostril. Before the celery nose drop experiment, my nose was totally open, no colds nothing. So it did have dry mucous inside, that the celery liberated. It was an awful experience, as it blocked my airways for 3 hours, so if you'd like to try, start just with one drop on ONE nostril, not both!! |
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I have two eggs left . After thjat I try and say goodbye to my beloved eggs. Maybe I can replace with something - though I don't kinow what. Jinna, that is so interesting. I think these coincidences are showing you are hitting on something important. Viral in origin, bacteria etc . We in the West are plagued by thinking of these things as foregin enemies that must be destroyed. They are part of the earth. Also in Aryuvedic medecine seen as parts of entities, or demons on another level. All valid _ I would think. We got these ideas that we humans are terribly important. But our bodies are part of earth. And treating some things as nedding to be exterminated does not work. We can instead - not feed them - that does work, it seems. We can make it so they do not like to share our space .. Like playing Bach to a heavy metal crack addict - they probably go away. Internal answers, answers connected to who we are, as personality and spirt, and connected to our connection to the web of life. Obviously I have a lot of Bach I need to play - and eschew and not chew my eggs. Retreating- walling off-chemical-killing-exterminating-catastrophising-does not appear to help> A good walk in the mountains maybe does more than many walled off experts are prepared to credit or allow. Stronger connection to the web of life - not weaker - as is normal in allopathic medecine On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jinna [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: Dr Rau recommends very low protein (prefer vegetable protein, but also in moderation), very low oils (even healthy ones) |
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Anthony says these foods feed pathogens in the last 100 years! Before, these foods were not feeding pathogens, if I understood well. It all started with the advent of industrial toxins coming inside our bodies. That is interesting too.This ties in srtongly with what Hulds Clarke says . She says pathogens are involved in most illnesses, and chemical open the window to them to come in .....the same message. we are all being punished (if you like) for accepting into our hearts and minds and lives a scientific view of the world that has been profoundly materialistic - really, contemptuous to life.We should have listened to William Blake. But of course we don't even understand him. - and goethe..... On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:04 PM robert [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Robert, I also loved eggs.
The last one I ate was in November last year, together with my beloved butter!!! In fact, it was not as hard to stop them as I thought. The hardest part was what to eat in the morning instead? So I decided to eat more fruits (slowly), until I realized I had no more fruit allergy! I bought some other things to put on my rice crackers, such as honey, some cashew butter (as cashew aren't technically nuts and I never reacted badly to them)... Cashew butter is delicious. I liked your comparison of playing Bach to drug addicts and avoiding to feed our pathogens. It's a kind of a gentle way to say goodbye to them, I agree. Celery is less gentle though, as it literally kills them. Now that I don't eat any of these foods, I actually find it's rather easy to avoid them. It took me months to get the feeling I was truly being fed by fruits. A bogged liver was so bad, my cells I suspect now, were partially insulin resistant due to high oily high protein diets (Anthony also says high oil + high protein is what causes insulin resistance, not glucose), so I always felt fruits were just snacks, that never truly fed me. Now I swear I feast on fruits. I can eat half a melon without problem in one go, and that alone feels super nutritious, specially to the brain... Or the whole recipe of his Heavy Metal Detox Smoothie, which is basically 2 cups blueberries + 2 bananas + I put 2 oranges, it makes me full for hours. At start, I could barely eat one small cup of it, now I can take about 2, 3 cups and I can still take more, if I allow myself... The hunger pattern and satisfaction from food changes with healing. Anxiety too. Potatoes became more allies too, instead of bread. I needed dense squash + potato + sweet potato soups early morning to get going during the transition. Now, I just eat them normally, not like crazily craving them to survive my mornings. Now that I bought my juicer, when I take a whole pomegranate juice, it's like my whole soul is smiling, thanking each of the drops that fall in my throat. It's truly a feast. Never I had that immense pleasure with eggs or cheese. I do think that the pleasure I had with eggs and cheese /yogurts are very close to addictive pleasure, somehow. Maybe because these are acid foods and they react almost opposite as with these antioxidative foods? I saw a small video of a baby eating the smoothie above (with blueberries / banana), and you got to see how he reacts, he smiles and his whole body thanks those flavors in his mouth! It's super cute. I thought about my pomegranate juice or acai juice experience when I saw the baby eating that! |
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"We should have listened to William Blake. But of course
we don't even understand him. - and goethe...."  Yes, finally, some doctors / practitioners are coming to similar conclusions! Look at the rivers with chemical pollution! They teem with bacterial life, but not the sort that supports higher multicelllular life (such as higher plants, frogs, fish, ducks, humans....). the 'poor' bacteria just develop / evolve in these chemical sludge rivers to try to clean the mess we tossed there. Same as in us: the poor candida, all the viruses, bacteria are initially our friends, trying to decompose the toxic matter off the body, but in the meantime, they decompose the whole of us (multicellular beings) into smaller units (decaying diseased body that will eventually die earlier)... our chronic disease is a sort of by product of their 'help', as they can't do better than try to decompose us as they decompose and try to disarm toxins. It's no wonder that rivers with toxic sludge have no multicellular or high developed life on and in them. They only get unicellular life, they go back to the drawing board of evolution instead of supporting complex life. Dr. Klinghardt has been talking about that, and the role of pathogens and how our planet is going in the direction where only smaller less complex beings will survive... We're fighting to keep ourselves in one piece. What else is inflammation, whole body inflammation than decomposition of tissue into smaller units? It's no wonder that cancer is super acid and super toxic. Dr Rau says that one cancer cell had about 600 x more heavy metals or so than adjacent healthy cells in the same breast!! |
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Re: CELERY JUICING Thank you, Jinna, for the "recipe" re how much celery juice a bundle of celery creates (2 cups per bundle) & how often/how much to consume daily. So for a 2-week supply, for starters, it would take 14-bunches/bundles. Thanks also for the fascinating attributes of "common" celery. Who knew?! :) I always liked its crunchiness but had no idea re its Electrolytes nor its Transmitter-healing effects. All I knew about celery was that it is considered a "neutral" (ditto the lettuces) for "Food Combining" purposes, ie, that it can be eaten/combined with any category of foods, Proteins, Starches, & Fruits (Sweet fruits, Sub-Acid fruits, Acidic fruits), etc. To combat "dry" celery, a trick I learned ages ago is to store it in the frig "standing up" in a container (pitcher or other "tall" container) filled with, at least, 1/3 "good"-water in the bottom. Then I put a plastic bag loosely over the top of container to keep the moisture "inside." (Hopefully the stored-in-water celery will not dilute/lose the celery's benefits?) That is a hoot (funny!) re the celery-juice "nose drops," lol! Great idea but good to know re the detox reaction/stuffed-up nose for hours! I wonder what celery-juice "drops" could do for eyes? I wonder if it could dissolve cataracts! (I read "castor oil" drops can, over time, but have not tried that yet). I have the famed 1-eye-only-MWR-induced cataract (total 100% thick-blur) plus "screen blindness" & "white haze" in both eyes (cannot see anything on white backgrounds online or even print on white paper; can only see if it's black backgrounds w/white text). /ED
How many bunches of celery? I started with some stalks, about 1/2 cup, then climbed to 1 cup.
Now I'm on 2 cups - it takes about 1 bunch for that. Sometimes the celery is green and drier, and you get less than 2 glasses. Rule of thumb: try to reach at least 1 bunch (2 glasses) per day. If the bunch is too dry, no worry. Anthony says it's got more chlorophyll that is also healing, so it could compensate for the less liquid. after reading the celery book, I understand why we need AT LEAST one bunch / 2 glasses per day. It's because the salts work as antioxidants and keep cancel trouble makers (heavy metals, pathogens, mucous, rancid fats, pesticides etc) along the way. The more trouble makers you have, the more it gets canceled inside the gut, liver, so it has less of its healing power when it reaches the large intestine, when it finally will be taken in the blood to flow to your brain and nerves for healing EHS. He says one can take up to 80 oz a day, maximum. For people would like to have a faster healing, work up to 4 glasses a day (example, 2 in the AM, 2 in the PM), but it can be a rough path... It's the best electrolyte solution available in the planet, he says. And it's THE only medicine that contains ALL chemical compounds to rebuild your neurotransmitters. Nothing else on the planet has all chemicals for that. Plus its enzymes break down mucous all over the body, making pathogens exposed to its killing antimicrobial salts. You can have a very bad reaction to celery, i swear. If you would like to see the biofilm-breaking effect, just pour 1 drop in your nose and see for yourself!! At least, in my case, it was a huge surprise, I couldn't breathe for 3 hours as the whole nose filled in with mucous after about 5 drops in each nostril. Before the celery nose drop experiment, my nose was totally open, no colds nothing. So it did have dry mucous inside, that the celery liberated. It was an awful experience, as it blocked my airways for 3 hours, so if you'd like to try, start just with one drop on ONE nostril, not both!! If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
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Yes, let's say 14 bundles for a week per person is the medicinal amount he recommends to an average person. But if you are as sick as most of us, start with HALF A GLASS, then climb up slow.
Going directly 2 glasses / day may make you regret (diarrhea etc). Do not dilute in water, take it empty stomach, wait min 15 min (ideal 30 min) before and after celery to eat / drink other things. Yes, no problem to keep it in plastic (even though I hate plastics...), but it does keep it longer in the refrigerator. Or put them in the drawers, it also helps a bit. I don't know if you can put drops in your eyes... I did not... It actually burns the mucosa, I mean, my nostrils just the first days. Now it feels like water, it does nothing to the mucosa, no burning, no itching sensation. The celery drops are treating my inner ear canals, for sure... I know people go for surgery (cataracts...). |
Re: Some insight from someone who completely healed once only to get EMF sensnitive again
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On June 9, Jinna [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The celery drops are treating my inner ear canals, for sure... Jinna, could you elaborate on this? Are you putting celery juice in your ears? And what improvements in your ears are you noticing? Thanks, Marc |
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Marc, this is just my experiment.
Do you know about the Indian neti pot, where they clean their nose with salty water? It's an old yogi technique to clean the sinuses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UixdsD1lJNY Well, instead of using like the neti pot, I simply drop a few drops in my sinuses. You may use a neti pot with your celery juice, but I find it a pity to lose all of the celery down the drain... So I use it like the Russians do with babies with stuck nose: they drip beet juice inside their baby nostrils. Due to enzymes, the beet juice opens the sinuses. I read in the new Celery book of Anthony that celery is a potent bio-film / mucus breaker, so I just had the idea to put some drops there. I don't recommend anyone to start with both nostrils, JUST ONE at a time. And just pour one drop, wait 5 minutes, you'll see how you react. If nothing, put 2 drops, wait more 5-10 minutes. The reaction is PRETTY FAST. Even if you think you have clear sinuses, like I thought mine were, in fact, there is a lot of dry mucus there - when the celery drops reach them, they make the dry mucus into a VERY THICK mucus at first, that BLOCK AIRWAYS, so you can't breathe TEMPORARILY through that nostril. The mucus is SO THICK, I couldn't blow it. I spent 3 hours with both airways blocked, could not eat, could not drink (or barely). Blocking both nostrils like I did is not comfy, so really, don't do it. I would start with ONE DROP on one nostril, wait 10 minutes and you'll see. It takes seconds to MINUTES for celery to start working (biofilm breaking effect / loosening mucus). Well, 1st day, it was awful due to those blocked airways. And I only used 5 drops of celery juice in each nostril in the morning. In the end of the day, I decided to put more 5 drops on one nostril, and the mucus came out less thick. But I crashed badly again - meaning, it caused me a DIE OFF reaction, and I felt like hit by a truck, I had to sit down and even sleep for 2 hours early evening (after having lost my whole morning). The celery drops in the nostrils made my mucosa become red, and I felt every cm where it passed BEHIND in the throat, down to the stomach. It burned the back of my throat. I went to the book to see what it could be: Anthony says that if you swish your mouth with celery and you feel it burns (I did feel that), it means it's cleaning either the ammonia there in the mouth (that sipped through the body from the small intestine) OR it's simply killing bacteria and viruses by contact (the salt in celery is extremely antimicrobial, like a disinfectant and kills immediately by contact, like it wipes out any bacteria). I did feel like celery felt like pepper in my mouth initially, and so it did the same in my nose and back of throat - I suspect it killed pathogens by contact or cleared ammonia from the mucosa. In anyway, after day 3, celery felt like water: it burns ZERO, now it does feel like water. But the first day, it burned a bit everywhere (a bit like sea water burns on the skin or eyes). Nothing drastic, but uncomfortable. Now my nostrils don't even get red. Celery feels like water in the nose, mouth, throat. But 1st day, even my eyes got red, as though i was crying. ------------------------------------------------ Day 2- I put directly 10 drops on both nostrils (again, not recommending that no anyone, start slow and only on one nostril), and Gosh, my right ear made a sound like sand inside, and started itching LIKE HELL. It was impossible to do anything else, because of the awful itch. This is in a few minutes after the 1st 10 drops on day 2. The next hours, I spent also on a crash, this time, because it activated something in my right ear... I suspect that the sand noise it did was like some biofilms / mucus came out, and it exposed the pathogens in the ear canal. It got truly itching like I don't remember ever having that as a symptom. Maybe I got some ear pain during childhood, but that was more than 40 years ago. It was so maddening that I decided to pour 2 drops there in the ear canal. I don't think it helped either, as the itchiness came from VERY DEEP INSIDE and could only be reached through the nose. so I spent the whole morning dripping celery juice through the right nostril to stop that awful ear feeling. the next hours, I got pain in the trigeminal nerve or in the upper or lower molars, or in the ear, or in the jaws, or on my face, I can't tell where the pain was coming. Not a strong pain, but a quite bothersome dull pain that made me lose about 2 hours of that day. The left sinus, that I THOUGHT I had the biggest problem just reacted minimally, while the right side was the main spot of problems (due to this ear reactivating infections). Once you expose pathogens, they get attacked by celery juice and by my own immune system, they never die without a fight, so the ear infection 'reactivates' (fortunately, only for a few hours). It went dormant very fast in that same Day 2. After day 2, I noticed my shoulders were totally relaxed. It was a funny feeling, as I was not treating it. My neck was loosened, very mobile, soft, it felt wonderful. -------------------------------------------------------------- Day 3 was spent without any pain, just a feeling my sinuses are healing, the ear pain was almost zero. Day 4 I took the heavy metal detox smoothie and made a pause in celery. Surprise: after about a year on this smoothie, I barely react to it. But I literally crashed with that on Day 4. What the heck? I thought?!? All my joints got in pain, nerves etc. It's like the sinus healing took out a burden from my body. A big burden, and suddenly, my whole body reacted (like the loosening of the neck, then all joints liberating heavy metals for this smoothie). It was a huge detox reaction that Day 4. Day 5. back to celery nose drop + ingestion. Barely any reaction, just feeling it's treating my sinuses. Sometime in this day, I felt my left ear itching / pinching. I ¨'knew' the juice reached it (from the left nostril). Now I can almost drink celery juice from the nose. I put 40 drops a day on each nostril, and it feels as mild as water, just that my sinuses keep feeling good, like healing, so I'm continuing this experiment. I took the heavy metal smoothie again, and got back to my normal reactions = no apparent reaction, so now life is back to normal (with less sinus + ear problems). Well, I thought I did not have ear problems, but it happened that I had.... |
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A lady veterinarian said she's treating her dog with the celery drops.
It's been 4 years the dog has sinus problems after he licked the cancer of another dog (to help healing). She tried everything, no success. Not even silver drops helped her dog. So she decided to put the celery drops 2x day, and in 2 HOURS, the dog developed gunk in the ears. The vet said this dog rarely gets any ear problems, and she was astonished to see how the dog was scratching the ear. When she looked, she found the ear gunk. She posted a photo of the dog, and his nose was full of mucus coming out! She also posted a photo of a cat that got a severe skin infection, hard to heal, and she's putting celery drops there too. She said she can see how fast the wound is healing. She gives both the dog and cat celery through the mouth too (through a syringe, if I understood well). I know nose / sinus / ear canals / throat are all connected... Same in dogs and cats, it seems.... |
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Re: Celery Juicing Thanks again, Jinna! __14 bunches it is (per week/1-person=2 glasses x day) but start slow @ 1/2 a glass: __Do not dilute w/water. __Drink on empty stomach. __Wait 15-30mins. thereafter before intaking anything else. When I remembered you saying celery contains "salts," I decided "salts" (even naturally-in-food "salts") would NOT be a good idea as "eye drops." So, no, I won't be doing that. 8-) Fascinating story you shared w/Marc re celery-juice-ear-drops, then a sand-sound in ear canal, then it went away, etc. __Off-Topic but I'm now wondering if celery-juice-ear-drops would help any of the many people tormented by the so-called (LFN droning rumbling) "WORLD HUM": __Others say it is a "pure tone" (?) & is illegal: __I say, here, the noise likely comes from underground infrastructure saturated w/microwaves via "Smart" in-ground-Water Meters), but all this is a whole 'nother subject for another day. Back to celery storage: Agree plastics are not the best but I have two hard-plastic "tall pitchers" (hard plastics suposedly not as likely to leech, especially if kept in cold/frig vs. "heated soft plastics"). __I can fit 3 bunches of celery standing-up-on-end in each of 2 tall-hard-plastic-pitchers for cold-frig-storage of 6 bunches total; add some water in bottom of the pitchers keeps the celery from drying out too soon. Other veggies such as romaine lettuce or cauliflower or broccoli, etc., after washing/cutting, I wrap-up in "Flour Sack Towels" (purchased via SamsClub). Love those things! They are white very-thin cotton. __Didn't think of it until now but I suppose I could wrap the celery-in-water-pitchers in flour-sack-towels as well vs. putting a plastic-bag over the tops of the pitchers. __(The celery standing-upright is a bit taller than the pitchers, so they stick out the tops, which is why I originally covered the tops w/ plastic bags.) Thanks again & very happy for your great progress health-wise! /ED
Yes, let's say 14 bundles for a week per person is the medicinal amount he recommends to an average person. But if you are as sick as most of us, start with HALF A GLASS, then climb up slow.
Going directly 2 glasses / day may make you regret (diarrhea etc). Do not dilute in water, take it empty stomach, wait min 15 min (ideal 30 min) before and after celery to eat / drink other things. Yes, no problem to keep it in plastic (even though I hate plastics...), but it does keep it longer in the refrigerator. Or put them in the drawers, it also helps a bit. I don't know if you can put drops in your eyes... I did not... It actually burns the mucosa, I mean, my nostrils just the first days. Now it feels like water, it does nothing to the mucosa, no burning, no itching sensation. The celery drops are treating my inner ear canals, for sure... I know people go for surgery (cataracts...). If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
http://es-forum.com/Some-insight-from-someone-who-completely-healed-once-only-to-get-EMF-sensnitive-again-tp4034158p4034184.html
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