Smart meters and "opt out Analog" meters

Oh my goodness Judy, a reading of 1500+ is amazing!  I'm glad you've got that under better control. It's also good to hear that shutting off power is helping.

One thing about the stetzer filters, a "dirty" secret I suppose... :-)  They produce EMR. That energy has to go somewhere, eh?  So you may want to test (with a good gaussmeter) any filters that are close to where you'll be living or sleeping to make sure you aren't exposed to EMR.  Whew!  :-)   I found the field extends about a foot or so around the filter, not too far, so you just don't want a filter next to you, like behind your bed or a chair...

I bet your electric utility will confirm what system they are using, or they might have info on their website... It might be helpful to know exactly what they are using. I hadn't heard of G3-PLC before, so there may be other systems out there...

I'd love to know what you find out and hear about your progress, thanks for sharing this!

Tim



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Thank you. Thank you,
Tim, Iprovedit, Snoshoe, and all!

I bet that's it... I bet the new Analog is part of the TWACS system, and why it makes me so nuts. My sister and I each have the new "analog" meter. They bother each of us, but mine is much worse than hers. I live in an electrically busy area with homes, apartments, and businesses up the street a ways. Power lines in my neighborhood are above the ground and older... 30 years or more for main above-ground lines.

My sister lives in a newer neighborhood. Power lines are buried, and she lives more on the edge of town with desert (no electricity) in a couple of directions.

I just got a stetzer meter and it is very revealing. I had a couple areas of my house where the readings are 1500-1700... there are some wiring errors, and I shut off the circuit breaker to those rooms (ceiling lights) till I get it wired properly. The house is much quieter - but still a problem from the meter, I believe.  The readings from the Stetzer meter do vary throughout the day in some rooms.

Like Tim, it takes a while to isolate what is doing what. I seem quite sensitive to dirty electricity. Today my son and I drove out of town to a hiking area - no elecctriciity, no cell phone towers in sight. I felt wonderful! No symptoms, no buzzing. Body pains left. Came back home, and it builds up in my body again.

I'm cleaning up what I can - room by room, get the wires fixed, took my favorite reading lamp out of my bedroom (bumped up the Stetzer too high), and see where I'm at.

Then, I have a friend who is a retired electrical engineer. He told me about something called an isolation transformer. Might do something with that. He said electrical engineers call dirty electricity "hash".

Judy

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Hi Tim,

Thanks again for your sage advice.

I absolutely agree that off-grid is the 'real' solution. 'Back to the Garden' is my mantra. I have experienced this: When I go into the dense forest, which I do almost daily, I feel great. When I come out and back into the city electrosmog, I feel worse than before. I think that the switch from the healthy electrical ambiance of the forest back to the insane RF fields is an overwhelming shock to my body. I feel the ill effects in my head and in my lungs and heart. I think it might be quite prudent to get out of this city while I still can. When the meshed Smart Grid is fully operational I may not be able to function at all.

I live in a reasonably mild climate. I am thinking about buying an older RV and finding a place to park it. I have an 81 year old mother with me, and I am holding back from making the move. Procrastination is my middle name these days. Mom cannot live in an RV. She is physically unable to do so. So, here I sit...waiting for the Smart Grid to be enabled. I feel like this ES will be the finish of my existence, yet.

The good news is: I have friends who are also ES. At least THEY understand.  I also have the dense forest nearby, as a refuge. There are some really deep gullies. At the bottom of the waterfalls it is absolutely wonderful! What a marvelous place to ground!

Well, enough whining for now. I must remind myself to keep a positive attitude. 

Take care, as well! Have a great day!

Sincerely,

Laurie



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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:26:32 PM
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Hi Laurie,

I'm not sure what to do about TWACS either... It's definitely a whammy, as in order to avoid higher levels of RF, you generally need to get further out in the country. TWACS is used now more in rural areas to conform to smart grids it appears.

I'm leaning towards going off-grid, and reports from some living in the Greenbank area indicate those off-grid are fairing better.  I suppose it all depends on what you are sensitive to, eh?  For me, it's more RF, but since I've seen signs that I'm also sensitive to TWACS, I'm paying attention. The longer that I remained in my job and living in the city around lots of RF, the worse I got. Avoiding RF has stablized me, and now I'm beginning to make some good progress by addressing nutritional and metabolic imbalances.

Stetzer filters did help in the house and improved my symptoms. I bet a filter on the mains before it comes into the house might help even better. There may be someone in the group who has worked with this that can help, but the info I've seen on this indicates the low frequency can't be filtered...

Having a power cut off switch to the bedroom would help I would think, reducing the exposure in the bedroom when you sleep...

Yes, we have a lot of smart and creative folks in this group!  As time goes on, we are learning a lot more about ES and how to adapt... It's nice to know that people all around the world are working on this as well, eh? 

Hang in there,
Tim

Hi Laurie,

It's not practical for everyone to uproot themselves to reduce exposure, but it is an option. I've been leaning towards getting back to nature, wanting to do permaculture, grow food, live simply anyway for many years, so it's not a stretch for me as it might be for others... I haven't considered off-grid until more recently, so I still have room to grow too!  :-) 

When I've been camping outdoors, I feel so much better as well. That leads me back to nature, but I wonder if it may come with a cost. I've done better living out in a more rural area, but I've noticed that when I've gone back into cities, that my symptoms can get much worse afterwards. Yesterday I had to go into Austin, TX for the day and experienced such a strong reaction that it got my attention.  I was hoping that occasional high doses might not affect me since I've reduced my exposure greatly, but that doesn't seem to be my experience.

It might be similar to what people experience when they clean up their diet. You go on a vegetarian diet, the Zone, or a diet that allows your body to normalize and detox somewhat. You are feeling better for a good long while. Then you crave a hamburger or something that throws your body off, and you feel just awful afterwards. I've heard this reported often and have experienced it as well... Might be the same with ES, at least for me. There's no going back for me, only forwards! 

I'm still trying to find that balance between my health and living around modern technology... It's tricky!  :-)

I'm going to be leaving TX soon (too hot for me now in the summers, plus the drought), heading back to the Pacific NW to look for land and homestead... I've thought about getting a small trailer as well, but you have to be careful about the electrical systems in those, especially around the bed. A Yurt is a low cost alternative if you live in a temperate climate... I dream of creating an ES Sanctuary, but that leads to be seen... I want to help others with ES, but I'm not sure how that will manifest... One step at a time, eh?

Don't let ES get you down. Protect yourself the best you can. Having your time in the forest often and grounding sounds wonderful. Have you done a hair analysis to find mineral and metabolic imbalances yet?  That's helped me considerably, and ARL is the best lab for hair analysis, in my opinion. Their supplements (Endomet) are good quality but are way over priced... It's probably best to work with an experienced practitioner on the analysis at first, and that's not cheap. You can go it alone, like I have, but expect a good amount of trial and error in connecting the dots... :-)  Once I began to understand the dynamics going on in my body, I've been able to find the best and most cost effective supplements to begin to balance it out. 

Having friends who understand, love and accept you as you are is a true gift. This group is such a great resource as well, lots of info and experiences shared...

Hang in there,
Tim





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 From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 8:10 AM
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Hi Tim,

Thanks again for your sage advice.

I absolutely agree that off-grid is the 'real' solution. 'Back to the Garden' is my mantra. I have experienced this: When I go into the dense forest, which I do almost daily, I feel great. When I come out and back into the city electrosmog, I feel worse than before. I think that the switch from the healthy electrical ambiance of the forest back to the insane RF fields is an overwhelming shock to my body. I feel the ill effects in my head and in my lungs and heart. I think it might be quite prudent to get out of this city while I still can. When the meshed Smart Grid is fully operational I may not be able to function at all.

I live in a reasonably mild climate. I am thinking about buying an older RV and finding a place to park it. I have an 81 year old mother with me, and I am holding back from making the move. Procrastination is my middle name these days. Mom cannot live in an RV. She is physically unable to do so. So, here I sit...waiting for the Smart Grid to be enabled. I feel like this ES will be the finish of my existence, yet.

The good news is: I have friends who are also ES. At least THEY understand.  I also have the dense forest nearby, as a refuge. There are some really deep gullies. At the bottom of the waterfalls it is absolutely wonderful! What a marvelous place to ground!

Well, enough whining for now. I must remind myself to keep a positive attitude. 

Take care, as well! Have a great day!

Sincerely,

Laurie

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From: Tim <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:26:32 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Smart meters and "opt out Analog" meters


 
Hi Laurie,

I'm not sure what to do about TWACS either... It's definitely a whammy, as in order to avoid higher levels of RF, you generally need to get further out in the country. TWACS is used now more in rural areas to conform to smart grids it appears.

I'm leaning towards going off-grid, and reports from some living in the Greenbank area indicate those off-grid are fairing better.  I suppose it all depends on what you are sensitive to, eh?  For me, it's more RF, but since I've seen signs that I'm also sensitive to TWACS, I'm paying attention. The longer that I remained in my job and living in the city around lots of RF, the worse I got. Avoiding RF has stablized me, and now I'm beginning to make some good progress by addressing nutritional and metabolic imbalances.

Stetzer filters did help in the house and improved my symptoms. I bet a filter on the mains before it comes into the house might help even better. There may be someone in the group who has worked with this that can help, but the info I've seen on this indicates the low frequency can't be filtered...

Having a power cut off switch to the bedroom would help I would think, reducing the exposure in the bedroom when you sleep...

Yes, we have a lot of smart and creative folks in this group!  As time goes on, we are learning a lot more about ES and how to adapt... It's nice to know that people all around the world are working on this as well, eh? 

Hang in there,
Tim

 

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I am new to this group and hope that I'm not asking or repeating what has already been covered here.

I am so glad to see that some in this group are writing about TWACS and power line communication in an ES forum!

A PLC TWACS smart meter was placed on my home about 16 months ago at the time when the whole town was being forced (literally with police accompanying Idaho Power installers to force the meters on the homes of anyone requesting that they not be installed) - into having their meters "upgraded" with the installation of smart meters.  

As the meters were being installed in my neighborhood, I began to suffer from frequenct headaches and dizziness.  When the meter was placed on my home, I developed electro sensitive symptoms of non-stop headaches, buzzing in the ears, pressure in the head, ears and eyes, surreal vibrations in the body, agitation, lethargy, burning in the face, irregular heatbeat, memory and concentration problems, and more.  I contacted the power company and the public utilities commission.  Both deny that these safe "wired" PLC TWACS meters were what was causing my problems.  They will not admit to anything because this new system means huge revenue income for them from selling our personal data of anything we use in our homes which is being recorded by these smart meters to companies fallling over themselves trying to purchase this info.

Before the installation of this smart grid system I was able to use wifi (kept the wireless modem and Wii on all the time), DECT phones, cell phones, used my laptop with a wireless connection, and could use any electrical appliances without feeling ill.  Now I cannot tolerate wireless devices, many electrical appliances make me ill, and I've had to move to get away from cell towers and antennas - which is just about impossible - but had to settle on the house with the lowest RF reads possible for the time being.

I've purchased meters to measure RF, magnetic fields, and dirty electricity and have shielded extensiviely, and turn off breaker circuits at night, but the PLC signals cannot be stopped unless a person actually cuts the power at the mains from entering the house.  Our TWACS PLC meters also have a wireless component which communicate to smart gas and water meters if they, too, are installed at the home (don't expect the power company to tell you that these "wired" meters do admit this )Also, our city who owns the smart water meters have installed antennas all over town since this grid went into operation adding to the electrosmog.

So if anyone has any more info available on TWACS PLC, please post it!  

Many thanks to you all!
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