Satellite Dishes

My next door neighbor in my apt. building just had a dish installed on the roof. It's facing the other direction from my apt. so I was hoping it wouldn't affect me but my muscles are tightening on my shoulders and circulation in my arms is screwed up, which is the same reaction I got when the smart meters were installed.
Is this just a coincidence or can there be a connection?
Steve

Hi Steve,

While it /might/ be the dish, as some have reported symptoms from the
scalar waves coming off the back side, I would first suspect the
equipment hooked up to it, like WiFi enabled internet access.
Do you have a meter or other way to determine if there is a new WiFi
hotspot there?

Stewart


torch369 wrote:
> My next door neighbor in my apt. building just had a dish installed on the roof. It's facing the other direction from my apt. so I was hoping it wouldn't affect me but my muscles are tightening on my shoulders and circulation in my arms is screwed up, which is the same reaction I got when the smart meters were installed.
> Is this just a coincidence or can there be a connection?
>  

Hi Stewart,

I didn't think of that, it could be wi-fi if they are using wirless. I have a gauss meter but I don't know if that would detect it. I'll try it when I get home though.
Steve

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Maybe you could detect a little w your gaussmeter. Mine switches from 5-6 & sometimes goes to 1 in tha air.

My neighbor has wi-fi & on the other side has a satellite.
One time I counted using a 0 befpre each # itt held 30 secs. on 1 gauss 

I need to get a meter to tell me when they're using their wi-fi, since I have no idea what the Cornet reading should be when their wi-fi's active.

Kathy
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I didn't think of that, it could be wi-fi if they are using wirless. I have a gauss meter but I don't know if that would detect it. I'll try it when I get home though.

Steve






 










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I just tested with my gauss meter and my readings haven't changed. The only hot spot in my apt. is next to my TV and a few feet around the Battery BackUPS that my computer is connected to. I probably should get rid of it and just get a regular surge strip like the Furman.
Steve

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KathyB wrote:
> I need to get a meter to tell me when they're using their wi-fi, since I have no idea what the Cornet reading should be when their wi-fi's active.
>  

Depends on how close you can get the Cornet.
But since it is not very sensitive, you'd need to get fairly close to be
useful.
Ah, I found my measurement at a certain mailbox area, 110 uW/m2 or 0.20
V/m where the Acoustimeter read 0.26 to 0.31 V/m. I can't find my notes
on how far back I started detecting his WiFi. I think it was around 75 ft.

I do know the best WiFi detector is something using the actual chip, and
not a broadband meter.
Canary Hotspotter.

Stewart

   What do you mean by "using the actual chip"? what chip?
   I apologize if that is a stupid question -  I know zip about electronics, frequencies etc

           blessings
             Shan

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Shan wrote:
>    What do you mean by "using the actual chip"? what chip?
>    I apologize if that is a stupid question -  I know zip about electronics, frequencies etc
>  

Hi Shan and all,

Actually it is the opposite of a stupid question, as I find it to be a
challenging question. As in difficult. I think I got a good illustration
now:

Think of a WiFi or cell phone signal as a small gnat, or perhaps a
mosquito. Something small.

Think of a broadband meter, as a barn. It is good at collecting cows and
horses. The farmer can count how many large animals are in his barn. He
can not count how many gnats are in it.
The barn (or broadband RF meter) is not the right tool, not likely to
count the gnat, (or small signal).

Unless the barn is filled with millions of gnats, packed tightly enough
that we can see there are indeed "Some There"
This is what happens when the RF meter is placed right next to the WiFi
router or Cell tower. So close the signal is so large it can not be
ignored. Just like having a rock concert next door. Loud.

Contrast with a baited mosquito trap. With the right scent, most if not
all the small bugs will be drawn to it, and be trapped, and then they
can be counted.
The specific trap is like a Canary Hotspotter, or a Cell phone, that
uses a silicon and crystal chip tuned to the specific wavelength of the
signal you are looking for.
The insect trap does not count cows or horses, or any other frequency
outside the specific ones it is TUNED to.
It is that Tuning that makes it able to pick up small signals.

Most RF meters measure down only to -55 dB or 0.02 V/m (same as 20 mV/m)
or 1 uW/m2 (micro Watt per square meter)

They can not be expected to pick up far away WiFi, Cellular, or GPS
signals that are from Far away.
I recently wrote about mapping my valley for cellular reception, between
0 and 6 bars. I now know that is equal to between -110 to -80 decibals
(should be dBm).

What this says is that cell phones only need a signal strength of 0.06
to 1.4 mV/m (milliVolt per meter) to work, and will drop calls about
-100 dBm or around 0.01 to 0.15 mV/m. Every other unit of measure will
need enough 0.000zeros to get lost. Or unfamiliar units like picoWatts
and nanoWatts per square meter.

See the difference?

And for the electro sensitive, urban areas are indeed, LOUD. A place
where broadband RF meters have a lot to say, or measure. Back to my
illustration, Something like raining cats and dogs, or flying horses. :)
You get bruised, literally.

Stewart

Thank you Stewart. That is a very well put analogy.
Lizzie
 



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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:16:35 -0800
Subject: [eSens] Illustrating the right meter, Was: Re: Satellite Dishes


 



Shan wrote:
> What do you mean by "using the actual chip"? what chip?
> I apologize if that is a stupid question - I know zip about electronics, frequencies etc
>

Hi Shan and all,

Actually it is the opposite of a stupid question, as I find it to be a
challenging question. As in difficult. I think I got a good illustration
now:

Think of a WiFi or cell phone signal as a small gnat, or perhaps a
mosquito. Something small.

Think of a broadband meter, as a barn. It is good at collecting cows and
horses. The farmer can count how many large animals are in his barn. He
can not count how many gnats are in it.
The barn (or broadband RF meter) is not the right tool, not likely to
count the gnat, (or small signal).

Unless the barn is filled with millions of gnats, packed tightly enough
that we can see there are indeed "Some There"
This is what happens when the RF meter is placed right next to the WiFi
router or Cell tower. So close the signal is so large it can not be
ignored. Just like having a rock concert next door. Loud.

Contrast with a baited mosquito trap. With the right scent, most if not
all the small bugs will be drawn to it, and be trapped, and then they
can be counted.
The specific trap is like a Canary Hotspotter, or a Cell phone, that
uses a silicon and crystal chip tuned to the specific wavelength of the
signal you are looking for.
The insect trap does not count cows or horses, or any other frequency
outside the specific ones it is TUNED to.
It is that Tuning that makes it able to pick up small signals.

Most RF meters measure down only to -55 dB or 0.02 V/m (same as 20 mV/m)
or 1 uW/m2 (micro Watt per square meter)

They can not be expected to pick up far away WiFi, Cellular, or GPS
signals that are from Far away.
I recently wrote about mapping my valley for cellular reception, between
0 and 6 bars. I now know that is equal to between -110 to -80 decibals
(should be dBm).

What this says is that cell phones only need a signal strength of 0.06
to 1.4 mV/m (milliVolt per meter) to work, and will drop calls about
-100 dBm or around 0.01 to 0.15 mV/m. Every other unit of measure will
need enough 0.000zeros to get lost. Or unfamiliar units like picoWatts
and nanoWatts per square meter.

See the difference?

And for the electro sensitive, urban areas are indeed, LOUD. A place
where broadband RF meters have a lot to say, or measure. Back to my
illustration, Something like raining cats and dogs, or flying horses. :)
You get bruised, literally.

Stewart




     

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