So glad I found this forum

Hi, I'm new to the forum, but not new electrosensitive...

I mean, I know I have the problem for at least 12 years, when a naturopath told me.

Then I have followed most of what dr. Klinghardt has been doing (because I treat myself following his ART techniques), and discovered that ES sensitivity could explain a lot of what was happening to me.

I'm glad I found you guys, because it does feel lonely, to be seen as insane daily.

I can now tolerate this computer (only tolerate) because I found a quantum pendant to help me, with Schumann resonances and other information inside.

I also got a T-shirt infused with the same resonances, and it also feels good (I just lay it on my back, and my kidneys do not get in pain)...

I've been trying to get rid of heavy metals for about 12 years too, but my problem is that my inner 'computer' that regulates homeostasis (CNS, ANS...) has defects, and I can't take many added minerals without collapsing, literally.

I do think E-smog has something to do with that (as it affects my ANS for sure), and my body sees healing substances like zinc as poison. I've been trying to take zinc in different forms, but I feel like I'm taking arsenic and had to stop.

In the last 2 weeks, I think I found out a way to take it, but I'm still crossing my fingers...

I still cannot sleep in the main and most beautiful bedroom of the house, with views to the Alps, but have to hide myself in a dark bedroom in the back, otherwise I get nightmares and simply fall ill after 2, 3 days..

I wonder how long can I go on like that...

I'm fighting active fungal infections for about 30 years. It got worse since the advent of cell phones in the 90s.

 I know by dr. Klinghardt, that fungi will produce 600 more neurotoxins when in presence of normal room EMR, present in a house or office, than when in a Faraday cage. The experiment was done here in Switzerland, many years ago.

Today it would be much more. I fight then chronic fungal infections that come every year for about 20 years. I did not know about the relation between that and EMRs.

AT a certain point, I got lyme disease (due to immune weakness) and that almost literally killed me.

The good thing was that the naturopath told me I was sleeping in a bad bedroom. My bed is of a metallic structure, and the bedroom faces a couple of towns, which are downhill. So we get all cell phone antennas directly on our southern facade.

So I decided to move out of the bed, out of that bedroom and sleep hidden at the northern facade.

I can then sleep much better, specially because I've been turning the house circuit breaker every night for more than 10 years...

I just have one immediate neighbor, which is good. But my husband does not believe on electrosensitivity, so it's harder to do major changes in the house without creating relationship problems...

Well, my daughter is 13, very thin, and very sensitive.
 She has same symptoms as mine, and probably, she's even more sensitive than me.

But I guess, many children are sensitive, but they do not know.

Not long ago, I developed a phobia against my own cell phone. I only use it sporadically, not a smart phone, just when I really needed it.

Then I found a sort of quantum sticker, sticked to it, and slowly, lost the phobia. I even forget it on sometimes, which never happened before (as the fact that it was on, not far from my body, made my brain feel crazy).

My next plan is to try to see if I can sleep again in the bad bedroom. And also, to prepare our eventual moving out.

We still live in a good place, because we have practically no neighbors (countryside). But it won't be like that forever, so I got to find out solutions in case we move.

Sorry for long and complicated story.

I guess I do feel I'm a stranger to most people and it's so nice to be able to talk about what I think on this subject.

I had been to Brazil not long ago, and it struck me to feel so different than here in Europe.
I was mostly on the beach side, less cell phones, no computers, empty houses around, blue sky, grounded with naked feet on the ground, near a natural reserve...

Even if people still had smart phones outside, it felt like total freedom. It's SUCH a good feeling to know that still exists.

The moment I leave the airplane back to Switzerland, even if it's sunny, beautiful, green, clean, aseptic even, the inner picture I see /feel is like smoggy, cloudy, like grey clouds cover the whole continent.

that is how I felt coming back here: what I see visually is not what I feel, innerly.
It's a total contrast.

Whatever, I'm glad I found you all!

That's the thing unless you get away you don't know the the damage it's doing to you, I was able to once and felt so free physically and mentally. I also found that sleeping in a bed with metal in it, especially springs is not a good idea. I'm now a floor sleeper and once you get used to it, it's so much easier. My computer tower is below my body, the case it's in on the front door piece surprisingly has very good protection I found (it's a corsair carbide something model but whatever material it's made out of is very good shielding. just wish I knew exactly what it is but I can't find any info).

Somethings I can't even do because of this like be around any ordinary microphones or electronic instruments like electric guitars and amps. If I go to say a concert I'm gambling with my health even if I'm far away from the stage, everyone also still has a million smart phones around me too in public places. I still want to do things with myself regarding music, streaming, and using microphones but I haven't found any way to yet and it's a huge creative blockage for me. Today I found that the PS4 camera though works as a microphone and I don't have to put anything near my head so I'm going to try that out and report back to see if my body can handle it.

Hey, I also sleep on the wooden floor!!!

I did not understand the story about your computer below your body?
Well, mine is under this table, in an aluminium case...

Are you a musician?
I also play the piano just as a hobby.
I still have an electric piano, but I now mostly play acoustic.

I still can play the electric one, but not for too long...

I do feel that this ES problem is cumulative, somehow. Like X-rays or gamma radiation.

I think that English ex-secret service expert said something like that, if I remember well.
The more you are exposed, the more you may get problems....

I recently found a quantum infused pendant that helps my ANS to calm down, infused with Schumman resonances. I can stay here in front of a screen without many symptoms (like kidney pain, anxiety, cold hands and feet... stuff like that).


I got to take the task of cleaning my body of heavy metals more seriously...
It's been way too long with ES...

I think I got better during the last 5 years... But the increase of cell towers and more smart phones around is not helping. I'm glad I found this Schumann pendant, I can't live without it, since the first time I got it.

I have recently watched a lecture of a naturopathic doctor who treats autism and ADHD.
They swear that one type of ionic foot bath make some of these kids get better in a matter of months.

I do think autistic kids and ADHD kids are mostly ES: they get hyper when playing in wifi or with their smart phones, i-pads etc, they can't sleep, can't relax, are aggressive on and off, etc...

All ES symptoms. If they get better by detoxing their skins, well why can't we?
I mean, I'm just hoping stuff like that could help us!!! :)

Jinna wrote

My bed is of a metallic structure, and the bedroom faces a couple of towns, which are downhill. So we get all cell phone antennas directly on our southern facade.

Here in the busy city, everywhere I go that is higher up I start to feel worse very quickly.  I thought maybe I'm imagining it but it happened over and over on different higher grounds.  It makes sense, because from there if I had a telescope I'd be able to view tens if not even a hundred cell towers in the distance.  The signal travels up to 10km, so up there you're getting thousands of mixed data streams.  
My conclusion has been that the more data is in the air the worse the problem gets.  Each 1 or 0 bit is part of a pulse, so more data means more pulsing.  The effects are caused by the pulses, so more pulses equal to more effects.

thanks for sharing that info...

I once read, years ago, that statistics showed that people living on high grounds (such as flats) have lower life expectancy than people living on the ground (houses).

Researchers thought the reason was simply: richer people live in houses so they live longer than poorer high building inhabitants.

Well, some people in Germany think that we need to be in close contact to the ground to get those good grounding effects. REcently they also mentioned that lower floor inhabitants get blocked signals from cell phone towers, while higher ground inhabitants get the signals without blockades.

I can see the cell phone towers from my living room, and bedroom (same south facade).

 Funnily, the living room feels much better (low ground). I guess it gets a bit less radiation than the upper bedroom. I can fall asleep in the living room, but in my bedroom (that I don't use anymore), if I fall asleep, I will wake up several times, or have nightmares.

When I go in the cellar, I feel great. It' such a 'silence'. Not the external silence, but internal silence.
It's also to the south, but half buried underground.

I do feel that silence inside my head when I'm in the cellar, even with some mold, humidity...
If I build a house for me, I would dump my bedroom inside the earth...
Even that mold does not cause me allergies!

I lived on the 6h floor in South Korea in 2009, then moved to the 10th floor in 2010.
I had covered the walls with alu foil, and alu nets (windows) so that I could sleep a bit better....

I hate buildings for that reason. But now, even in a house, because it's build high up (with breathtaking views to the Alps), it FEELS much less romantic with all those cell towers downhill...

On September 29, "Jinna [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I have recently watched a lecture of a naturopathic doctor who treats autism
> and ADHD.  They swear that one type of ionic foot bath make some of these kids get
> better in a matter of months.

Yes, the ionic footbaths do have the potential to make rapid improvements, however they also can backfire quite badly, if your body cannot handle the detox it provokes.  I know that after making several years of good progress, I tried an ionic footbath for a few sessions and lost a lot of that progress, and then had to spend thousands of dollars to get my health back to where it was before the ionic footbaths!

So I find the ionic footbaths too dangerous to recommend, but I hear when they work, they work great!

Marc

On September 28, "Jinna [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi, I'm new to the forum, but not new electrosensitive...

Welcome to the group!

> I also got a T-shirt infused with the same resonances, and it also feels
> good (I just lay it on my back, and my kidneys do not get in pain)...
>
> Then I found a sort of quantum sticker, sticked to it, and slowly, lost the
> phobia.

I've heard of the Quantum Pendant, but I have not heard of T-Shirt and sticker from the same company.  Did you get those online?  If so, do you have a link?

Marc

Marc, thanks for the tip on ionic foot bath...

I know that I react strangely to things that are supposedly healthy, that's why I'm wary to try new techniques...

As for the quantum sticker, pendant and the T-shirt, they come from the same Vital Force Tech.

they can infuse anything for you with any of their recorded blueprints.

I'm thinking to send them a hat for them to infuse with the same Schumann resonances...

http://vitalforcetechnology.com/how-it-works

I meant it's below where I sit on a tile floor piece, the chair I sit on is pretty high. And I would if I could handle it, I also play the frame drum but with no decent way to record clean high quality audio I can't do much. I tried twice with an electric guitar and I only ended up hurting myself each time and sadly had to give it up. So I'm musically on hold with more ideas in my head than I know what to do with.

I've been cleaning my body of heavy metals and other toxins for a long time and it's better for me normally for where I am. It took a lot of cilantro, oregano, sage, cinnamon, and basil to get here. But I keep getting sick at work and it goes in circles but the good news is I found a new job I can hopefully hold down in a cleaner environment overall in customer service. It all started going downhill the worst when I was working inside a very popular gas station. Never mind are bombarded with relentless wireless radiation from multiple sources but we all know what is in those fumes you are breathing in all day from the area combined with the constant cooking of "food" in the giant microwave ovens all day. I go home feeling terrible.

I keep a couple mini orgone pieces on me that I periodically clean, some people say they can't handle them like I heard from someone else on this forum but personally I need them on me to keep my energy levels up. I also love silver and have a small anklet and necklace. If I forget them I'll notice, one time I went to the mall and noticed I felt horrible like something was draining me of my physical energy, I wasn't handling it too well especially upon entering any stores. Didn't do anything different that day but head out to a place like a mall. So I feel my pockets and sure enough I forgot them. Got home slipped them in and had to go out again later that evening and was fine. I don't know what to say on that since there are so many products out there with so many combinations of ingredients.

And on autistic and ADHD children's hyperactive response to wifi and smart phones, they do it make it worse. I am neither but wifi also makes me hyperactive in the worst way possible if I spend too long in an environment with it nearby, my body gets stressed out and crashes soon after. Mentally I get taken on a manic depressive roller coaster ride before it comes to a screeching halt and I feel a kind of terrible I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Smart phones screens with their blue light, high resolution output can also have severe effects on people. I have a screen color filter on mine and don't use anymore than I have to. I also feel that is a huge key in modern mental illness but good luck getting any research on that out to the mainstream, they would go nuts if they knew in denial anyways. Plus it would force a lot of companies to come forth with very damaging information for them regarding wireless radiation and blow the top off the whole issue, I can't see them wanting to do that. Never mind a blow to their deep pockets but no one is going to be a happy camper after they learn in full what it's doing to their minds and bodies.

 

sailplane wrote

Jinna wrote

My bed is of a metallic structure, and the bedroom faces a couple of towns, which are downhill. So we get all cell phone antennas directly on our southern facade.

Here in the busy city, everywhere I go that is higher up I start to feel worse very quickly.  I thought maybe I'm imagining it but it happened over and over on different higher grounds.  It makes sense, because from there if I had a telescope I'd be able to view tens if not even a hundred cell towers in the distance.  The signal travels up to 10km, so up there you're getting thousands of mixed data streams.  
My conclusion has been that the more data is in the air the worse the problem gets.  Each 1 or 0 bit is part of a pulse, so more data means more pulsing.  The effects are caused by the pulses, so more pulses equal to more effects.

They get worse higher up for me too, I noticed that when I was away on vacation this year and was in a restaurant on the top floor. Felt terrible, body was in pretty bad distress and I couldn't even enjoy my plate of greasy hash browns in peace. Think about it like this, every day more and more people get new phones and wireless devices that communicate with each other and those towers. The more people that get them the more saturated the atmosphere gets in those areas especially, I can see it becoming a serious problem in the future for everyone. Once a certain threshold of saturation is reached and we even have 5G rolling out amping it up even more you can expect masses of people to suddenly get very ill.

Yes, It will get worse.

More and more are using the phones and devices and also more have more heavy use like down and uploading, videowatching that emits more emf. Not to talk about internet of things with freezer, washing machine, smartfunctionality devices and everything else connected. And then then the move to 5g which again are a lot worse than 4g..

Only five years ago when 4g just had come, so nobody actually had it and also datarates were very costly, I remember almost nobody were using the mobile on the metro. Nowadays half sit with the mobile on the bus checking facebook sms instagram news etc. One day I checked around me on the bus and every 6 of the closest passengers were using their Smartphones..so i had to change seat.

Hey guys, I'm glad somehow to hear some voices there that finally make me feel less lonely.

It's not in all in my head (even though I do feel ALL in my head!!!)

There is already a big problem going on, in the developed world: infertility is one, birth defects another.

Then all neuro diseases coming earlier and earlier (ADHD, autism are just 2), look into MS, all old age brain diseases appearing DECADES earlier than usual...

It's ALREADY a big burden to some families, as having one member with such handicapping problems (ADHD can be handicapping in all senses) stress the whole family, not only emotionally, but economically (parents have to spend a lot to support their damaged ones).

Divorce, emotional stress, even suicide is not uncommon.

Even if they do not know the reason, now with those SMARTmeters (that are as SMART as smartphones, smart TVs etc), it looks that no one will be free of disease anymore. Not even the ones that say non-ES.

It's clearly a time bomb, but the bomb is leaking.

This week, I've been busy trying to help a desperate woman who could not sleep for the last year, got affected in her heart, got her lyme disease to the top, total breakdown.

The local phone company installed a new 'better' system (so to say, SMARTER than the old system) in her house and she literally broke, almost suicidal.

I found her on her kitchen floor, desperately screaming to the Swisscom on her phone to pull their bloody device off her house, but Swisscom insisted she was a mad woman, and NO ONE ever complained to swisscom about ES, it was all in HER head.

Swisscom then threatened her to take off the device, but they would cut her phone line for good as there is NO OTHER alternative.

Well, she found an electrician and built a lead box around the device, and now she feels a bit better.

By chance, the electrician's sister is working on a small company that makes products to put under the bed of ES people, so that they can sleep better. She called the lady, who came with some A4 papers packed in plastic, and placed these stuff under her bed, and she swears now she can sleep better.

She also said she knows another small company, who sort of do a whole house protection for ES people's house, but they are not accepting new customers (or you go into waiting list of 8 MONTHS)!!!

They employ about 6 people, who work SATURDAYS included, every day from 8am to 6pm, spend about 2-3 hours in each house, and are fully OVERBOOKED.

You wonder....

the crisis is here, already, now.

Another company producing these orgone-like devices (only with stones, WITHOUT the epoxy) has been on business for many years too. The medical doctor was using these crushed stones in the past to help his patients recover, because he said, his medicine was not working, but the moment the patient becomes less exposed to harmuful EMRs, they recovered better.

In the last years, he closed his office, does not work as a MD any more, only debugs people's houses from EMRs with his crushed stones (he has many combinations that fit different people, different environements).

Well, he reached his limit too. In some houses, he can't help the people further with crushed stones anymore. Too much ER for healing stones to do any effect.

I will order soon some products from Vibesup (I'm, not doing pub, because I don't know their products).

I have orgonites here (I choose mine carefully, as not all fit my body), but this lady uses combined crushed stones PLUS some essential oils.

I've been using essential oils for more than a decade, and they do have healing properties, I have no shadow of a doubt. Some of them do calm me - some profoundly. I know that EMR make my ANS go bananas, and the parasympathetic goes skyrocketing and that is what make me anxious (like hyperactive).

I'll let you guys know.

My Schumann resonance stone works well already, but I'd like a back up of other things when I'm around. I can't stand the train EMF, as I dont know where they put their darn wifi, and in some seats, I almost faint after 20 minutes...

I sincerely hope more people collapse. Not a mean hope, so that other people suffer.
No, I sincerely would like a faster collapse so that a possible awakening comes.

this is worse than Brave New World society. We are living in a sort of prison that I would like to break through, but how?

So many families are collapsing economically because of consequences of EMFs, but they do not know yet the real cause.

The more smartmeters in the US and possibly here (I think they are already here...), somehow will be better. I hope.

There must be a tipping point at a certain time. Can our human mind and spirit be so dumb as to aim self-elimination? For the moment, my answer is yes, we are. Yes, we can! (be dumb)