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> Can someone explain to me what hydrogen supplements are and where I could
> get them? Thanks! Amy "Hydrogen supplements" are supplements you can take to reduce the damage being done by "free radicals". They are considered by some to be the ultimate antioxidant, many times (thousands?) stronger than the equivalent amount of Vitamin C. There are a few different supplements available in this category. "Hydrogen Boost" may be found at your local supplement stores, otherwise it certainly can be found online: http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1810/ Alternately, you might find the supplements "Mega-H" or "Megahydrate" locally, although I rarely see these in stores. It can be bought online however: http://www.phisciences.com/ There is also a product called "H-Minus", which I've only seen online: http://www.e3live.com/all_products/h_minus.html Also, there is another product called "Microhydrin", which is a multi-level marketing version that I've only seen online: http://healthandlight.com/microhydrin.htm These products all have more in common than they are different. There is probably lots written about these products on the internet, from both users and skeptics. Also, ex-eSens member Vinny Pinto has a page on the general topic of hydrogen supplementation here: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/ But the most important part in terms of this group is that this is one of those supplements that can make you feel better if taking before/during/after EMF exposure. At least, it works for me and a few others I've exchanged emails with. :-) Marc |
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Excellent info Marc, I actually have some Hydrogen Boost but it is fairly old. I will give it a try and see it helps with reactions. Sounds wonderful.Loni
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] hydrogen supplements To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 7:52 PM > Can someone explain to me what hydrogen supplements are and where I could > get them? Thanks! Amy "Hydrogen supplements" are supplements you can take to reduce the damage being done by "free radicals". They are considered by some to be the ultimate antioxidant, many times (thousands?) stronger than the equivalent amount of Vitamin C. There are a few different supplements available in this category. "Hydrogen Boost" may be found at your local supplement stores, otherwise it certainly can be found online: http://www.sourcena turals.com/ products/ GP1810/ Alternately, you might find the supplements "Mega-H" or "Megahydrate" locally, although I rarely see these in stores. It can be bought online however: http://www.phiscien ces.com/ There is also a product called "H-Minus", which I've only seen online: http://www.e3live. com/all_products /h_minus. html Also, there is another product called "Microhydrin" , which is a multi-level marketing version that I've only seen online: http://healthandlig ht.com/microhydr in.htm These products all have more in common than they are different. There is probably lots written about these products on the internet, from both users and skeptics. Also, ex-eSens member Vinny Pinto has a page on the general topic of hydrogen supplementation here: http://h-minus- ion.vpinf. com/ But the most important part in terms of this group is that this is one of those supplements that can make you feel better if taking before/during/ after EMF exposure. At least, it works for me and a few others I've exchanged emails with. :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks! I will get some and give it a try. Y'all are always so helpful in explaining things to me and I really appreciate it. Are there other supplements as well which help before/during and after EMF exposure? : ) Amy
________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 8:52:39 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] hydrogen supplements > Can someone explain to me what hydrogen supplements are and where I could > get them? Thanks! Amy "Hydrogen supplements" are supplements you can take to reduce the damage being done by "free radicals". They are considered by some to be the ultimate antioxidant, many times (thousands?) stronger than the equivalent amount of Vitamin C. There are a few different supplements available in this category. "Hydrogen Boost" may be found at your local supplement stores, otherwise it certainly can be found online: http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1810/ Alternately, you might find the supplements "Mega-H" or "Megahydrate" locally, although I rarely see these in stores. It can be bought online however: http://www.phisciences.com/ There is also a product called "H-Minus", which I've only seen online: http://www.e3live.com/all_products/h_minus.html Also, there is another product called "Microhydrin", which is a multi-level marketing version that I've only seen online: http://healthandlight.com/microhydrin.htm These products all have more in common than they are different. There is probably lots written about these products on the internet, from both users and skeptics. Also, ex-eSens member Vinny Pinto has a page on the general topic of hydrogen supplementation here: http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com/ But the most important part in terms of this group is that this is one of those supplements that can make you feel better if taking before/during/after EMF exposure. At least, it works for me and a few others I've exchanged emails with. :-) Marc ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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What about B12 Methylcobalamine. I feel much better when I use the injectable but it is very expensive. Any others have experience with this? Loni
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Amy Green <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Amy Green <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] hydrogen supplements To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 8:23 PM Thanks! I will get some and give it a try. Y'all are always so helpful in explaining things to me and I really appreciate it. Are there other supplements as well which help before/during and after EMF exposure? : ) Amy ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 8:52:39 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] hydrogen supplements > Can someone explain to me what hydrogen supplements are and where I could > get them? Thanks! Amy "Hydrogen supplements" are supplements you can take to reduce the damage being done by "free radicals". They are considered by some to be the ultimate antioxidant, many times (thousands?) stronger than the equivalent amount of Vitamin C. There are a few different supplements available in this category. "Hydrogen Boost" may be found at your local supplement stores, otherwise it certainly can be found online: http://www.sourcena turals.com/ products/ GP1810/ Alternately, you might find the supplements "Mega-H" or "Megahydrate" locally, although I rarely see these in stores. It can be bought online however: http://www.phiscien ces.com/ There is also a product called "H-Minus", which I've only seen online: http://www.e3live. com/all_products /h_minus. html Also, there is another product called "Microhydrin" , which is a multi-level marketing version that I've only seen online: http://healthandlig ht.com/microhydr in.htm These products all have more in common than they are different. There is probably lots written about these products on the internet, from both users and skeptics. Also, ex-eSens member Vinny Pinto has a page on the general topic of hydrogen supplementation here: http://h-minus- ion.vpinf. com/ But the most important part in terms of this group is that this is one of those supplements that can make you feel better if taking before/during/ after EMF exposure. At least, it works for me and a few others I've exchanged emails with. :-) Marc ------------ --------- --------- ------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Thanks! I will get some and give it a try. Y'all are always so helpful
> in explaining things to me and I really appreciate it. Are there other > supplements as well which help before/during and after EMF exposure? :) Yes, there are a few more for me, although I have NOT seen many positive reports (or ANY reports at all) from others on these with regards to EMF: -- Eleuthero (from MediHerb) -- Primal Defense (from Garden of Life) -- NDF (from BioRay) -- Echinacea Premium (from Mediherb) Marc |
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> Excellent info Marc, I actually have some Hydrogen Boost but it is fairly
> old. I will give it a try and see it helps with reactions. I hear it has a shelf life of 2 years, so you might want to check and see if the bottle has an expiration date on it. Marc |
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Yes I already looked & it says 6 12 so I should be ok.
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] hydrogen supplements To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 8:54 PM > Excellent info Marc, I actually have some Hydrogen Boost but it is fairly > old. I will give it a try and see it helps with reactions. I hear it has a shelf life of 2 years, so you might want to check and see if the bottle has an expiration date on it. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Yes I already looked & it says 6 12 so I should be ok.
Ahh, so Hydrogen Boost has longer than a 2-year shelf life then... perhaps e3Live (the company I buy H-Minus from) is being more conservative about their shelf life estimates... Marc |
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Joining in the discussion concerning manganese, tests are not reliable for minerals and vitamins. For instance, it is little known, that tests for L-Carnitine serum, muscle tissue and liver differs. Same applies for minerals, vitamins, amino acids, etc... Tests are not unreliable. It is possible to have a high concentration of zinc or manganese in certain areas of the brain, causing neuronal damage cascading in neurologicsymptoms or anxiety, depression, whilst serum, urine, tissue, hair results vary or show low concentration. Even tests for intracellular, or metabolizing, is still unclear with no settesting protocols. Tests in isolation does not lead to diagnosis, rather, symptoms, medical history, and series of tests may help, but even then, misdiagnosis is very high, according to reports over 40%. Biochemistry and biomedical science is still very much in its infancy. We are very limited concerning diagnostic tests. Unless of course, there is acute toxicity to mercury, if very high in urine and serum, including symptoms, it is difficult to diagnose. Just thinking aloud, Kooky --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:09 PM Hi again, Stephen, Hmmmm..... You are not utilizing the manganese correctly, then. Has your doctor looked into this? You should do some searches onlinefor manganese utilization diseases. Be careful using the manganese. It does work to close tight junctions (which is how I came to use it), but manganese is toxic in excess. You definitely need to determinewhy it is not getting from your bloodstream to your hair. Good luck, Diane --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver [hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 5:55 PM Diane, All tests (hair and urine) were done before I took manganese... I suppose it's a good idea to have some new tests soon... --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, Stephen, >  > Well, because you are now taking a supplement for manganese, and the liver probably filters out a good bit of your supplementation, it sounds like that is making its way into your urine (and certainly more manganese is in your bloodstream! ) While, by hair analysis, you show the previous manganese deficiency. It sounds consistent withwhat should be going on, I think, unless you had these tests all prior to taking the manganese supplement. You should be able to get a new hair sample from near the root in a month or 2 of starting supplementation which will show you now have ample manganese. That is why, tho, you should consided repacking your manganese in smaller amounts. Most manganese supplements contain too much to take on an on-going basis. You could also begin taking them onceor twice a week, but then you might not see the help with ES that you do now. >  > Good luck; let me know how it goes. You are the only other ESSER I know taking manganese right now. I take a holiday every few weeks from it, btw, to ensure I am not getting toxic. >  > My best, > Diane > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@...> wrote: > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Scams??? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 4:39 PM > > >  > > > > Hi Evie, > > Thanks for the info., I will try it. > > I still am a bit confused about the manganese-levels in my body. > > -Because in 2 hair tests it states that I'm too low on manganese. > > -On another test (based on urine/chellation) that checks for toxic metalsonly, it says that I have too much manganese. > > Is that possible? Or is one of the tests false? > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi, Stephen, > >  > > Manganese helps me too, or I should say, the mix of cal AEP, pantethine, manganese, and taurine work for me (for reaction to emfs). I take the Cal AEP and pantethine together and later the taurine and manganese together. So you might try taurine with your manganese--it might help you withyour hypoglycemia and headaches, if it is not already in the mix you are taking. I also take very little manganese. Manganese can be a toxic mineral so you have to be careful using it. > >  > > Hope the taurine works for you, > > Diane > > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> wrote: > > > > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Scams??? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 10:14 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Hi Barb, > > > > The one thing that definitely works is putting off the fuse box (at night)! Or of course moving to a less emf-polluted place... > > > > Apart from that, I have 2 things that make a difference: > > -Tachyon-energy > > -Food supplement glucosamin+manganes e > > > > With each of them I have less problems EMF-wise (for instance driving acar). But tachyon worsens my artritis and glucosamin+manganes e worsens myhypoglykemia/ migrain/. .. which is no good either!!! > > > > Next week I'm gonna try manganese only... see where that brings me (According to hair tests I have a shortage of manganese and manganese-shortage is linked to allergies). And lymph drainage (as that may help my body absorb the right minerals). > > > > Probably the best thing in the long end is a good diet, what works bestfor you depending on possible allergies. I've read a lot of positive reactions of people who have benefited a lot from eating gluten-free (and lactose-free) . > > > > I've read that Marc takes (whole) food supplements, and if you can bearthem that may be an improvement. .. > > > > And walking at least half an hour each day (I'm not kidding!) is the best possible exercise? Or meditating! > > > > Greets, > > Stephen. > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Can someone please tell me in your experiences, what really works? Inthis day and age, at least how I think , it is impossible to rid our homesof electricty. Also it is very difficult to unplug things everywhere to besafe. > > > > > > Everytime I begin my research on EMF's, I get so overwhelmed. You read where this product protects, but it really doesn't. You read there web site testamonials, are they real? > > > > > > What compaines do you really believe have truthful working protects, > > > for: > > > > > > Cell phone protection. > > > Home Protection > > > > > > RIght now I am looking at earth calm products. > > > Thank you so much > > > > > > Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Has anyone had a Nutritional Blood Analysis? This is a blood test to see where you body is functioning. They then deduct what minerals/vitamins you may be low in. You then take the suppliments according to the test & retest after 3 months. Your organs should show improvement.
I have done it before & found it very beneficial. These physicians also teach you how to read your own blood test. May be better than a hair analysis. Loni --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Kooky <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Kooky <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:22 AM Joining in the discussion concerning manganese, tests are not reliable for minerals and vitamins. For instance, it is little known, that tests for L-Carnitine serum, muscle tissue and liver differs. Same applies for minerals, vitamins, amino acids, etc... Tests are not unreliable. It is possible to have a high concentration of zinc or manganese in certain areas of the brain, causing neuronal damage cascading in neurologicsymptoms or anxiety, depression, whilst serum, urine, tissue, hair results vary or show low concentration. Even tests for intracellular, or metabolizing, is still unclear with no settesting protocols. Tests in isolation does not lead to diagnosis, rather, symptoms, medical history, and series of tests may help, but even then, misdiagnosis is very high, according to reports over 40%. Biochemistry and biomedical science is still very much in its infancy. We are very limited concerning diagnostic tests. Unless of course, there is acute toxicity to mercury, if very high in urine and serum, including symptoms, it is difficult to diagnose. Just thinking aloud, Kooky --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:09 PM Hi again, Stephen, Hmmmm..... You are not utilizing the manganese correctly, then. Has your doctor looked into this? You should do some searches onlinefor manganese utilization diseases. Be careful using the manganese. It does work to close tight junctions (which is how I came to use it), but manganese is toxic in excess. You definitely need to determinewhy it is not getting from your bloodstream to your hair. Good luck, Diane --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 5:55 PM Diane, All tests (hair and urine) were done before I took manganese... I suppose it's a good idea to have some new tests soon... --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi, Stephen, >  > Well, because you are now taking a supplement for manganese, and the liver probably filters out a good bit of your supplementation, it sounds like that is making its way into your urine (and certainly more manganese is in your bloodstream! ) While, by hair analysis, you show the previous manganese deficiency. It sounds consistent withwhat should be going on, I think, unless you had these tests all prior to taking the manganese supplement. You should be able to get a new hair sample from near the root in a month or 2 of starting supplementation which will show you now have ample manganese. That is why, tho, you should consided repacking your manganese in smaller amounts. Most manganese supplements contain too much to take on an on-going basis. You could also begin taking them onceor twice a week, but then you might not see the help with ES that you do now. >  > Good luck; let me know how it goes. You are the only other ESSER I know taking manganese right now. I take a holiday every few weeks from it, btw, to ensure I am not getting toxic. >  > My best, > Diane > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@...> wrote: > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Scams??? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 4:39 PM > > >  > > > > Hi Evie, > > Thanks for the info., I will try it. > > I still am a bit confused about the manganese-levels in my body. > > -Because in 2 hair tests it states that I'm too low on manganese. > > -On another test (based on urine/chellation) that checks for toxic metalsonly, it says that I have too much manganese. > > Is that possible? Or is one of the tests false? > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > Hi, Stephen, > >  > > Manganese helps me too, or I should say, the mix of cal AEP, pantethine, manganese, and taurine work for me (for reaction to emfs). I take the Cal AEP and pantethine together and later the taurine and manganese together. So you might try taurine with your manganese--it might help you withyour hypoglycemia and headaches, if it is not already in the mix you are taking. I also take very little manganese. Manganese can be a toxic mineral so you have to be careful using it. > >  > > Hope the taurine works for you, > > Diane > > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> wrote: > > > > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Scams??? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 10:14 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Hi Barb, > > > > The one thing that definitely works is putting off the fuse box (at night)! Or of course moving to a less emf-polluted place... > > > > Apart from that, I have 2 things that make a difference: > > -Tachyon-energy > > -Food supplement glucosamin+manganes e > > > > With each of them I have less problems EMF-wise (for instance driving acar). But tachyon worsens my artritis and glucosamin+manganes e worsens myhypoglykemia/ migrain/. .. which is no good either!!! > > > > Next week I'm gonna try manganese only... see where that brings me (According to hair tests I have a shortage of manganese and manganese-shortage is linked to allergies). And lymph drainage (as that may help my body absorb the right minerals). > > > > Probably the best thing in the long end is a good diet, what works bestfor you depending on possible allergies. I've read a lot of positive reactions of people who have benefited a lot from eating gluten-free (and lactose-free) . > > > > I've read that Marc takes (whole) food supplements, and if you can bearthem that may be an improvement. .. > > > > And walking at least half an hour each day (I'm not kidding!) is the best possible exercise? Or meditating! > > > > Greets, > > Stephen. > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Can someone please tell me in your experiences, what really works? Inthis day and age, at least how I think , it is impossible to rid our homesof electricty. Also it is very difficult to unplug things everywhere to besafe. > > > > > > Everytime I begin my research on EMF's, I get so overwhelmed. You read where this product protects, but it really doesn't. You read there web site testamonials, are they real? > > > > > > What compaines do you really believe have truthful working protects, > > > for: > > > > > > Cell phone protection. > > > Home Protection > > > > > > RIght now I am looking at earth calm products. > > > Thank you so much > > > > > > Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello Loni,
Yes more than interesting, Do you have any idea how this therapy is named? Greets, Stephen. --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Has anyone had a Nutritional Blood Analysis? This is a blood test to see where you body is functioning. They then deduct what minerals/vitamins you may be low in. You then take the suppliments according to the test & retest after 3 months. Your organs should show improvement. >  > I have done it before & found it very beneficial. These physicians also teach you how to read your own blood test. >  > May be better than a hair analysis. Loni > > --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Kooky <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > From: Kooky <furstc0404@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) > To: [hidden email] > Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:22 AM > > >  > > > > > Joining in the discussion concerning manganese, tests are not reliable for minerals and vitamins. For instance, it is little known, that testsfor L-Carnitine serum, muscle tissue and liver differs. Same appliesfor minerals, vitamins, amino acids, etc... Tests are not unreliable. It is possible to have a high concentration of zinc or manganese incertain areas of the brain, causing neuronal damage cascading in neurologic symptoms or anxiety, depression, whilst serum, urine, tissue, hair results vary or show low concentration. > > Even tests for intracellular, or metabolizing, is still unclear with no set testing protocols. > > Tests in isolation does not lead to diagnosis, rather, symptoms, medical history, and series of tests may help, but even then, misdiagnosis is very high, according to reports over 40%. > > Biochemistry and biomedical science is still very much in its infancy. We are very limited concerning diagnostic tests. Unless of course, there is acute toxicity to mercury, if very high in urine and serum, including symptoms, it is difficult to diagnose. > > Just thinking aloud, > > Kooky > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote: > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:09 PM > >  > > Hi again, Stephen, > >  > > Hmmmm..... You are not utilizing the manganese correctly, then. Has your doctor looked into this? You should do some searches online for manganese utilization diseases. Be careful using the manganese. It does work to close tight junctions (which is how I came to use it), but manganese is toxic in excess. You definitely need to determine why it is not getting from your bloodstream to your hair. > >  > > Good luck, > > Diane > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> wrote: > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 5:55 PM > >  > > Diane, > > All tests (hair and urine) were done before I took manganese... > > I suppose it's a good idea to have some new tests soon... > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, Stephen, > > > à> > > Well, because you are now taking a supplement for manganese, and the liver probably filters out a good bit of your supplementation, it sounds likethat is making its way into your urine (and certainly more manganese is inyour bloodstream! )àWhile, by hair analysis, you showàthe previous manganese deficiency.àIt sounds consistent withwhat should be going on, I think, unless you hadàthese tests all prior to taking the manganese supplement.àYou shouldàbe able to get a new hair sample from near the root in a month or 2 of starting supplementation which will show you now have ample manganese.àThat is why, tho, you should consided repacking your manganese in smaller amounts.àMost manganese supplements contain too much to take on an on-going basis.àYou could also begin taking them onceor twice a week, but then you might not see the help with ES that you do now. > > > à> > > Good luck; let me know how it goes.àYou are the only other ESSER I know taking manganese right now.àI take a holiday everyfew weeks from it, btw, to ensure I am not getting toxic. > > > à> > > My best, > > > Diane > > > > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Scams??? > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 4:39 PM > > > > > > > > > à> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Evie, > > > > > > Thanks for the info., I will try it. > > > > > > I still am a bit confused about the manganese-levels in my body. > > > > > > -Because in 2 hair tests it states that I'm too low on manganese. > > > > > > -On another test (based on urine/chellation) that checks for toxic metals only, it says that I have too much manganese. > > > > > > Is that possible? Or is one of the tests false? > > > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, Stephen, > > > > Ãâà> > > > Manganese helps me too, or I should say, the mix ofÃâàcal AEP, pantethine, manganese, and taurine work for me (for reaction to emfs).ÃâàI take the Cal AEP and pantethine together and later the taurine and manganese together.ÃâàSo you might try taurine with your manganese--it might help you withyour hypoglycemia and headaches, if it is not already in the mix you are taking.ÃâàI also take very little manganese.ÃâàManganeseÃâàcan beÃâàa toxic mineral so you have to be careful using it. > > > > Ãâà> > > > Hope the taurine works for you, > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Scams??? > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 10:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Barb, > > > > > > > > The one thing that definitely works is putting off the fuse box (at night)! Or of course moving to a less emf-polluted place... > > > > > > > > Apart from that, I have 2 things that make a difference: > > > > -Tachyon-energy > > > > -Food supplement glucosamin+manganes e > > > > > > > > With each of them I have less problems EMF-wise (for instance drivinga car). But tachyon worsens my artritis and glucosamin+manganes e worsens my hypoglykemia/ migrain/. .. which is no good either!!! > > > > > > > > Next week I'm gonna try manganese only... see where that brings me (According to hair tests I have a shortage of manganese and manganese-shortage is linked to allergies). And lymph drainage (as that may help my body absorb the right minerals). > > > > > > > > Probably the best thing in the long end is a good diet, what works best for you depending on possible allergies. I've read a lot of positive reactions of people who have benefited a lot from eating gluten-free (and lactose-free) . > > > > > > > > I've read that Marc takes (whole) food supplements, and if you can bear them that may be an improvement. .. > > > > > > > > And walking at least half an hour each day (I'm not kidding!) is the best possible exercise? Or meditating! > > > > > > > > Greets, > > > > Stephen. > > > > > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Can someone please tell me in your experiences, what really works? In this day and age, at least how I think , it is impossible to rid our homes of electricty. Also it is very difficult to unplug things everywhere to be safe. > > > > > > > > > > Everytime I begin my research on EMF's, I get so overwhelmed. You read where this product protects, but it really doesn't. You read there web site testamonials, are they real? > > > > > > > > > > What compaines do you really believe have truthful working protects, > > > > > for: > > > > > > > > > > Cell phone protection. > > > > > Home Protection > > > > > > > > > > RIght now I am looking at earth calm products. > > > > > Thank you so much > > > > > > > > > > Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Stephen, It's just called a Nutritional Blood Analysis here in the states! Loni
--- On Tue, 2/23/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Manganese & Testing To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 12:22 PM Hello Loni, Yes more than interesting, Do you have any idea how this therapy is named? Greets, Stephen. --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@... > wrote: > > Has anyone had a Nutritional Blood Analysis? This is a blood test to see where you body is functioning. They then deduct what minerals/vitamins you may be low in. You then take the suppliments according to the test & retest after 3 months. Your organs should show improvement. >  > I have done it before & found it very beneficial. These physicians also teach you how to read your own blood test. >  > May be better than a hair analysis. Loni > > --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Kooky <furstc0404@ ...> wrote: > > > From: Kooky <furstc0404@ ...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:22 AM > > >  > > > > > Joining in the discussion concerning manganese, tests are not reliable for minerals and vitamins. For instance, it is little known, thattests for L-Carnitine serum, muscle tissue and liver differs. Same applies for minerals, vitamins, amino acids, etc... Tests are not unreliable. It is possible to have a high concentrationof zinc or manganese in certain areas of the brain, causing neuronal damage cascading in neurologic symptoms or anxiety, depression, whilst serum, urine, tissue, hair results vary or show low concentration. > > Even tests for intracellular, or metabolizing, is still unclear with no set testing protocols. > > Tests in isolation does not lead to diagnosis, rather, symptoms, medical history, and series of tests may help, but even then, misdiagnosis is very high, according to reports over 40%. > > Biochemistry and biomedical science is still very much in its infancy. We are very limited concerning diagnostic tests. Unless of course, there is acute toxicity to mercury, if very high in urine andserum, including symptoms, it is difficult to diagnose. > > Just thinking aloud, > > Kooky > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote: > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 6:09 PM > >  > > Hi again, Stephen, > >  > > Hmmmm..... You are not utilizing the manganese correctly, then. Has your doctor looked into this? You should do some searches online for manganese utilization diseases. Be careful using the manganese. It does work to close tight junctions(which is how I came to use it), but manganese is toxic in excess. You definitely need to determine why it is not getting from your bloodstream to your hair. > >  > > Good luck, > > Diane > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> wrote: > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve r [hidden email]> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Manganese supplementation (formerly Scams) > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 5:55 PM > >  > > Diane, > > All tests (hair and urine) were done before I took manganese... > > I suppose it's a good idea to have some new tests soon... > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, Stephen, > > >  > > > Well, because you are now taking a supplement for manganese, and the liver probably filters out a good bit of your supplementation, it sounds likethat is making its way into your urine (and certainly more manganese is inyour bloodstream! ) While, by hair analysis, you show the previous manganese deficiency. It sounds consistent with what should be going on, I think, unless you had these tests all prior to taking the manganese supplement. You should be able to get a new hair sample from near the root ina month or 2 of starting supplementation which will show you now have ample manganese. That is why, tho, you should consided repacking your manganese in smaller amounts. Most manganese supplements contain too much to take on an on-going basis. You could also begin taking them once or twice a week, but then you might not see the help with ES that you do now. > > >  > > > Good luck; let me know how it goes. You are the only other ESSER I know taking manganese right now. I take a holiday every few weeks from it, btw, to ensure I am notgetting toxic. > > >  > > > My best, > > > Diane > > > > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Scams??? > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 4:39 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Evie, > > > > > > Thanks for the info., I will try it. > > > > > > I still am a bit confused about the manganese-levels in my body. > > > > > > -Because in 2 hair tests it states that I'm too low on manganese. > > > > > > -On another test (based on urine/chellation) that checks for toxic metals only, it says that I have too much manganese. > > > > > > Is that possible? Or is one of the tests false? > > > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, Stephen, > > > >  > > > > Manganese helps me too, or I should say, the mix of cal AEP, pantethine, manganese, and taurine work for me (for reaction to emfs). I take the Cal AEP and pantethine together and later the taurine and manganese together. So you might try taurine with your manganese--it might help you with your hypoglycemia and headaches, if it is not already in the mix you are taking. I also take very little manganese. Manganese can be a toxic mineral so you have to be careful using it. > > > >  > > > > Hope the taurine works for you, > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 2/22/10, stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijve re@> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Scams??? > > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > > > Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 10:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Barb, > > > > > > > > The one thing that definitely works is putting off the fuse box (at night)! Or of course moving to a less emf-polluted place... > > > > > > > > Apart from that, I have 2 things that make a difference: > > > > -Tachyon-energy > > > > -Food supplement glucosamin+manganes e > > > > > > > > With each of them I have less problems EMF-wise (for instance drivinga car). But tachyon worsens my artritis and glucosamin+manganes e worsens my hypoglykemia/ migrain/. .. which is no good either!!! > > > > > > > > Next week I'm gonna try manganese only... see where that brings me (According to hair tests I have a shortage of manganese and manganese-shortage is linked to allergies). And lymph drainage (as that may help my body absorb the right minerals). > > > > > > > > Probably the best thing in the long end is a good diet, what works best for you depending on possible allergies. I've read a lot of positive reactions of people who have benefited a lot from eating gluten-free (and lactose-free) . > > > > > > > > I've read that Marc takes (whole) food supplements, and if you can bear them that may be an improvement. .. > > > > > > > > And walking at least half an hour each day (I'm not kidding!) is the best possible exercise? Or meditating! > > > > > > > > Greets, > > > > Stephen. > > > > > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Can someone please tell me in your experiences, what really works? In this day and age, at least how I think , it is impossible to rid our homes of electricty. Also it is very difficult to unplug things everywhere to be safe. > > > > > > > > > > Everytime I begin my research on EMF's, I get so overwhelmed. You read where this product protects, but it really doesn't. 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