Shielding

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> This is a really good question.
> If you don't mind, allow me to add my understanding of these points.
> Coming at this from knowing the frequencies of quite a few essential oils, I know that Rose Oil has a frequency of 320.
> With all the talk of "frequencies"  on these ES sites, I've come to the conclusion that there really are two different definitions for frequency. One is those low elf or high elf emf's...measurable with certain meters. The other definition is more like the body's vibration, the chi energy.
> From researching the PH thing, what I've gotten is that the body's PH should be somewhere around 7, close to neutral. Under that means the body is acidic, and closer or above 7 means alkaline. Disease and unhealth can only thrive in an acidic body. Take an "accurate" PH reading of sick people and generally the PH will be 6 or under. Some believe really low PH levels, like 3 or 4 or prime environments for cancer. *By accurate, a reading taken first thing in the morning, spit in a spoon, dip the paper in the spoon...having taking no food or water prior to this reading. NOw for those who have tested their PH with urine, there seems to be a divided school of thought. Some believe urine will typically be lower, so that a 6.75 Urine reading will not necessary mean the body is acidic.
> **NOTE: I have often challenged my cell phone happy friends, especially those who are really into the PH testing, to test their PH in the morning, prior to any cell phone use, and then test their PH again, after using their cell phones. So far the results are that cell phones LOWER the body's PH. Which means radiaiton causes the body to turn acidic and it happens VERY QUICKLY.
> So  raising the body's PH, because often it is low, (like 5.75 or 6 or 6.25 )which really means it is too acidic.- is a good thing. But  I don't think raising the body's inner voltage is a good thing.
> I think anytime we are surrounded by bad emf's, (high ele fields, high magnetic fields, or radiation) this causes the body's voltage to go way up....and it should be kept low.
> I read somewhere that when people are surrounded by high ele or high magnetic fields, it causes the body to become "ungrounded". And when the body becomes ungrounded, it becomes much more susceptible to other emf's, like micro wave radiation. Whether this is true across the board, I don't know. But I do think that people who live in houses or spend alot of time in areas that have bad wiring or high magnetic fields, and this includes current in the water...I do think that this plays a large role in the ES conditon. I do not think it is the ONLY contributing factor, but I do think it plays a fairly large role. I also read a study  by the Electrical INstitute on childhood Leukemia where the scientists found that children living under high tension lines (high magnetic fields) also had homes where they had current in the water. They called it "contact current" and I thought this was very interesting because we had high current in our water, and my daughter reacted to this water. Now that I keep her away from the sink, and any running water...she has made huge  improvements. I keep 5 gal buckets filled with filtered water that is filled at night, when the current is the lowest, and I also treat the water using cosmic energy stones....So when she rinses a dish off, I keep a container in the sink filled with *this water, so she doesn't have to use tap water.
> **(some of you may remember that there was quite a stir about these stones in an earlier post). However, for the record, I have tested her body voltage using tap water, PUR filter, R/O filter, and using this treated water and she has totally different body voltage readings....If she uses any water from the tap, whether its the PUR filter, or the tap, her body voltage IS HIGH. if she uses the bucket water, her body voltage stays low.
> I don't know exactly how these stones work...but the results have been duplicated time and time again. And yes, what works for one may not work for another. I will make a point of stating that when using the stones, it is imperative to use ONLY filtered water. OUr water stays crystal clear for days on end, usng the stones. And because water is so truly important, I have an active experiment going on all the time with people I meet, who I have taste my water. So far, well over 25 people (I know that's not alot but its more then just my family) so far, every single one of them has said my water taste wonderful. Some of these people drink bottled water, some use the Britta filter, some use alkaline water, some use vortex water, some drink well water, and some use tap.  
> I"ve also tested some friends who are cell phone happy, using the Body Voltage Meter...they all have HIGH body voltage. Is it a coincidence that they all have health issues? Some of these people had reading so high, it was off the charts on the meter!
> Lizzie
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> To: [hidden email]
> From: evie15422@...
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:05:13 -0700
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
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> Hi, Andrew,  
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> I want to ask a question, but not in an argumentative way.  I am asking because if I am wrong, I truly want to know I am wrong, so I do not spread disinformation.
>  
> You mention it being necessary to "lower our body voltage".  Do you know that to be fact, Andrew?  I have gone on the assumption (and have been, personally, rewarded with better health and more tolerance to emfs by heeding this assumption) that I needed to raise my body's frequency/ voltage/ pH.  Or maybe what you said and what you meant are not the same?
>  
> I see it as this....  we start out with too low a voltage (also frequency and pH) and our bodies attract voltage from outside us, due to being too low.  The "body voltage" we need to get rid of is the unnatural voltage we pick up from emfs, which are electron stealers.  I do that--I sit and "ground" my body in places where I know the earth is pristinely free of ground currents and will carry my unwanted body pollutants away, while donating electrons back to me.  
>  
> However, at the same time, I have been actively working at raising my body's frequency/ cell voltage/ and pH to a more normal level.  I have done this a number of ways: thru eating more nutritious, organic, and unprocessed foods, and a more vegetable diet; natural supplements of various kinds--mainly to help my liver and various organs which have shown damage; hydrogen supplementation;  alkaline water; essential oils; herbs; detoxing out as many toxins as possible; frequent showers; salts soaks; gemstone necklaces with helpful frequencies; lots of green plants in my home; lots of nature walks/ hikes; other exercise (biking in nature, mini-tramp, pilates, beginners yoga, beginners QiGong)....  the list is long.  
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> Long before I knew voltage and pH go hand in hand, I was working at raising my pH with the end-game of raising my body's frequency, which I had only guessed, was low.  (I knew my pH was low from using pH test strips.)  However, each of these things I changed or did was ultimately helpful and healthful to me.  Each of these did raise my pH (and thus voltage, since voltage and pH automatically mirror one another.)  
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> So, I have been telling people privately to raise their voltage/ pH.  Yes, this is an individual thing--people have to test pH to see if it is low in the first place.  But you can see my dilemma here.  I am saying the polar opposite from what you just wrote.
>  
> Thanks, in advance, for your reply.  
> Bless you,
> Diane
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> --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
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> From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:15 PM
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> I recommend a EMF FACE SHIELD KIT
> http://www.lessemf.com/computer.html
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> if your eyes and face are the most problem. Having fabric touch the
> skin opens up a whole can of worms (electrical current, grounding, etc.)
>
> I have had success wearing the overcoat at airports, on planes with
> cell phones around, etc.
> http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
> because it for the most part doesn't touch my skin directly.
>
> There is much more to this story but if you can turn off as much power
> to the room as possible (lower the body voltage) then you're dealing
> mostly with just microwave/radio type radiation and not the electrical
> current or magnetic fields from being close to a monitor or laptop.
>
> One thing at a time.
>
> Good luck!
> Andrew
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> On May 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, valerie.kopach wrote:
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> > Hi ALL
> > Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> > lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> > and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> > hats.
> > I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> > something that will help me tolerate these things better.
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> This is a really good question.
> If you don't mind, allow me to add my understanding of these points.
> Coming at this from knowing the frequencies of quite a few essential oils, I know that Rose Oil has a frequency of 320.
> With all the talk of "frequencies" on these ES sites, I've come to the conclusion that there really are two different definitions for frequency. One is those low elf or high elf emf's...measurable with certain meters. The other definition is more like the body's vibration, the chi energy.
> From researching the PH thing, what I've gotten is that the body's PH should be somewhere around 7, close to neutral. Under that means the body is acidic, and closer or above 7 means alkaline. Disease and unhealth can only thrive in an acidic body. Take an "accurate" PH reading of sick people and generally the PH will be 6 or under. Some believe really low PH levels, like 3 or 4 or prime environments for cancer. *By accurate, a reading taken first thing in the morning, spit in a spoon, dip the paper in the spoon...having taking no food or water prior to this reading. NOw for those who have tested their PH with urine, there seems to be a divided school of thought. Some believe urine will typically be lower, so that a 6.75 Urine reading will not necessary mean the body is acidic.
> **NOTE: I have often challenged my cell phone happy friends, especially those who are really into the PH testing, to test their PH in the morning, prior to any cell phone use, and then test their PH again, after using their cell phones. So far the results are that cell phones LOWER the body's PH. Which means radiaiton causes the body to turn acidic and it happens VERY QUICKLY.
> So raising the body's PH, because often it is low, (like 5.75 or 6 or 6.25 )which really means it is too acidic.- is a good thing. But I don't think raising the body's inner voltage is a good thing.
> I think anytime we are surrounded by bad emf's, (high ele fields, high magnetic fields, or radiation) this causes the body's voltage to go way up....and it should be kept low.
> I read somewhere that when people are surrounded by high ele or high magnetic fields, it causes the body to become "ungrounded". And when the body becomes ungrounded, it becomes much more susceptible to other emf's, like micro wave radiation. Whether this is true across the board, I don't know. But I do think that people who live in houses or spend alot of time in areas that have bad wiring or high magnetic fields, and this includes current in the water...I do think that this plays a large role in the ES conditon. I do not think it is the ONLY contributing factor, but I do think it plays a fairly large role. I also read a study by the Electrical INstitute on childhood Leukemia where the scientists found that children living under high tension lines (high magnetic fields) also had homes where they had current in the water. They called it "contact current" and I thought this was very interesting because we had high current in our water, and my daughter reacted to this water. Now that I keep her away from the sink, and any running water...she has made huge improvements. I keep 5 gal buckets filled with filtered water that is filled at night, when the current is the lowest, and I also treat the water using cosmic energy stones....So when she rinses a dish off, I keep a container in the sink filled with *this water, so she doesn't have to use tap water.
> **(some of you may remember that there was quite a stir about these stones in an earlier post). However, for the record, I have tested her body voltage using tap water, PUR filter, R/O filter, and using this treated water and she has totally different body voltage readings....If she uses any water from the tap, whether its the PUR filter, or the tap, her body voltage IS HIGH. if she uses the bucket water, her body voltage stays low.
> I don't know exactly how these stones work...but the results have been duplicated time and time again. And yes, what works for one may not work for another. I will make a point of stating that when using the stones, it is imperative to use ONLY filtered water. OUr water stays crystal clear for days on end, usng the stones. And because water is so truly important, I have an active experiment going on all the time with people I meet, who I have taste my water. So far, well over 25 people (I know that's not alot but its more then just my family) so far, every single one of them has said my water taste wonderful. Some of these people drink bottled water, some use the Britta filter, some use alkaline water, some use vortex water, some drink well water, and some use tap.
> I"ve also tested some friends who are cell phone happy, using the Body Voltage Meter...they all have HIGH body voltage. Is it a coincidence that they all have health issues? Some of these people had reading so high, it was off the charts on the meter!
> Lizzie
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> To: [hidden email]
> From: evie15422@...
> Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:05:13 -0700
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
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> Hi, Andrew,
>
> I want to ask a question, but not in an argumentative way. I am asking because if I am wrong, I truly want to know I am wrong, so I do not spread disinformation.
>
> You mention it being necessary to "lower our body voltage". Do you know that to be fact, Andrew? I have gone on the assumption (and have been, personally, rewarded with better health and more tolerance to emfs by heeding this assumption) that I needed to raise my body's frequency/ voltage/ pH. Or maybe what you said and what you meant are not the same?
>
> I see it as this.... we start out with too low a voltage (also frequency and pH) and our bodies attract voltage from outside us, due to being too low. The "body voltage" we need to get rid of is the unnatural voltage we pick up from emfs, which are electron stealers. I do that--I sit and "ground" my body in places where I know the earth is pristinely free of ground currents and will carry my unwanted body pollutants away, while donating electrons back to me.
>
> However, at the same time, I have been actively working at raising my body's frequency/ cell voltage/ and pH to a more normal level. I have done this a number of ways: thru eating more nutritious, organic, and unprocessed foods, and a more vegetable diet; natural supplements of various kinds--mainly to help my liver and various organs which have shown damage; hydrogen supplementation; alkaline water; essential oils; herbs; detoxing out as many toxins as possible; frequent showers; salts soaks; gemstone necklaces with helpful frequencies; lots of green plants in my home; lots of nature walks/ hikes; other exercise (biking in nature, mini-tramp, pilates, beginners yoga, beginners QiGong).... the list is long.
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> Long before I knew voltage and pH go hand in hand, I was working at raising my pH with the end-game of raising my body's frequency, which I had only guessed, was low. (I knew my pH was low from using pH test strips.) However, each of these things I changed or did was ultimately helpful and healthful to me. Each of these did raise my pH (and thus voltage, since voltage and pH automatically mirror one another.)
>
> So, I have been telling people privately to raise their voltage/ pH. Yes, this is an individual thing--people have to test pH to see if it is low in the first place. But you can see my dilemma here. I am saying the polar opposite from what you just wrote.
>
> Thanks, in advance, for your reply.
> Bless you,
> Diane
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> --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
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> From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:15 PM
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>
>
> I recommend a EMF FACE SHIELD KIT
> http://www.lessemf.com/computer.html
>
> if your eyes and face are the most problem. Having fabric touch the
> skin opens up a whole can of worms (electrical current, grounding, etc.)
>
> I have had success wearing the overcoat at airports, on planes with
> cell phones around, etc.
> http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
> because it for the most part doesn't touch my skin directly.
>
> There is much more to this story but if you can turn off as much power
> to the room as possible (lower the body voltage) then you're dealing
> mostly with just microwave/radio type radiation and not the electrical
> current or magnetic fields from being close to a monitor or laptop.
>
> One thing at a time.
>
> Good luck!
> Andrew
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> On May 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, valerie.kopach wrote:
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> > Hi ALL
> > Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> > lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> > and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> > hats.
> > I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> > something that will help me tolerate these things better.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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> Thanks, I'm going to give you some links, to how I basically retrovitted a simple tool into a body voltage meter...the difference between spending 125 and a little more then 60 bucks.
> This  comes with leads that you can plug into the meter. So I got some rubber coated wire, 4 alligator clips- click on the picture, this is what I have for the alligator clips.
> I simply took my clamp ammeter and made it into a body voltage meter. But instead of using safeliving's way of putting the ground rod into the out side ground....which I don't think is a good idea, as I don't KNOW what kind of current is in my ground out there, and my intuition screamed at me, NOT to do it this...I did it a different way and I still believe (inspite of what others may say) that my readings are very useful as a guide. I don't need perfect accuracy...what I needed was a way to gauge whethr body voltage was UP or DOWN..and whether certain things increased body voltage or not. So I have a planter filled with soil, and a 6 in piece of copper rod, about a half inch wide...I put the copper rod into the middle of the soil, and attach the alligator clip to the top of this rod. YOu do have to make sure the soil in the planter is moist! So the leads that come with the ammeter are plugged in, and the alligator clips are attached to those leads...INteresting thing is that every cell phone heavy user I've tested, shows a Body Voltage reading off the charts!
> I just that www.lessemf.com also sells a Body Voltage Meter for 89 bucks. This may be an answer for some.
> I truly believe that whether its those who are on the grid and are connnected to city water, or those who live in places where there's current in the ground that would find its way to well water, or those who have antennas on their city's water towers, which would not only put current into the water, but the water ends up being irradiated...any or all of these make the water we bath in, wash dishes in, etc....have current in it. And although the effect is subtle for most people, it is NOT for my daughter.
> I can have days when I'm not around cell phones, do no errands, etc....forget and use the tap water, and I get very similiar symptoms from being exposed to current in the water, as when I'm exposed to cell phones/ wifi/ or even just cell phone toxic people.
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> Lizzie
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> To: [hidden email]
> From: kikkiehealth@...
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:16:36 +0000
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Shielding
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> Hi Lizzie
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> That was a very interesting post.
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> Especially the part where you said about people turning acid very quickly after using their cell phones.
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> I also feel EMF makes me go extremely acidic (even have what feels like GERD from it), so much so that I sometimes drink baking soda afterwards to feel better. I've googled EMF sensitivity and acidosis (and lactic acidosis) quite a bit and found quite a few 'hits'.
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> I also think (as posted before) the mast cells are involved here, and they degranulate when exposed to EMF, also leading to acidity in some or other way. Every time I get EMFed (but also sometimes from other triggers such as the dog or anything acidic I eat or drink) the skin on my chest starts burning, and then I know I'm in for the whole cascade of reactions - low blood sugar, fatigue, 'acidity', lowered body temperature, and then waking up in the night feeling short of breath, weak, etc.
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> What do you use as a body voltage meter?
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> Thanks
> K
> --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
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> > This is a really good question.
> > If you don't mind, allow me to add my understanding of these points.
> > Coming at this from knowing the frequencies of quite a few essential oils, I know that Rose Oil has a frequency of 320.
> > With all the talk of "frequencies" on these ES sites, I've come to the conclusion that there really are two different definitions for frequency. One is those low elf or high elf emf's...measurable with certain meters. The other definition is more like the body's vibration, the chi energy.
> > From researching the PH thing, what I've gotten is that the body's PH should be somewhere around 7, close to neutral. Under that means the body is acidic, and closer or above 7 means alkaline. Disease and unhealth can only thrive in an acidic body. Take an "accurate" PH reading of sick people and generally the PH will be 6 or under. Some believe really low PH levels, like 3 or 4 or prime environments for cancer. *By accurate, a reading taken first thing in the morning, spit in a spoon, dip the paper in the spoon...having taking no food or water prior to this reading. NOw for those who have tested their PH with urine, there seems to be a divided school of thought. Some believe urine will typically be lower, so that a 6.75 Urine reading will not necessary mean the body is acidic.
> > **NOTE: I have often challenged my cell phone happy friends, especially those who are really into the PH testing, to test their PH in the morning, prior to any cell phone use, and then test their PH again, after using their cell phones. So far the results are that cell phones LOWER the body's PH. Which means radiaiton causes the body to turn acidic and it happens VERY QUICKLY.
> > So raising the body's PH, because often it is low, (like 5.75 or 6 or 6.25 )which really means it is too acidic.- is a good thing. But I don't think raising the body's inner voltage is a good thing.
> > I think anytime we are surrounded by bad emf's, (high ele fields, high magnetic fields, or radiation) this causes the body's voltage to go way up....and it should be kept low.
> > I read somewhere that when people are surrounded by high ele or high magnetic fields, it causes the body to become "ungrounded". And when the body becomes ungrounded, it becomes much more susceptible to other emf's, like micro wave radiation. Whether this is true across the board, I don't know. But I do think that people who live in houses or spend alot of time in areas that have bad wiring or high magnetic fields, and this includes current in the water...I do think that this plays a large role in the ES conditon. I do not think it is the ONLY contributing factor, but I do think it plays a fairly large role. I also read a study by the Electrical INstitute on childhood Leukemia where the scientists found that children living under high tension lines (high magnetic fields) also had homes where they had current in the water. They called it "contact current" and I thought this was very interesting because we had high current in our water, and my daughter reacted to this water. Now that I keep her away from the sink, and any running water...she has made huge improvements. I keep 5 gal buckets filled with filtered water that is filled at night, when the current is the lowest, and I also treat the water using cosmic energy stones....So when she rinses a dish off, I keep a container in the sink filled with *this water, so she doesn't have to use tap water.
> > **(some of you may remember that there was quite a stir about these stones in an earlier post). However, for the record, I have tested her body voltage using tap water, PUR filter, R/O filter, and using this treated water and she has totally different body voltage readings....If she uses any water from the tap, whether its the PUR filter, or the tap, her body voltage IS HIGH. if she uses the bucket water, her body voltage stays low.
> > I don't know exactly how these stones work...but the results have been duplicated time and time again. And yes, what works for one may not work for another. I will make a point of stating that when using the stones, it is imperative to use ONLY filtered water. OUr water stays crystal clear for days on end, usng the stones. And because water is so truly important, I have an active experiment going on all the time with people I meet, who I have taste my water. So far, well over 25 people (I know that's not alot but its more then just my family) so far, every single one of them has said my water taste wonderful. Some of these people drink bottled water, some use the Britta filter, some use alkaline water, some use vortex water, some drink well water, and some use tap.
> > I"ve also tested some friends who are cell phone happy, using the Body Voltage Meter...they all have HIGH body voltage. Is it a coincidence that they all have health issues? Some of these people had reading so high, it was off the charts on the meter!
> > Lizzie
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> > To: [hidden email]
> > From: evie15422@
> > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:05:13 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, Andrew,
> >
> > I want to ask a question, but not in an argumentative way. I am asking because if I am wrong, I truly want to know I am wrong, so I do not spread disinformation.
> >
> > You mention it being necessary to "lower our body voltage". Do you know that to be fact, Andrew? I have gone on the assumption (and have been, personally, rewarded with better health and more tolerance to emfs by heeding this assumption) that I needed to raise my body's frequency/ voltage/ pH. Or maybe what you said and what you meant are not the same?
> >
> > I see it as this.... we start out with too low a voltage (also frequency and pH) and our bodies attract voltage from outside us, due to being too low. The "body voltage" we need to get rid of is the unnatural voltage we pick up from emfs, which are electron stealers. I do that--I sit and "ground" my body in places where I know the earth is pristinely free of ground currents and will carry my unwanted body pollutants away, while donating electrons back to me.
> >
> > However, at the same time, I have been actively working at raising my body's frequency/ cell voltage/ and pH to a more normal level. I have done this a number of ways: thru eating more nutritious, organic, and unprocessed foods, and a more vegetable diet; natural supplements of various kinds--mainly to help my liver and various organs which have shown damage; hydrogen supplementation; alkaline water; essential oils; herbs; detoxing out as many toxins as possible; frequent showers; salts soaks; gemstone necklaces with helpful frequencies; lots of green plants in my home; lots of nature walks/ hikes; other exercise (biking in nature, mini-tramp, pilates, beginners yoga, beginners QiGong).... the list is long.
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> > Long before I knew voltage and pH go hand in hand, I was working at raising my pH with the end-game of raising my body's frequency, which I had only guessed, was low. (I knew my pH was low from using pH test strips.) However, each of these things I changed or did was ultimately helpful and healthful to me. Each of these did raise my pH (and thus voltage, since voltage and pH automatically mirror one another.)
> >
> > So, I have been telling people privately to raise their voltage/ pH. Yes, this is an individual thing--people have to test pH to see if it is low in the first place. But you can see my dilemma here. I am saying the polar opposite from what you just wrote.
> >
> > Thanks, in advance, for your reply.
> > Bless you,
> > Diane
> >
> > --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
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> > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:15 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > I recommend a EMF FACE SHIELD KIT
> > http://www.lessemf.com/computer.html
> >
> > if your eyes and face are the most problem. Having fabric touch the
> > skin opens up a whole can of worms (electrical current, grounding, etc.)
> >
> > I have had success wearing the overcoat at airports, on planes with
> > cell phones around, etc.
> > http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
> > because it for the most part doesn't touch my skin directly.
> >
> > There is much more to this story but if you can turn off as much power
> > to the room as possible (lower the body voltage) then you're dealing
> > mostly with just microwave/radio type radiation and not the electrical
> > current or magnetic fields from being close to a monitor or laptop.
> >
> > One thing at a time.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Andrew
> >
> > On May 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, valerie.kopach wrote:
> >
> > > Hi ALL
> > > Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> > > lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> > > and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> > > hats.
> > > I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> > > something that will help me tolerate these things better.
> > >
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> Thanks, I'm going to give you some links, to how I basically retrovitted a simple tool into a body voltage meter...the difference between spending 125 and a little more then 60 bucks.
> This  comes with leads that you can plug into the meter. So I got some rubber coated wire, 4 alligator clips- click on the picture, this is what I have for the alligator clips.
> I simply took my clamp ammeter and made it into a body voltage meter. But instead of using safeliving's way of putting the ground rod into the out side ground....which I don't think is a good idea, as I don't KNOW what kind of current is in my ground out there, and my intuition screamed at me, NOT to do it this...I did it a different way and I still believe (inspite of what others may say) that my readings are very useful as a guide. I don't need perfect accuracy...what I needed was a way to gauge whethr body voltage was UP or DOWN..and whether certain things increased body voltage or not. So I have a planter filled with soil, and a 6 in piece of copper rod, about a half inch wide...I put the copper rod into the middle of the soil, and attach the alligator clip to the top of this rod. YOu do have to make sure the soil in the planter is moist! So the leads that come with the ammeter are plugged in, and the alligator clips are attached to those leads...INteresting thing is that every cell phone heavy user I've tested, shows a Body Voltage reading off the charts!
> I just that www.lessemf.com also sells a Body Voltage Meter for 89 bucks. This may be an answer for some.
> I truly believe that whether its those who are on the grid and are connnected to city water, or those who live in places where there's current in the ground that would find its way to well water, or those who have antennas on their city's water towers, which would not only put current into the water, but the water ends up being irradiated...any or all of these make the water we bath in, wash dishes in, etc....have current in it. And although the effect is subtle for most people, it is NOT for my daughter.
> I can have days when I'm not around cell phones, do no errands, etc....forget and use the tap water, and I get very similiar symptoms from being exposed to current in the water, as when I'm exposed to cell phones/ wifi/ or even just cell phone toxic people.
> HOpe this helps.
> Lizzie
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> Not helpful? You can block safelivingtechnologies.ca results when you're signed in to search.safelivingtechnologies.caPDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick ViewConnect one end of the red wire to the jack of the Body Voltage Meter labeled ... Press in the orange "Power" button to turn on the Body Voltage Meter ...www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/.../BV_Home_Measuring%20Instructions.pdf
> Klein Tools 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp - CL200 at ...
> Get the Klein Tools, Inc. 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp CL200, 3 AAA- Alkaline batteries included features an automatic shut-off that helps to ...www.homedepot.com/Electrical.../Klein Tools 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp
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> To: [hidden email]
> From: kikkiehealth@...
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:16:36 +0000
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Shielding
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>
> Hi Lizzie
>
> That was a very interesting post.
>
> Especially the part where you said about people turning acid very quickly after using their cell phones.
>
> I also feel EMF makes me go extremely acidic (even have what feels like GERD from it), so much so that I sometimes drink baking soda afterwards to feel better. I've googled EMF sensitivity and acidosis (and lactic acidosis) quite a bit and found quite a few 'hits'.
>
> I also think (as posted before) the mast cells are involved here, and they degranulate when exposed to EMF, also leading to acidity in some or other way. Every time I get EMFed (but also sometimes from other triggers such as the dog or anything acidic I eat or drink) the skin on my chest starts burning, and then I know I'm in for the whole cascade of reactions - low blood sugar, fatigue, 'acidity', lowered body temperature, and then waking up in the night feeling short of breath, weak, etc.
>
> What do you use as a body voltage meter?
>
> Thanks
> K
> --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This is a really good question.
> > If you don't mind, allow me to add my understanding of these points.
> > Coming at this from knowing the frequencies of quite a few essential oils, I know that Rose Oil has a frequency of 320.
> > With all the talk of "frequencies" on these ES sites, I've come to the conclusion that there really are two different definitions for frequency. One is those low elf or high elf emf's...measurable with certain meters. The other definition is more like the body's vibration, the chi energy.
> > From researching the PH thing, what I've gotten is that the body's PH should be somewhere around 7, close to neutral. Under that means the body is acidic, and closer or above 7 means alkaline. Disease and unhealth can only thrive in an acidic body. Take an "accurate" PH reading of sick people and generally the PH will be 6 or under. Some believe really low PH levels, like 3 or 4 or prime environments for cancer. *By accurate, a reading taken first thing in the morning, spit in a spoon, dip the paper in the spoon...having taking no food or water prior to this reading. NOw for those who have tested their PH with urine, there seems to be a divided school of thought. Some believe urine will typically be lower, so that a 6.75 Urine reading will not necessary mean the body is acidic.
> > **NOTE: I have often challenged my cell phone happy friends, especially those who are really into the PH testing, to test their PH in the morning, prior to any cell phone use, and then test their PH again, after using their cell phones. So far the results are that cell phones LOWER the body's PH. Which means radiaiton causes the body to turn acidic and it happens VERY QUICKLY.
> > So raising the body's PH, because often it is low, (like 5.75 or 6 or 6.25 )which really means it is too acidic.- is a good thing. But I don't think raising the body's inner voltage is a good thing.
> > I think anytime we are surrounded by bad emf's, (high ele fields, high magnetic fields, or radiation) this causes the body's voltage to go way up....and it should be kept low.
> > I read somewhere that when people are surrounded by high ele or high magnetic fields, it causes the body to become "ungrounded". And when the body becomes ungrounded, it becomes much more susceptible to other emf's, like micro wave radiation. Whether this is true across the board, I don't know. But I do think that people who live in houses or spend alot of time in areas that have bad wiring or high magnetic fields, and this includes current in the water...I do think that this plays a large role in the ES conditon. I do not think it is the ONLY contributing factor, but I do think it plays a fairly large role. I also read a study by the Electrical INstitute on childhood Leukemia where the scientists found that children living under high tension lines (high magnetic fields) also had homes where they had current in the water. They called it "contact current" and I thought this was very interesting because we had high current in our water, and my daughter reacted to this water. Now that I keep her away from the sink, and any running water...she has made huge improvements. I keep 5 gal buckets filled with filtered water that is filled at night, when the current is the lowest, and I also treat the water using cosmic energy stones....So when she rinses a dish off, I keep a container in the sink filled with *this water, so she doesn't have to use tap water.
> > **(some of you may remember that there was quite a stir about these stones in an earlier post). However, for the record, I have tested her body voltage using tap water, PUR filter, R/O filter, and using this treated water and she has totally different body voltage readings....If she uses any water from the tap, whether its the PUR filter, or the tap, her body voltage IS HIGH. if she uses the bucket water, her body voltage stays low.
> > I don't know exactly how these stones work...but the results have been duplicated time and time again. And yes, what works for one may not work for another. I will make a point of stating that when using the stones, it is imperative to use ONLY filtered water. OUr water stays crystal clear for days on end, usng the stones. And because water is so truly important, I have an active experiment going on all the time with people I meet, who I have taste my water. So far, well over 25 people (I know that's not alot but its more then just my family) so far, every single one of them has said my water taste wonderful. Some of these people drink bottled water, some use the Britta filter, some use alkaline water, some use vortex water, some drink well water, and some use tap.
> > I"ve also tested some friends who are cell phone happy, using the Body Voltage Meter...they all have HIGH body voltage. Is it a coincidence that they all have health issues? Some of these people had reading so high, it was off the charts on the meter!
> > Lizzie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: [hidden email]
> > From: evie15422@
> > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:05:13 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi, Andrew,
> >
> > I want to ask a question, but not in an argumentative way. I am asking because if I am wrong, I truly want to know I am wrong, so I do not spread disinformation.
> >
> > You mention it being necessary to "lower our body voltage". Do you know that to be fact, Andrew? I have gone on the assumption (and have been, personally, rewarded with better health and more tolerance to emfs by heeding this assumption) that I needed to raise my body's frequency/ voltage/ pH. Or maybe what you said and what you meant are not the same?
> >
> > I see it as this.... we start out with too low a voltage (also frequency and pH) and our bodies attract voltage from outside us, due to being too low. The "body voltage" we need to get rid of is the unnatural voltage we pick up from emfs, which are electron stealers. I do that--I sit and "ground" my body in places where I know the earth is pristinely free of ground currents and will carry my unwanted body pollutants away, while donating electrons back to me.
> >
> > However, at the same time, I have been actively working at raising my body's frequency/ cell voltage/ and pH to a more normal level. I have done this a number of ways: thru eating more nutritious, organic, and unprocessed foods, and a more vegetable diet; natural supplements of various kinds--mainly to help my liver and various organs which have shown damage; hydrogen supplementation; alkaline water; essential oils; herbs; detoxing out as many toxins as possible; frequent showers; salts soaks; gemstone necklaces with helpful frequencies; lots of green plants in my home; lots of nature walks/ hikes; other exercise (biking in nature, mini-tramp, pilates, beginners yoga, beginners QiGong).... the list is long.
> >
> > Long before I knew voltage and pH go hand in hand, I was working at raising my pH with the end-game of raising my body's frequency, which I had only guessed, was low. (I knew my pH was low from using pH test strips.) However, each of these things I changed or did was ultimately helpful and healthful to me. Each of these did raise my pH (and thus voltage, since voltage and pH automatically mirror one another.)
> >
> > So, I have been telling people privately to raise their voltage/ pH. Yes, this is an individual thing--people have to test pH to see if it is low in the first place. But you can see my dilemma here. I am saying the polar opposite from what you just wrote.
> >
> > Thanks, in advance, for your reply.
> > Bless you,
> > Diane
> >
> > --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:15 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > I recommend a EMF FACE SHIELD KIT
> > http://www.lessemf.com/computer.html
> >
> > if your eyes and face are the most problem. Having fabric touch the
> > skin opens up a whole can of worms (electrical current, grounding, etc.)
> >
> > I have had success wearing the overcoat at airports, on planes with
> > cell phones around, etc.
> > http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
> > because it for the most part doesn't touch my skin directly.
> >
> > There is much more to this story but if you can turn off as much power
> > to the room as possible (lower the body voltage) then you're dealing
> > mostly with just microwave/radio type radiation and not the electrical
> > current or magnetic fields from being close to a monitor or laptop.
> >
> > One thing at a time.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Andrew
> >
> > On May 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, valerie.kopach wrote:
> >
> > > Hi ALL
> > > Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> > > lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> > > and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> > > hats.
> > > I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> > > something that will help me tolerate these things better.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Unfortunately, that pot of soil still has to be grounded to the actual earth for your experiment to work... so you're back to where you started.
>
> For a low cost version, I went to home depot and was lucky to find someone really smart, who guided me to get a short copper rod and ground wire.  The rod wasn't long, so I could push it into the earth without worrying about getting a drill.  Yet it was long enough for my experiment to work. (I compared it with the body voltage meter I bought, which used a ground plug into the electrical system, and the readings were at least comparable.)  Then you need some basic knowledge about stripping the green ground wire & crimping on the necessary connector so it can be plugged into your digital multi-meter.  The most expensive part is the digital multimeter (btw, clamp on ammeter is probably more expensive than multimeter).
>
> The electrician at home depot was cautioning that it was dangerous to measure against the ground of the electrical system since there could be voltage getting on it.  I did notice a slight shock once using the body voltage meter I bought and slightly swollen muscles, so maybe he is right... the earth is said to be safer.
>
> --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks, I'm going to give you some links, to how I basically retrovitted a simple tool into a body voltage meter...the difference between spending 125 and a little more then 60 bucks.
> > This  comes with leads that you can plug into the meter. So I got some rubber coated wire, 4 alligator clips- click on the picture, this is what I have for the alligator clips.
> > I simply took my clamp ammeter and made it into a body voltage meter. But instead of using safeliving's way of putting the ground rod into the out side ground....which I don't think is a good idea, as I don't KNOW what kind of current is in my ground out there, and my intuition screamed at me, NOT to do it this...I did it a different way and I still believe (inspite of what others may say) that my readings are very useful as a guide. I don't need perfect accuracy...what I needed was a way to gauge whethr body voltage was UP or DOWN..and whether certain things increased body voltage or not. So I have a planter filled with soil, and a 6 in piece of copper rod, about a half inch wide...I put the copper rod into the middle of the soil, and attach the alligator clip to the top of this rod. YOu do have to make sure the soil in the planter is moist! So the leads that come with the ammeter are plugged in, and the alligator clips are attached to those leads...INteresting thing is that every cell phone heavy user I've tested, shows a Body Voltage reading off the charts!
> > I just that www.lessemf.com also sells a Body Voltage Meter for 89 bucks. This may be an answer for some.
> > I truly believe that whether its those who are on the grid and are connnected to city water, or those who live in places where there's current in the ground that would find its way to well water, or those who have antennas on their city's water towers, which would not only put current into the water, but the water ends up being irradiated...any or all of these make the water we bath in, wash dishes in, etc....have current in it. And although the effect is subtle for most people, it is NOT for my daughter.
> > I can have days when I'm not around cell phones, do no errands, etc....forget and use the tap water, and I get very similiar symptoms from being exposed to current in the water, as when I'm exposed to cell phones/ wifi/ or even just cell phone toxic people.
> > HOpe this helps.
> > Lizzie
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >  
> >
> >  
> > Bikemaster Alligator Clips<
> >
> > jpg - 124 × 124 - 3k
> > www.motorcycle-superstore.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PDF]
> > Body Voltage Home Test Kit  
> > File Format:- Block all safelivingtechnologies.ca results
> >
> >
> >
> > Not helpful? You can block safelivingtechnologies.ca results when you're signed in to search.safelivingtechnologies.caPDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick ViewConnect one end of the red wire to the jack of the Body Voltage Meter labeled ... Press in the orange "Power" button to turn on the Body Voltage Meter ...www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/.../BV_Home_Measuring%20Instructions.pdf
> > Klein Tools 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp - CL200 at ...
> > Get the Klein Tools, Inc. 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp CL200, 3 AAA- Alkaline batteries included features an automatic shut-off that helps to ...www.homedepot.com/Electrical.../Klein Tools 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp
> >
> > Model # CL200
> > Internet # 202521277
> > Store SKU # 363142
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> > To: [hidden email]
> > From: kikkiehealth@
> > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:16:36 +0000
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Shielding
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Lizzie
> >
> > That was a very interesting post.
> >
> > Especially the part where you said about people turning acid very quickly after using their cell phones.
> >
> > I also feel EMF makes me go extremely acidic (even have what feels like GERD from it), so much so that I sometimes drink baking soda afterwards to feel better. I've googled EMF sensitivity and acidosis (and lactic acidosis) quite a bit and found quite a few 'hits'.
> >
> > I also think (as posted before) the mast cells are involved here, and they degranulate when exposed to EMF, also leading to acidity in some or other way. Every time I get EMFed (but also sometimes from other triggers such as the dog or anything acidic I eat or drink) the skin on my chest starts burning, and then I know I'm in for the whole cascade of reactions - low blood sugar, fatigue, 'acidity', lowered body temperature, and then waking up in the night feeling short of breath, weak, etc.
> >
> > What do you use as a body voltage meter?
> >
> > Thanks
> > K
> > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a really good question.
> > > If you don't mind, allow me to add my understanding of these points.
> > > Coming at this from knowing the frequencies of quite a few essential oils, I know that Rose Oil has a frequency of 320.
> > > With all the talk of "frequencies" on these ES sites, I've come to the conclusion that there really are two different definitions for frequency. One is those low elf or high elf emf's...measurable with certain meters. The other definition is more like the body's vibration, the chi energy.
> > > From researching the PH thing, what I've gotten is that the body's PH should be somewhere around 7, close to neutral. Under that means the body is acidic, and closer or above 7 means alkaline. Disease and unhealth can only thrive in an acidic body. Take an "accurate" PH reading of sick people and generally the PH will be 6 or under. Some believe really low PH levels, like 3 or 4 or prime environments for cancer. *By accurate, a reading taken first thing in the morning, spit in a spoon, dip the paper in the spoon...having taking no food or water prior to this reading. NOw for those who have tested their PH with urine, there seems to be a divided school of thought. Some believe urine will typically be lower, so that a 6.75 Urine reading will not necessary mean the body is acidic.
> > > **NOTE: I have often challenged my cell phone happy friends, especially those who are really into the PH testing, to test their PH in the morning, prior to any cell phone use, and then test their PH again, after using their cell phones. So far the results are that cell phones LOWER the body's PH. Which means radiaiton causes the body to turn acidic and it happens VERY QUICKLY.
> > > So raising the body's PH, because often it is low, (like 5.75 or 6 or 6.25 )which really means it is too acidic.- is a good thing. But I don't think raising the body's inner voltage is a good thing.
> > > I think anytime we are surrounded by bad emf's, (high ele fields, high magnetic fields, or radiation) this causes the body's voltage to go way up....and it should be kept low.
> > > I read somewhere that when people are surrounded by high ele or high magnetic fields, it causes the body to become "ungrounded". And when the body becomes ungrounded, it becomes much more susceptible to other emf's, like micro wave radiation. Whether this is true across the board, I don't know. But I do think that people who live in houses or spend alot of time in areas that have bad wiring or high magnetic fields, and this includes current in the water...I do think that this plays a large role in the ES conditon. I do not think it is the ONLY contributing factor, but I do think it plays a fairly large role. I also read a study by the Electrical INstitute on childhood Leukemia where the scientists found that children living under high tension lines (high magnetic fields) also had homes where they had current in the water. They called it "contact current" and I thought this was very interesting because we had high current in our water, and my daughter reacted to this water. Now that I keep her away from the sink, and any running water...she has made huge improvements. I keep 5 gal buckets filled with filtered water that is filled at night, when the current is the lowest, and I also treat the water using cosmic energy stones....So when she rinses a dish off, I keep a container in the sink filled with *this water, so she doesn't have to use tap water.
> > > **(some of you may remember that there was quite a stir about these stones in an earlier post). However, for the record, I have tested her body voltage using tap water, PUR filter, R/O filter, and using this treated water and she has totally different body voltage readings....If she uses any water from the tap, whether its the PUR filter, or the tap, her body voltage IS HIGH. if she uses the bucket water, her body voltage stays low.
> > > I don't know exactly how these stones work...but the results have been duplicated time and time again. And yes, what works for one may not work for another. I will make a point of stating that when using the stones, it is imperative to use ONLY filtered water. OUr water stays crystal clear for days on end, usng the stones. And because water is so truly important, I have an active experiment going on all the time with people I meet, who I have taste my water. So far, well over 25 people (I know that's not alot but its more then just my family) so far, every single one of them has said my water taste wonderful. Some of these people drink bottled water, some use the Britta filter, some use alkaline water, some use vortex water, some drink well water, and some use tap.
> > > I"ve also tested some friends who are cell phone happy, using the Body Voltage Meter...they all have HIGH body voltage. Is it a coincidence that they all have health issues? Some of these people had reading so high, it was off the charts on the meter!
> > > Lizzie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > From: evie15422@
> > > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:05:13 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, Andrew,
> > >
> > > I want to ask a question, but not in an argumentative way. I am asking because if I am wrong, I truly want to know I am wrong, so I do not spread disinformation.
> > >
> > > You mention it being necessary to "lower our body voltage". Do you know that to be fact, Andrew? I have gone on the assumption (and have been, personally, rewarded with better health and more tolerance to emfs by heeding this assumption) that I needed to raise my body's frequency/ voltage/ pH. Or maybe what you said and what you meant are not the same?
> > >
> > > I see it as this.... we start out with too low a voltage (also frequency and pH) and our bodies attract voltage from outside us, due to being too low. The "body voltage" we need to get rid of is the unnatural voltage we pick up from emfs, which are electron stealers. I do that--I sit and "ground" my body in places where I know the earth is pristinely free of ground currents and will carry my unwanted body pollutants away, while donating electrons back to me.
> > >
> > > However, at the same time, I have been actively working at raising my body's frequency/ cell voltage/ and pH to a more normal level. I have done this a number of ways: thru eating more nutritious, organic, and unprocessed foods, and a more vegetable diet; natural supplements of various kinds--mainly to help my liver and various organs which have shown damage; hydrogen supplementation; alkaline water; essential oils; herbs; detoxing out as many toxins as possible; frequent showers; salts soaks; gemstone necklaces with helpful frequencies; lots of green plants in my home; lots of nature walks/ hikes; other exercise (biking in nature, mini-tramp, pilates, beginners yoga, beginners QiGong).... the list is long.
> > >
> > > Long before I knew voltage and pH go hand in hand, I was working at raising my pH with the end-game of raising my body's frequency, which I had only guessed, was low. (I knew my pH was low from using pH test strips.) However, each of these things I changed or did was ultimately helpful and healthful to me. Each of these did raise my pH (and thus voltage, since voltage and pH automatically mirror one another.)
> > >
> > > So, I have been telling people privately to raise their voltage/ pH. Yes, this is an individual thing--people have to test pH to see if it is low in the first place. But you can see my dilemma here. I am saying the polar opposite from what you just wrote.
> > >
> > > Thanks, in advance, for your reply.
> > > Bless you,
> > > Diane
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:15 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I recommend a EMF FACE SHIELD KIT
> > > http://www.lessemf.com/computer.html
> > >
> > > if your eyes and face are the most problem. Having fabric touch the
> > > skin opens up a whole can of worms (electrical current, grounding, etc.)
> > >
> > > I have had success wearing the overcoat at airports, on planes with
> > > cell phones around, etc.
> > > http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
> > > because it for the most part doesn't touch my skin directly.
> > >
> > > There is much more to this story but if you can turn off as much power
> > > to the room as possible (lower the body voltage) then you're dealing
> > > mostly with just microwave/radio type radiation and not the electrical
> > > current or magnetic fields from being close to a monitor or laptop.
> > >
> > > One thing at a time.
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, valerie.kopach wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi ALL
> > > > Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> > > > lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> > > > and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> > > > hats.
> > > > I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> > > > something that will help me tolerate these things better.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> I actually have a long copper rod into the ground outside which isn't being used (an earthing rod).  (I've had a 'casing' built for my PC and it's earthed to a rod outside. This other one is the second one and I've been  meaning to earth it to that too, but haven't done so).
>
> So assuming there wasn't too much current on it, I could measure with my multi-meter.  But it just has its normal short leads, so I could only get a measurement whilst outside, would have to get longer leads for inside.  
>
> But that's just the multi-meter, not an ammeter.
>
> --- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, that pot of soil still has to be grounded to the actual earth for your experiment to work... so you're back to where you started.
> >
> > For a low cost version, I went to home depot and was lucky to find someone really smart, who guided me to get a short copper rod and ground wire.  The rod wasn't long, so I could push it into the earth without worrying about getting a drill.  Yet it was long enough for my experiment to work. (I compared it with the body voltage meter I bought, which used a ground plug into the electrical system, and the readings were at least comparable.)  Then you need some basic knowledge about stripping the green ground wire & crimping on the necessary connector so it can be plugged into your digital multi-meter.  The most expensive part is the digital multimeter (btw, clamp on ammeter is probably more expensive than multimeter).
> >
> > The electrician at home depot was cautioning that it was dangerous to measure against the ground of the electrical system since there could be voltage getting on it.  I did notice a slight shock once using the body voltage meter I bought and slightly swollen muscles, so maybe he is right... the earth is said to be safer.
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, I'm going to give you some links, to how I basically retrovitted a simple tool into a body voltage meter...the difference between spending 125 and a little more then 60 bucks.
> > > This  comes with leads that you can plug into the meter. So I got some rubber coated wire, 4 alligator clips- click on the picture, this is what I have for the alligator clips.
> > > I simply took my clamp ammeter and made it into a body voltage meter. But instead of using safeliving's way of putting the ground rod into the out side ground....which I don't think is a good idea, as I don't KNOW what kind of current is in my ground out there, and my intuition screamed at me, NOT to do it this...I did it a different way and I still believe (inspite of what others may say) that my readings are very useful as a guide. I don't need perfect accuracy...what I needed was a way to gauge whethr body voltage was UP or DOWN..and whether certain things increased body voltage or not. So I have a planter filled with soil, and a 6 in piece of copper rod, about a half inch wide...I put the copper rod into the middle of the soil, and attach the alligator clip to the top of this rod. YOu do have to make sure the soil in the planter is moist! So the leads that come with the ammeter are plugged in, and the alligator clips are attached to those leads...INteresting thing is that every cell phone heavy user I've tested, shows a Body Voltage reading off the charts!
> > > I just that www.lessemf.com also sells a Body Voltage Meter for 89 bucks. This may be an answer for some.
> > > I truly believe that whether its those who are on the grid and are connnected to city water, or those who live in places where there's current in the ground that would find its way to well water, or those who have antennas on their city's water towers, which would not only put current into the water, but the water ends up being irradiated...any or all of these make the water we bath in, wash dishes in, etc....have current in it. And although the effect is subtle for most people, it is NOT for my daughter.
> > > I can have days when I'm not around cell phones, do no errands, etc....forget and use the tap water, and I get very similiar symptoms from being exposed to current in the water, as when I'm exposed to cell phones/ wifi/ or even just cell phone toxic people.
> > > HOpe this helps.
> > > Lizzie
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > > Bikemaster Alligator Clips<
> > >
> > > jpg - 124 × 124 - 3k
> > > www.motorcycle-superstore.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PDF]
> > > Body Voltage Home Test Kit  
> > > File Format:- Block all safelivingtechnologies.ca results
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Not helpful? You can block safelivingtechnologies.ca results when you're signed in to search.safelivingtechnologies.caPDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick ViewConnect one end of the red wire to the jack of the Body Voltage Meter labeled ... Press in the orange "Power" button to turn on the Body Voltage Meter ...www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/.../BV_Home_Measuring%20Instructions.pdf
> > > Klein Tools 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp - CL200 at ...
> > > Get the Klein Tools, Inc. 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp CL200, 3 AAA- Alkaline batteries included features an automatic shut-off that helps to ...www.homedepot.com/Electrical.../Klein Tools 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp
> > >
> > > Model # CL200
> > > Internet # 202521277
> > > Store SKU # 363142
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> > >  
> > >
> > > $59.95 /EA-Each
> > > $59.95 /EA-Each
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > From: kikkiehealth@
> > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:16:36 +0000
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Shielding
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Lizzie
> > >
> > > That was a very interesting post.
> > >
> > > Especially the part where you said about people turning acid very quickly after using their cell phones.
> > >
> > > I also feel EMF makes me go extremely acidic (even have what feels like GERD from it), so much so that I sometimes drink baking soda afterwards to feel better. I've googled EMF sensitivity and acidosis (and lactic acidosis) quite a bit and found quite a few 'hits'.
> > >
> > > I also think (as posted before) the mast cells are involved here, and they degranulate when exposed to EMF, also leading to acidity in some or other way. Every time I get EMFed (but also sometimes from other triggers such as the dog or anything acidic I eat or drink) the skin on my chest starts burning, and then I know I'm in for the whole cascade of reactions - low blood sugar, fatigue, 'acidity', lowered body temperature, and then waking up in the night feeling short of breath, weak, etc.
> > >
> > > What do you use as a body voltage meter?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > K
> > > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is a really good question.
> > > > If you don't mind, allow me to add my understanding of these points.
> > > > Coming at this from knowing the frequencies of quite a few essential oils, I know that Rose Oil has a frequency of 320.
> > > > With all the talk of "frequencies" on these ES sites, I've come to the conclusion that there really are two different definitions for frequency. One is those low elf or high elf emf's...measurable with certain meters. The other definition is more like the body's vibration, the chi energy.
> > > > From researching the PH thing, what I've gotten is that the body's PH should be somewhere around 7, close to neutral. Under that means the body is acidic, and closer or above 7 means alkaline. Disease and unhealth can only thrive in an acidic body. Take an "accurate" PH reading of sick people and generally the PH will be 6 or under. Some believe really low PH levels, like 3 or 4 or prime environments for cancer. *By accurate, a reading taken first thing in the morning, spit in a spoon, dip the paper in the spoon...having taking no food or water prior to this reading. NOw for those who have tested their PH with urine, there seems to be a divided school of thought. Some believe urine will typically be lower, so that a 6.75 Urine reading will not necessary mean the body is acidic.
> > > > **NOTE: I have often challenged my cell phone happy friends, especially those who are really into the PH testing, to test their PH in the morning, prior to any cell phone use, and then test their PH again, after using their cell phones. So far the results are that cell phones LOWER the body's PH. Which means radiaiton causes the body to turn acidic and it happens VERY QUICKLY.
> > > > So raising the body's PH, because often it is low, (like 5.75 or 6 or 6.25 )which really means it is too acidic.- is a good thing. But I don't think raising the body's inner voltage is a good thing.
> > > > I think anytime we are surrounded by bad emf's, (high ele fields, high magnetic fields, or radiation) this causes the body's voltage to go way up....and it should be kept low.
> > > > I read somewhere that when people are surrounded by high ele or high magnetic fields, it causes the body to become "ungrounded". And when the body becomes ungrounded, it becomes much more susceptible to other emf's, like micro wave radiation. Whether this is true across the board, I don't know. But I do think that people who live in houses or spend alot of time in areas that have bad wiring or high magnetic fields, and this includes current in the water...I do think that this plays a large role in the ES conditon. I do not think it is the ONLY contributing factor, but I do think it plays a fairly large role. I also read a study by the Electrical INstitute on childhood Leukemia where the scientists found that children living under high tension lines (high magnetic fields) also had homes where they had current in the water. They called it "contact current" and I thought this was very interesting because we had high current in our water, and my daughter reacted to this water. Now that I keep her away from the sink, and any running water...she has made huge improvements. I keep 5 gal buckets filled with filtered water that is filled at night, when the current is the lowest, and I also treat the water using cosmic energy stones....So when she rinses a dish off, I keep a container in the sink filled with *this water, so she doesn't have to use tap water.
> > > > **(some of you may remember that there was quite a stir about these stones in an earlier post). However, for the record, I have tested her body voltage using tap water, PUR filter, R/O filter, and using this treated water and she has totally different body voltage readings....If she uses any water from the tap, whether its the PUR filter, or the tap, her body voltage IS HIGH. if she uses the bucket water, her body voltage stays low.
> > > > I don't know exactly how these stones work...but the results have been duplicated time and time again. And yes, what works for one may not work for another. I will make a point of stating that when using the stones, it is imperative to use ONLY filtered water. OUr water stays crystal clear for days on end, usng the stones. And because water is so truly important, I have an active experiment going on all the time with people I meet, who I have taste my water. So far, well over 25 people (I know that's not alot but its more then just my family) so far, every single one of them has said my water taste wonderful. Some of these people drink bottled water, some use the Britta filter, some use alkaline water, some use vortex water, some drink well water, and some use tap.
> > > > I"ve also tested some friends who are cell phone happy, using the Body Voltage Meter...they all have HIGH body voltage. Is it a coincidence that they all have health issues? Some of these people had reading so high, it was off the charts on the meter!
> > > > Lizzie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > From: evie15422@
> > > > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:05:13 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > I want to ask a question, but not in an argumentative way. I am asking because if I am wrong, I truly want to know I am wrong, so I do not spread disinformation.
> > > >
> > > > You mention it being necessary to "lower our body voltage". Do you know that to be fact, Andrew? I have gone on the assumption (and have been, personally, rewarded with better health and more tolerance to emfs by heeding this assumption) that I needed to raise my body's frequency/ voltage/ pH. Or maybe what you said and what you meant are not the same?
> > > >
> > > > I see it as this.... we start out with too low a voltage (also frequency and pH) and our bodies attract voltage from outside us, due to being too low. The "body voltage" we need to get rid of is the unnatural voltage we pick up from emfs, which are electron stealers. I do that--I sit and "ground" my body in places where I know the earth is pristinely free of ground currents and will carry my unwanted body pollutants away, while donating electrons back to me.
> > > >
> > > > However, at the same time, I have been actively working at raising my body's frequency/ cell voltage/ and pH to a more normal level. I have done this a number of ways: thru eating more nutritious, organic, and unprocessed foods, and a more vegetable diet; natural supplements of various kinds--mainly to help my liver and various organs which have shown damage; hydrogen supplementation; alkaline water; essential oils; herbs; detoxing out as many toxins as possible; frequent showers; salts soaks; gemstone necklaces with helpful frequencies; lots of green plants in my home; lots of nature walks/ hikes; other exercise (biking in nature, mini-tramp, pilates, beginners yoga, beginners QiGong).... the list is long.
> > > >
> > > > Long before I knew voltage and pH go hand in hand, I was working at raising my pH with the end-game of raising my body's frequency, which I had only guessed, was low. (I knew my pH was low from using pH test strips.) However, each of these things I changed or did was ultimately helpful and healthful to me. Each of these did raise my pH (and thus voltage, since voltage and pH automatically mirror one another.)
> > > >
> > > > So, I have been telling people privately to raise their voltage/ pH. Yes, this is an individual thing--people have to test pH to see if it is low in the first place. But you can see my dilemma here. I am saying the polar opposite from what you just wrote.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, in advance, for your reply.
> > > > Bless you,
> > > > Diane
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@>
> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:15 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I recommend a EMF FACE SHIELD KIT
> > > > http://www.lessemf.com/computer.html
> > > >
> > > > if your eyes and face are the most problem. Having fabric touch the
> > > > skin opens up a whole can of worms (electrical current, grounding, etc.)
> > > >
> > > > I have had success wearing the overcoat at airports, on planes with
> > > > cell phones around, etc.
> > > > http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
> > > > because it for the most part doesn't touch my skin directly.
> > > >
> > > > There is much more to this story but if you can turn off as much power
> > > > to the room as possible (lower the body voltage) then you're dealing
> > > > mostly with just microwave/radio type radiation and not the electrical
> > > > current or magnetic fields from being close to a monitor or laptop.
> > > >
> > > > One thing at a time.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck!
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, valerie.kopach wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi ALL
> > > > > Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> > > > > lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> > > > > and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> > > > > hats.
> > > > > I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> > > > > something that will help me tolerate these things better.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
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>
> The multimeter is on the AC setting.
>
> --- In [hidden email], "kikkie2004" <kikkiehealth@> wrote:
> >
> > Question re multimeter:
> >
> > Hi again.
> >
> > Must the multimeter be on it's DCV or ACV setting?
> >
> > Thanks
> > K
>

>
>
> Thanks, I'm going to give you some links, to how I basically retrovitted a simple tool into a body voltage meter...the difference between spending 125 and a little more then 60 bucks.
> This comes with leads that you can plug into the meter. So I got some rubber coated wire, 4 alligator clips- click on the picture, this is what I have for the alligator clips.
> I simply took my clamp ammeter and made it into a body voltage meter. But instead of using safeliving's way of putting the ground rod into the out side ground....which I don't think is a good idea, as I don't KNOW what kind of current is in my ground out there, and my intuition screamed at me, NOT to do it this...I did it a different way and I still believe (inspite of what others may say) that my readings are very useful as a guide. I don't need perfect accuracy...what I needed was a way to gauge whethr body voltage was UP or DOWN..and whether certain things increased body voltage or not. So I have a planter filled with soil, and a 6 in piece of copper rod, about a half inch wide...I put the copper rod into the middle of the soil, and attach the alligator clip to the top of this rod. YOu do have to make sure the soil in the planter is moist! So the leads that come with the ammeter are plugged in, and the alligator clips are attached to those leads...INteresting thing is that every cell phone heavy user I've tested, shows a Body Voltage reading off the charts!
> I just that www.lessemf.com also sells a Body Voltage Meter for 89 bucks. This may be an answer for some.
> I truly believe that whether its those who are on the grid and are connnected to city water, or those who live in places where there's current in the ground that would find its way to well water, or those who have antennas on their city's water towers, which would not only put current into the water, but the water ends up being irradiated...any or all of these make the water we bath in, wash dishes in, etc....have current in it. And although the effect is subtle for most people, it is NOT for my daughter.
> I can have days when I'm not around cell phones, do no errands, etc....forget and use the tap water, and I get very similiar symptoms from being exposed to current in the water, as when I'm exposed to cell phones/ wifi/ or even just cell phone toxic people.
> HOpe this helps.
> Lizzie
>
>
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> Bikemaster Alligator Clips<
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> jpg - 124 × 124 - 3k
> www.motorcycle-superstore.com
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> PDF]
> Body Voltage Home Test Kit
> File Format:- Block all safelivingtechnologies.ca results
>
>
>
> Not helpful? You can block safelivingtechnologies.ca results when you're signed in to search.safelivingtechnologies.caPDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick ViewConnect one end of the red wire to the jack of the Body Voltage Meter labeled ... Press in the orange "Power" button to turn on the Body Voltage Meter ...www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/.../BV_Home_Measuring%20Instructions.pdf
> Klein Tools 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp - CL200 at ...
> Get the Klein Tools, Inc. 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp CL200, 3 AAA- Alkaline batteries included features an automatic shut-off that helps to ...www.homedepot.com/Electrical.../Klein Tools 600 amp AC Digital Clamp Meter with Temp
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> Model # CL200
> Internet # 202521277
> Store SKU # 363142
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> To: [hidden email]
> From: kikkiehealth@...
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:16:36 +0000
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Shielding
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Lizzie
>
> That was a very interesting post.
>
> Especially the part where you said about people turning acid very quickly after using their cell phones.
>
> I also feel EMF makes me go extremely acidic (even have what feels like GERD from it), so much so that I sometimes drink baking soda afterwards to feel better. I've googled EMF sensitivity and acidosis (and lactic acidosis) quite a bit and found quite a few 'hits'.
>
> I also think (as posted before) the mast cells are involved here, and they degranulate when exposed to EMF, also leading to acidity in some or other way. Every time I get EMFed (but also sometimes from other triggers such as the dog or anything acidic I eat or drink) the skin on my chest starts burning, and then I know I'm in for the whole cascade of reactions - low blood sugar, fatigue, 'acidity', lowered body temperature, and then waking up in the night feeling short of breath, weak, etc.
>
> What do you use as a body voltage meter?
>
> Thanks
> K
> --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This is a really good question.
> > If you don't mind, allow me to add my understanding of these points.
> > Coming at this from knowing the frequencies of quite a few essential oils, I know that Rose Oil has a frequency of 320.
> > With all the talk of "frequencies" on these ES sites, I've come to the conclusion that there really are two different definitions for frequency. One is those low elf or high elf emf's...measurable with certain meters. The other definition is more like the body's vibration, the chi energy.
> > From researching the PH thing, what I've gotten is that the body's PH should be somewhere around 7, close to neutral. Under that means the body is acidic, and closer or above 7 means alkaline. Disease and unhealth can only thrive in an acidic body. Take an "accurate" PH reading of sick people and generally the PH will be 6 or under. Some believe really low PH levels, like 3 or 4 or prime environments for cancer. *By accurate, a reading taken first thing in the morning, spit in a spoon, dip the paper in the spoon...having taking no food or water prior to this reading. NOw for those who have tested their PH with urine, there seems to be a divided school of thought. Some believe urine will typically be lower, so that a 6.75 Urine reading will not necessary mean the body is acidic.
> > **NOTE: I have often challenged my cell phone happy friends, especially those who are really into the PH testing, to test their PH in the morning, prior to any cell phone use, and then test their PH again, after using their cell phones. So far the results are that cell phones LOWER the body's PH. Which means radiaiton causes the body to turn acidic and it happens VERY QUICKLY.
> > So raising the body's PH, because often it is low, (like 5.75 or 6 or 6.25 )which really means it is too acidic.- is a good thing. But I don't think raising the body's inner voltage is a good thing.
> > I think anytime we are surrounded by bad emf's, (high ele fields, high magnetic fields, or radiation) this causes the body's voltage to go way up....and it should be kept low.
> > I read somewhere that when people are surrounded by high ele or high magnetic fields, it causes the body to become "ungrounded". And when the body becomes ungrounded, it becomes much more susceptible to other emf's, like micro wave radiation. Whether this is true across the board, I don't know. But I do think that people who live in houses or spend alot of time in areas that have bad wiring or high magnetic fields, and this includes current in the water...I do think that this plays a large role in the ES conditon. I do not think it is the ONLY contributing factor, but I do think it plays a fairly large role. I also read a study by the Electrical INstitute on childhood Leukemia where the scientists found that children living under high tension lines (high magnetic fields) also had homes where they had current in the water. They called it "contact current" and I thought this was very interesting because we had high current in our water, and my daughter reacted to this water. Now that I keep her away from the sink, and any running water...she has made huge improvements. I keep 5 gal buckets filled with filtered water that is filled at night, when the current is the lowest, and I also treat the water using cosmic energy stones....So when she rinses a dish off, I keep a container in the sink filled with *this water, so she doesn't have to use tap water.
> > **(some of you may remember that there was quite a stir about these stones in an earlier post). However, for the record, I have tested her body voltage using tap water, PUR filter, R/O filter, and using this treated water and she has totally different body voltage readings....If she uses any water from the tap, whether its the PUR filter, or the tap, her body voltage IS HIGH. if she uses the bucket water, her body voltage stays low.
> > I don't know exactly how these stones work...but the results have been duplicated time and time again. And yes, what works for one may not work for another. I will make a point of stating that when using the stones, it is imperative to use ONLY filtered water. OUr water stays crystal clear for days on end, usng the stones. And because water is so truly important, I have an active experiment going on all the time with people I meet, who I have taste my water. So far, well over 25 people (I know that's not alot but its more then just my family) so far, every single one of them has said my water taste wonderful. Some of these people drink bottled water, some use the Britta filter, some use alkaline water, some use vortex water, some drink well water, and some use tap.
> > I"ve also tested some friends who are cell phone happy, using the Body Voltage Meter...they all have HIGH body voltage. Is it a coincidence that they all have health issues? Some of these people had reading so high, it was off the charts on the meter!
> > Lizzie
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> > To: [hidden email]
> > From: evie15422@
> > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:05:13 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
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> > Hi, Andrew,
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> > I want to ask a question, but not in an argumentative way. I am asking because if I am wrong, I truly want to know I am wrong, so I do not spread disinformation.
> >
> > You mention it being necessary to "lower our body voltage". Do you know that to be fact, Andrew? I have gone on the assumption (and have been, personally, rewarded with better health and more tolerance to emfs by heeding this assumption) that I needed to raise my body's frequency/ voltage/ pH. Or maybe what you said and what you meant are not the same?
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> > I see it as this.... we start out with too low a voltage (also frequency and pH) and our bodies attract voltage from outside us, due to being too low. The "body voltage" we need to get rid of is the unnatural voltage we pick up from emfs, which are electron stealers. I do that--I sit and "ground" my body in places where I know the earth is pristinely free of ground currents and will carry my unwanted body pollutants away, while donating electrons back to me.
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> > However, at the same time, I have been actively working at raising my body's frequency/ cell voltage/ and pH to a more normal level. I have done this a number of ways: thru eating more nutritious, organic, and unprocessed foods, and a more vegetable diet; natural supplements of various kinds--mainly to help my liver and various organs which have shown damage; hydrogen supplementation; alkaline water; essential oils; herbs; detoxing out as many toxins as possible; frequent showers; salts soaks; gemstone necklaces with helpful frequencies; lots of green plants in my home; lots of nature walks/ hikes; other exercise (biking in nature, mini-tramp, pilates, beginners yoga, beginners QiGong).... the list is long.
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> > Long before I knew voltage and pH go hand in hand, I was working at raising my pH with the end-game of raising my body's frequency, which I had only guessed, was low. (I knew my pH was low from using pH test strips.) However, each of these things I changed or did was ultimately helpful and healthful to me. Each of these did raise my pH (and thus voltage, since voltage and pH automatically mirror one another.)
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> > So, I have been telling people privately to raise their voltage/ pH. Yes, this is an individual thing--people have to test pH to see if it is low in the first place. But you can see my dilemma here. I am saying the polar opposite from what you just wrote.
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> > Thanks, in advance, for your reply.
> > Bless you,
> > Diane
> >
> > --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@> wrote:
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> > From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Shielding
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:15 PM
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> > I recommend a EMF FACE SHIELD KIT
> > http://www.lessemf.com/computer.html
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> > if your eyes and face are the most problem. Having fabric touch the
> > skin opens up a whole can of worms (electrical current, grounding, etc.)
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> > I have had success wearing the overcoat at airports, on planes with
> > cell phones around, etc.
> > http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
> > because it for the most part doesn't touch my skin directly.
> >
> > There is much more to this story but if you can turn off as much power
> > to the room as possible (lower the body voltage) then you're dealing
> > mostly with just microwave/radio type radiation and not the electrical
> > current or magnetic fields from being close to a monitor or laptop.
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> > One thing at a time.
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> > Good luck!
> > Andrew
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> > On May 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, valerie.kopach wrote:
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> > > Hi ALL
> > > Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> > > lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> > > and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> > > hats.
> > > I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> > > something that will help me tolerate these things better.
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> Hi ALL
> Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> hats.
> I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> something that will help me tolerate these things better.
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> Hi ALL
> Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> hats.
> I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> something that will help me tolerate these things better.
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> Hi ALL
> Was wondering if anybody has had success with shielding from
> lessemf.com. They have shielding fabric made of cotton and copper,
> and then another shielding made of silver, which can be used to line
> hats.
> I have trouble at my computer and watching TV. I am hoping to find
> something that will help me tolerate these things better.
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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