Seattle area EMF activists -- can someone measure a Smart Meter for me?

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Seattle area EMF activists -- can someone measure a Smart Meter for me?

lolahunt3
Dear Group,

I am urgently looking for someone in the Seattle area, who has an RF meter, who can measure the Smart Meters for me.  I was told by so many people that the meters only transmit one time per day, and was horrified to learn, on Friday, that they actually transmit every 10 to 15 min., and that they are 100% installed there, even on the more rural Kitsap Peninsula.  I need to know if they do, in fact, transmit at that frequency, or if the meters are communicating with each other all the time, like they do here (San Francisco Bay Area).

There will be 2 Smart Meters on my new home there -- one 10 feet from my unit, and one a bit further away.  This is horrible news for me.

If you are in the Seattle area and have an RF meter, or know someone who does, could you please let me know?

Finally, if you know any emf remediation specialists in that area, could you please give me their contact info?

Thanks,
Sue



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Re: Seattle area EMF activists -- can someone measure a Smart Meter for me?

Marc Martin
Administrator
> I am urgently looking for someone in the Seattle area, who has an RF meter,
> who can measure the Smart Meters for me.  I was told by so many people that
> the meters only transmit one time per day, and was horrified to learn, on
> Friday, that they actually transmit every 10 to 15 min., and that they are
> 100% installed there, even on the more rural Kitsap Peninsula.

100% installed?  I don't think ANYONE in Seattle has a Smart Meter.  They
are testing them at the University of Washington, I believe, but that's
it.

But I saw on that MoveOn petition that someone was complaining about
Smart Meters in Issaquah, WA, so it must vary city-by-city.

Marc
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Re: Seattle area EMF activists -- can someone measure a Smart Meter for me?

lolahunt3
The Puget Sound Energy district is 100% installed.  That includes my new town, Poulsbo, on Kitsap Peninsula, directly west of Seattle.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

>
> > I am urgently looking for someone in the Seattle area, who has an RF meter,
> > who can measure the Smart Meters for me.  I was told by so many people that
> > the meters only transmit one time per day, and was horrified to learn, on
> > Friday, that they actually transmit every 10 to 15 min., and that they are
> > 100% installed there, even on the more rural Kitsap Peninsula.
>
> 100% installed?  I don't think ANYONE in Seattle has a Smart Meter.  They
> are testing them at the University of Washington, I believe, but that's
> it.
>
> But I saw on that MoveOn petition that someone was complaining about
> Smart Meters in Issaquah, WA, so it must vary city-by-city.
>
> Marc
>


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Re: Seattle area EMF activists -- can someone measure a Smart Meter for me?

Marc Martin
Administrator
> The Puget Sound Energy district is 100% installed.  That includes my new
> town, Poulsbo, on Kitsap Peninsula, directly west of Seattle.

And I take it you already know that PSE is your electric utility company
where you're moving?  My admittedly brief Google search on Poulsbo says
that Pacific Power is the electric utility company.  PSE may just be natural
gas -- and the PSE natural gas Smart Meters seem pretty harmless (we've
got one on our house -- it looks like it might be battery powered)

Marc
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Re: Seattle area EMF activists -- can someone measure a Smart Meter for me?

Elizabeth thode

Marc, with all due respect, the other day you posted that you stood next to a smart meter,
and it didn't bother you. I'm happy for you that you aren't bothered by these. Really, I mean that.
But there's a whole lot of other people out there...who are being made sick by smart meters, electric,
gas AND water smart meters. Not a problem for you, does NOT mean not a problem for
someone else. I had a water smart meter on my house...it felt like someone was yanking
my hair out, by the roots! You also if memory serves me, are not bothered by 4G.
I'm envious of you. This is a good example of how so many different emf's, can have
completely different effects on people. At this point, I feel the need to caution you-
do NOT underestimate how dangerous the smart meter technology is. 1) Like cell phone
technology, smart meters are not tested. 2) they far exceed the fcc levels of non-ionising
radiation because they transmit continuously, and can not be turned off, like a cell phone.
They lied about how many watts they put out. quote:"smart meters generate two watts
of RF power, twice as much as claimed by PG&E. "(paraphrased by me- the 8 million smart
meters installed so far would generate in reality, 16 million watts of pulsed RF energy.
Therefore, PG&E's customers and the public AT LARGE are being exposed to significantly
more RF radiation then were lead to believe.
Smart meters are not UL listed. PG&E claims smart meters meet fcc guidlines. HOwever,
fcc guidelines concerning MPE (maximum permissible exposure) do not relate to ele smart
meters that operate in license free portion of the spectrum (902-928 MHz). Also, smart meters
are conducting excessive RF interference onto customer's wiring, this is referred to "Dirty
Electricity". And I think I can fairly say, that you ARE familiar with dirty electricity, judging
by many of your previous posts.
I have a copy of a legal proceeding
by a law firm in my hands; Before the California public utilities commission of state of CA
 filed 10-26-11.    And I can fill pages and pages and pages
and back UP everything I'm saying here. There are diff't brands/types of smart meters.
There are different grid situations in diff't areas. And the wiring in houses can be
badly wired, old or over loaded. There are many factors at play here. But the common
denominator, the one thing that keeps coming up; is that people who live in diff't
cities, diff't states, dfff't smart meters, diff't grid situations...are being made sick.
And in most, if not all- of these cases, the only thing that changed was the installation of
smart meter technology.
Marc, this new technology is making people who never before had problems with any
wireless technology, become ES.
Like it or not, smart meters are the latest plague- increasing the numbers
of people becoming ES.
I hope that your gas smart meter remains not a problem for you. But the fact is:
adding this new technology to the grid, could well be described as a  trojan horse-(using the following definition)
and much, much worse.
 
A Trojan horse, or Trojan, is software that is intended to perform desirable (documented or known) effect and a covert (undocumented or unexpected) effect. Trojan horses can make copies of themselves, (perhaps in addition to the expected function) steals information or harms the system.[1]
Key word on "harms"  as in, causing biological harm- and steals, as smart meters have been described as illegal wiretapping.
 
Lizzie

 



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> The Puget Sound Energy district is 100% installed. That includes my new
> town, Poulsbo, on Kitsap Peninsula, directly west of Seattle.

And I take it you already know that PSE is your electric utility company
where you're moving? My admittedly brief Google search on Poulsbo says
that Pacific Power is the electric utility company. PSE may just be natural
gas -- and the PSE natural gas Smart Meters seem pretty harmless (we've
got one on our house -- it looks like it might be battery powered)

Marc



     

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Marc Martin
Administrator
> Marc, with all due respect, the other day you posted that you
> stood next to a smart meter, and it didn't bother you.

True, but you cannot really say that the Smart Meters in one
state / city are the same as the Smart Meters in another
state / city.  Some are wireless and some are not.  Some
are on a mesh network, some are not.  Some transmit
constantly, some not.  So there's not much point in
comparing one person's reaction to a "Smart Meter" to
anothers, unless they are comparing their reaction to
the exact same meter.  :-)

> You also if memory serves me, are not bothered by 4G.

Well, I don't have any cellphone towers visible from
my house -- that was by choice, by the way... :-)

However, if you put me in a crowd of people who are all
checking their iPhones (3G), then I *am* bothered...

> I have a copy of a legal proceeding

Uhhh, remember, this is an ES group, not an anti-Smart Meter
group.  Seems like I've said this before.  :-)

Marc
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Elizabeth thode
They may not be the same...but they are causing remarkly similiar ES symptoms.- all across the US. What that tells me is that they may be different brands, but the fact that there are so many people in different states, with different brands of smart meters, experiencing ES symptoms speaks for itself.

> However, if you put me in a crowd of people who are all
> checking their iPhones (3G), then I *am* bothered...

Ditto for my daughter. While she can feel this immediately, I don't feel it till the next day, or day 2 of exposure. 'She gets a head ache, and I get delayed symptoms of fatigue.

Lizzie


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KathyB
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Marc,

With all due respect I & many of us on this list are bothered by smart meters,

My 13 yr son had heart palpitations from the smart meter. He couldn't sleep with them on.

I had & have nerve pain from smart meters. I slept across from ours outside our window. I felt static tingling sensations a year ago that's never left. We think it's some kind of never damage. Doctors don't know if it can be repaired.

We had ours removed, but where is the remedy to stop the tingling & numbness I have???


 I shouldn't have to feel stinging from a part of the street that has more smart meter RF.  I would like to talk to an attorney. One of our neighbor's developed an epilepsy tight illness.

Animals come to our yard, since it's the only yard that has less RF.

Kathy






 










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