I consider shielding my home, at least the bedroom to decrease present RF levels from nearby mobile base stations etc at 5-10 microW/m2.
However, I am aware shielding also increases the beneficial influence from the natural EMF signals. Isn't that a problem when shielding? Can it be prevented - e.g. by shielding only some parts of a bedroom (windows, ceilings and may be walls and exclude shielding the floor)? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I consider shielding my home, at least the bedroom to decrease present RF levels from nearby mobile base stations etc at 5-10 microW/m2.
However, I am aware shielding also decreases the beneficial influence from the natural EMF signals. Isn't that a problem when shielding? Can it be prevented - e.g. by shielding only some parts of a bedroom (windows, ceilings and may be walls and exclude shielding the floor)? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hello Nikolaj,
5-10 uW/m2 is not so much. I encounter sometimes 1.000 to 11.000 uW/m2 But for a bedroom 0,1-1 uW/m2 is preferable. You could start with these socalled thermo blankets, one side silver, the other side gold. Stick them to your curtains of you bedroom, and measure again. The natural EMF signals may come through the ceiling and floor. If everything is packed and shielded, a small Schumann frequency generator (on a 9 V batterie) may help. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 17:11 Subject: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! I consider shielding my home, at least the bedroom to decrease present RF levels from nearby mobile base stations etc at 5-10 microW/m2. However, I am aware shielding also decreases the beneficial influence from the natural EMF signals. Isn't that a problem when shielding? Can it be prevented - e.g. by shielding only some parts of a bedroom (windows, ceilings and may be walls and exclude shielding the floor)? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links |
(Put the silver side out.)
Niels ----- Original Message ----- From: charles To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! Hello Nikolaj, 5-10 uW/m2 is not so much. I encounter sometimes 1.000 to 11.000 uW/m2 But for a bedroom 0,1-1 uW/m2 is preferable. You could start with these socalled thermo blankets, one side silver, the other side gold. Stick them to your curtains of you bedroom, and measure again. The natural EMF signals may come through the ceiling and floor. If everything is packed and shielded, a small Schumann frequency generator (on a 9 V batterie) may help. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 17:11 Subject: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! I consider shielding my home, at least the bedroom to decrease present RF levels from nearby mobile base stations etc at 5-10 microW/m2. However, I am aware shielding also decreases the beneficial influence from the natural EMF signals. Isn't that a problem when shielding? Can it be prevented - e.g. by shielding only some parts of a bedroom (windows, ceilings and may be walls and exclude shielding the floor)? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I actually tried the rescue blankets last week on my windows in the bedroom.
I have the HF measuring equipment from Aaronia, and noticed a decrease in RF/MW radiation by 15 dB's directly on the spot (difference between the two sides of the blanket), corresponding to 5-10 dB in the bed. However, I didn't like the feeling - might reacted somewhat allergical to the metals in the blankets. Does the "gold" side contain copper? After all, the air quality was not good, so I removed it again. Now, I will try with plain chicken wire, as the mash size should be sufficiently small to absorb RF/MW radiation. Anyone tried this? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann ----- Original Message ----- From: Niels Geurts To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! (Put the silver side out.) Niels ----- Original Message ----- From: charles To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! Hello Nikolaj, 5-10 uW/m2 is not so much. I encounter sometimes 1.000 to 11.000 uW/m2 But for a bedroom 0,1-1 uW/m2 is preferable. You could start with these socalled thermo blankets, one side silver, the other side gold. Stick them to your curtains of you bedroom, and measure again. The natural EMF signals may come through the ceiling and floor. If everything is packed and shielded, a small Schumann frequency generator (on a 9 V batterie) may help. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 17:11 Subject: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" insteadof "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! I consider shielding my home, at least the bedroom to decrease present RF levels from nearby mobile base stations etc at 5-10 microW/m2. However, I am aware shielding also decreases the beneficial influence from the natural EMF signals. Isn't that a problem when shielding? Can it be prevented - e.g. by shielding only some parts of a bedroom (windows, ceilings and may be walls and exclude shielding the floor)? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hello Nikolaj,
no, chicken wire is not good enough, the meshes are too wide. The least is the socalled *voliere wire*, here the wire is 0.8 mm thick, and the openings are 12 x 12 mm. Normally, the rescue blankets shield ca 40 dB. With your HF meter from Aaronia, you cannot measure dB. You read dBm. That is something different. And 15 dBm difference is quite a lot, depending from the number ! As an example, if you go from - 20 dBm to -30 dBm, that means from 1200 uW/m2 to 120 uW/m2, that is a hell of a lot reduction. If you go from -43 to -53dBm, you got from 6.1 uW/m2 to 0.61 uW/m2 If you go from -51 dBm to -60 dBm, you got from 0.96 uW/m2 to 0.12 uW/m2 Otherwise, in a livingroom the max is -30 dBm (= 120 uW/m2 = 0.21 V/m) and in a bedroom -51 dBm (= 0.96 uW/m2 = 0.019 V/m) is preferable. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:35 Subject: [eSens] Re: Shielding with rescue blankets I actually tried the rescue blankets last week on my windows in the bedroom. I have the HF measuring equipment from Aaronia, and noticed a decrease in RF/MW radiation by 15 dB's directly on the spot (difference between the two sides of the blanket), corresponding to 5-10 dB in the bed. However, I didn't like the feeling - might reacted somewhat allergical to the metals in the blankets. Does the "gold" side contain copper? After all, the air quality was not good, so I removed it again. Now, I will try with plain chicken wire, as the mash size should be sufficiently small to absorb RF/MW radiation. Anyone tried this? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann ----- Original Message ----- From: Niels Geurts To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! (Put the silver side out.) Niels ----- Original Message ----- From: charles To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! Hello Nikolaj, 5-10 uW/m2 is not so much. I encounter sometimes 1.000 to 11.000 uW/m2 But for a bedroom 0,1-1 uW/m2 is preferable. You could start with these socalled thermo blankets, one side silver, the other side gold. Stick them to your curtains of you bedroom, and measure again. The natural EMF signals may come through the ceiling and floor. If everything is packed and shielded, a small Schumann frequency generator (on a 9 V batterie) may help. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 17:11 Subject: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! I consider shielding my home, at least the bedroom to decrease present RF levels from nearby mobile base stations etc at 5-10 microW/m2. However, I am aware shielding also decreases the beneficial influence from the natural EMF signals. Isn't that a problem when shielding? Can it be prevented - e.g. by shielding only some parts of a bedroom (windows, ceilings and may be walls and exclude shielding the floor)? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ---- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! 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Hi Charles,
How come the chicken wire don't work, as long as the mesh size is smaller than a half wavelength? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann ----- Original Message ----- From: charles To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Shielding with rescue blankets Hello Nikolaj, no, chicken wire is not good enough, the meshes are too wide. The least is the socalled *voliere wire*, here the wire is 0.8 mm thick, and the openings are 12 x 12 mm. Normally, the rescue blankets shield ca 40 dB. With your HF meter from Aaronia, you cannot measure dB. You read dBm. That is something different. And 15 dBm difference is quite a lot, depending from the number ! As an example, if you go from - 20 dBm to -30 dBm, that means from 1200 uW/m2 to 120 uW/m2, that is a hell of a lot reduction. If you go from -43 to -53dBm, you got from 6.1 uW/m2 to 0.61 uW/m2 If you go from -51 dBm to -60 dBm, you got from 0.96 uW/m2 to 0.12 uW/m2 Otherwise, in a livingroom the max is -30 dBm (= 120 uW/m2 = 0.21 V/m) and in a bedroom -51 dBm (= 0.96 uW/m2 = 0.019 V/m) is preferable. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:35 Subject: [eSens] Re: Shielding with rescue blankets I actually tried the rescue blankets last week on my windows in the bedroom. I have the HF measuring equipment from Aaronia, and noticed a decrease in RF/MW radiation by 15 dB's directly on the spot (difference between the two sides of the blanket), corresponding to 5-10 dB in the bed. However, I didn't like the feeling - might reacted somewhat allergical to the metals in the blankets. Does the "gold" side contain copper? After all, the air quality was not good, so I removed it again. Now, I will try with plain chicken wire, as the mash size should be sufficiently small to absorb RF/MW radiation. Anyone tried this? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann ----- Original Message ----- From: Niels Geurts To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! (Put the silver side out.) Niels ----- Original Message ----- From: charles To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! Hello Nikolaj, 5-10 uW/m2 is not so much. I encounter sometimes 1.000 to 11.000 uW/m2 But for a bedroom 0,1-1 uW/m2 is preferable. You could start with these socalled thermo blankets, one side silver, the other side gold. Stick them to your curtains of you bedroom, and measure again. The natural EMF signals may come through the ceiling and floor. If everything is packed and shielded, a small Schumann frequency generator (on a 9 V batterie) may help. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 17:11 Subject: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - Sorry! I consider shielding my home, at least the bedroom to decrease present RF levels from nearby mobile base stations etc at 5-10 microW/m2. However, I am aware shielding also decreases the beneficial influence from the natural EMF signals. Isn't that a problem when shielding? Can it be prevented - e.g. by shielding only some parts of a bedroom (windows, ceilings and may be walls and exclude shielding the floor)? Nikolaj - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email [hidden email] www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ---- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! 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Hi Nikolaj and Charles,
of course chicken wire work! /Anders Nikolaj Holtermann wrote: > Hi Charles, > > How come the chicken wire don't work, as long as the mesh size is smaller than a half wavelength? > > Nikolaj > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Nikolaj Holtermann, > cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent > Rosengården 14, 3.tv > DK - 1174 København K > tlf 33930070 > email [hidden email] > www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) > http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: charles > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Shielding with rescue blankets > > > Hello Nikolaj, > > no, chicken wire is not good enough, the meshes are too wide. > The least is the socalled *voliere wire*, here the wire is 0.8 mm thick, and > the openings are 12 x 12 mm. > > Normally, the rescue blankets shield ca 40 dB. > > With your HF meter from Aaronia, you cannot measure dB. > > You read dBm. That is something different. > And 15 dBm difference is quite a lot, depending from the number ! > As an example, if you go from - 20 dBm to -30 dBm, that means from 1200 > uW/m2 to 120 uW/m2, that is a hell of a lot reduction. > If you go from -43 to -53dBm, you got from 6.1 uW/m2 to 0.61 uW/m2 > If you go from -51 dBm to -60 dBm, you got from 0.96 uW/m2 to 0.12 uW/m2 > > Otherwise, in a livingroom the max is -30 dBm (= 120 uW/m2 = 0.21 V/m) and > in a bedroom -51 dBm (= 0.96 uW/m2 = 0.019 V/m) is preferable. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ > http://www.hese-project.org > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:35 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Shielding with rescue blankets > > > I actually tried the rescue blankets last week on my windows in the bedroom. > I have the HF measuring equipment from Aaronia, and noticed a decrease in > RF/MW radiation by 15 dB's directly on the spot (difference between the two > sides of the blanket), corresponding to 5-10 dB in the bed. > > However, I didn't like the feeling - might reacted somewhat allergical to > the metals in the blankets. Does the "gold" side contain copper? After all, > the air quality was not good, so I removed it again. > > Now, I will try with plain chicken wire, as the mash size should be > sufficiently small to absorb RF/MW radiation. Anyone tried this? > > Nikolaj > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Nikolaj Holtermann, > cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent > Rosengården 14, 3.tv > DK - 1174 København K > tlf 33930070 > email [hidden email] > www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) > http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Niels Geurts > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" > instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM > signals - Sorry! > > > (Put the silver side out.) > > Niels > ----- Original Message ----- > From: charles > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" > instead of "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM > signals - Sorry! > > > Hello Nikolaj, > > 5-10 uW/m2 is not so much. > I encounter sometimes 1.000 to 11.000 uW/m2 > But for a bedroom 0,1-1 uW/m2 is preferable. > You could start with these socalled thermo blankets, one side silver, > the > other side gold. > Stick them to your curtains of you bedroom, and measure again. > The natural EMF signals may come through the ceiling and floor. > If everything is packed and shielded, a small Schumann frequency > generator > (on a 9 V batterie) may help. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ > http://www.hese-project.org > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 17:11 > Subject: Uuups error in previous mail - it should be "decrease" instead > of > "increase" Re: [eSens] Shielding and beneficial natural EM signals - > Sorry! > > > I consider shielding my home, at least the bedroom to decrease present > RF > levels from nearby mobile base stations etc at 5-10 microW/m2. > > However, I am aware shielding also decreases the beneficial influence > from > the natural EMF signals. Isn't that a problem when shielding? Can it be > prevented - e.g. by shielding only some parts of a bedroom (windows, > ceilings and may be walls and exclude shielding the floor)? > > Nikolaj > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Nikolaj Holtermann, > cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent > Rosengården 14, 3.tv > DK - 1174 København K > tlf 33930070 > email [hidden email] > www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) > http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > ---- > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [hidden email] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Hello Nikolaj,
Chicken wire does something, but largely not enough. I estimate something like 3-5 dB. Those HF waves are very naughty. They just fly through. The hole smust be as small as possible. The best is these fly-wire, but in front of a window, you won't see anything. I tried several materials, and in the beginning, I was satisfied with this birds-wire of 12x12 mm opening. But since they put extra gsm senders on top of the existing masts, (we face some five masts) the radiation has been higher, and I was forced to place other material in front of this wire. You may look at ISPO Gewebe, or Armierungsgewebe z.B. Glasseidengewebe G-ES at Biologa or Priggen. Or the Diamant Gewebe from Biloga/Priggen. Of course in front of windows, a transparaent film, like RDF is the best, but it costs. Therefore my advice for the thermo blanket in the bedroom. It is the cheapest thing available. Met vriendelijke groeten, Charles Claessens lid Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org gekontroleerd door Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaj Holtermann" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 14:00 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Shielding with rescue blankets Hi Charles, How come the chicken wire don't work, as long as the mesh size is smaller than a half wavelength? Nikolaj |
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