Salt lamps

> Foot baths are another item which I was initially skeptical about, but
> which several people have reported working well.

A couple of years ago, I tried a few of these ionic foot baths. While
the water did discolor, I did not really notice any health benefits
from it. Perhaps if I had done this repeatedly there may have been
some longterm benefits, but I did not pursue this because I did not
perceive any initial benefit, and would have to travel (and pay) for
each use.

Marc

* Foot baths are another item which I was initially skeptical about,
but
> which several people have reported working well.

A couple of years ago, I tried a few of these ionic foot baths. While
the water did discolor, I did not really notice any health benefits
from it. Perhaps if I had done this repeatedly there may have been
some longterm benefits, but I did not pursue this because I did not
perceive any initial benefit, and would have to travel (and pay) for
each use.

Marc

* Yes, and some skeptics have posted negative results/reviews about the
commercially sold, electrical gizmo type. However we had heard of positive
results from people who'd used bentonite (very finely divided clay mineral)
to draw toxins out through the skin. As far as I recall, it was just a
plain static bath - no special (expensive!) equipment needed.

Ian

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Hi Everyone,

I'm still waiting on anyone's opinion or experience with the ceramic
blanket idea. I also am looking for experiences others have had with
magnetic healing methods. I slept on a magnetic mattress pad for two
nights and my ES symptoms increased substantially. Is this the common
experience?
Also, people mention devices they wear or put on their computers that
help with being able to be online. I"ll take any info on those that
work for you. I am new to ES and am grabbing at straws. I can't
believe this is happening to me! How do you suggest coping?
Thanks,
Mariann

> I also am looking for experiences others have had with
> magnetic healing methods. I slept on a magnetic mattress pad for two
> nights and my ES symptoms increased substantially.

I don't have much experience with magnetic healing methods -- if you
tried something that makes your ES symptoms worse, I think I'd
stop doing that!

> Also, people mention devices they wear or put on their computers that
> help with being able to be online.

You can try the free trial software download for the Quantum Byte
software (if you are using Microsoft Windows, that is), at:

http://www.quantumproducts.com/quantumbytefreedownload/

I've also had luck with placing a Springlife Polarizer pendant
in between my monitor and the keyboard. I use the smallest
one at home, and the next larger one at work. These work
with the old-style CRT monitors -- I have not had much luck
with these and the newer LCD monitors. My usual source
for these is bioharmonics.com, but this site has been offline
for a while. Here is an alternate source:

http://www.choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/sprnglfunits.html

Another item that works well for me when placed on top of the
computer monitor is the RA*D*AR card:

http://www.radar3.com

Another product line which may work for you is the Earthcalm
line, although personally I have found these products too
strong (that is, they cause unpleasant detox symptoms):

http://www.earthcalm.com

Everyone responds differently to these items, and there
are plenty of other items that are available that *someone*
on this list has tried. I've personally tried a lot of
other items, and some did nothing for me, while others made
me worse.

Marc

> > Also, people mention devices they wear or put on their computers that
> > help with being able to be online.

Oh, you might want to look at EMF section of the "Tools for Wellness"
online catalog:

http://www.toolsforwellness.com/emf.html

The "polarizer necklace" listed there provided some benefits for me,
although I don't use it any more...

Also, this website has a lot of stuff:

http://www.blockemf.com/

Marc

> I am new to ES and am grabbing at straws. I can't
> believe this is happening to me! How do you suggest coping?

If you are lucky, you'll find some combination of stuff that
will enable you to live a normal life. It may require dietary
changes, supplements, removal of metal dental work, using
EMF devices, replacing wireless technologies (internet, phone)
with wired equivalents, etc. So it may not be easy, and it
will most certainly require some trial & error!

Marc

> Yes, and some skeptics have posted negative results/reviews about the
> commercially sold, electrical gizmo type. However we had heard of
> positive results from people who'd used bentonite (very finely divided clay
> mineral) to draw toxins out through the skin. As far as I recall, it was just a
> plain static bath - no special (expensive!) equipment needed.

Ahh, I was using one of "gizmo" types.

My experiences with bentonite on the skin have always been positive.
I remember even using this as a teenager for acne.

My experience with bentonite taken internally has been mixed, depending
on the type of bentonite used.

Marc

Hi, Ian,

I'm a little confused. Wasn't it good that the bad bugs/whatever were released from Sue's system? Or are you just saying that she got sicker because too much was released at one time? And this was all due to using Epsom Salts in a foot bath? Just wondered if I understood.

I take almost daily whole body baths in Epsom salts. Maybe I am absorbing too much of the stuff! I didn't know that the magnesium absorbed into your body from a bath. I thought it just unclogged the pores so that toxins could be released.

Happy holidays,
Diane

Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:
Foot baths are another item which I was initially skeptical about, but which
several people have reported working well. In Sue's case it worked too well
- she had baths with Epsom salts (magnesium sulphate) to try to get
inorganic sulphate into her system (a deficiency specific to her). She got
a bad reaction - too much was absorbed and it released too many built-up
nasties from her system! So it seems that the skin is more permeable than I
thought, and it should be possible to remove toxins through it.

Ian

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Hi Diane,



It was a whole body bath that Sue did, and we think that too many internal
toxins were released in one go, and couldn't be eliminated fast enough.
Since then she has taken magnesium sulphate by mouth or IV drips, but with
the latter she has to go very slowly or she gets side reactions.



I believe the magnesium sulphate does pass into your skin, but if your
levels of both ions are reasonably normal, it shouldn't have any effect.
However, Sue's "sulphation pathway" for liver detox is not working - this
was shown by specialized tests. This means that organic sulphur she takes
in from foods, supplements etc. doesn't get metabolized to inorganic sulphur
- shown by cysteine levels being normal to high, and sulphate levels very
low. Epsom salts are the easiest way of getting inorganic sulphate into
someone, but the bath overdid it for Sue.



Some research has suggested that a broken sulphation pathway is a common
factor for quite a number of sufferers from ME/CFS/MCS type illnesses.
Substances which should normally be detoxified by that route build up in the
body, and/or overstress the body's other detox routes.



Ian



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Hi, Ian,

I'm a little confused. Wasn't it good that the bad bugs/whatever were
released from Sue's system? Or are you just saying that she got sicker
because too much was released at one time? And this was all due to using
Epsom Salts in a foot bath? Just wondered if I understood.

I take almost daily whole body baths in Epsom salts. Maybe I am absorbing
too much of the stuff! I didn't know that the magnesium absorbed into your
body from a bath. I thought it just unclogged the pores so that toxins
could be released.

Happy holidays,
Diane

Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:
Foot baths are another item which I was initially skeptical about, but
which
several people have reported working well. In Sue's case it worked too well
- she had baths with Epsom salts (magnesium sulphate) to try to get
inorganic sulphate into her system (a deficiency specific to her). She got
a bad reaction - too much was absorbed and it released too many built-up
nasties from her system! So it seems that the skin is more permeable than I
thought, and it should be possible to remove toxins through it.

Ian

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Hi Mariann
A health warning first re my post! I sell magnetic wristbands and
also bio resonance devices that have been shown to help with emf -
trials carried out with a super nova machine - take a look at
research details in Esens files and links section.Just thought I had
better let you know where I was coming from!
Anyway.. I do not sell magnetic matresses and know little about them
apart from they are quite expensive.
I have had hundreds of customers who report really great benefit
from their wristbands for themsleves and with collars etc for their
animals. The symptoms range from arthritis ( the wristbands I sell
were trialled and reported on in the British Medical Journal Dec
2004 as being as effective as a painkiller) sore limbs, high blood
pressure headaches etc. A wide range of symptoms eased thanks to the
magnets working on the blood not on the problem, all they do is make
the body more efficient in healing itself.
With the bio resonance devices - biophone and bioguard they work to
neutralise the effects of radiation on the cells. If you want more
information let me know and I will email you what I have.
I found that I was sensitive after a major car accident and post
traumatic stress. I was in a lot of pain and found that radiation
from devices such as mobile (cell) phones gave me severe headaches.
I used a magnetic wristband first and after a few months it helped
ease off the pain until I was no longer taking painkillers. Then I
tried the Bioguard and that cleared up the problems from mobiles and
enabled me to work on computers too.
Hope this helps a bit more info on my web site www.magnatech.ik.com
and a discount for esens members - also if you do get something make
sure there is a money back guarantee - not everything works for
everyone!
All the best
Ian
In [hidden email], Mariann Martin <mariann7@c...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm still waiting on anyone's opinion or experience with the
ceramic
> blanket idea. I also am looking for experiences others have had
with
> magnetic healing methods. I slept on a magnetic mattress pad for
two
> nights and my ES symptoms increased substantially. Is this the
common
> experience?
> Also, people mention devices they wear or put on their computers
that
> help with being able to be online. I"ll take any info on those
that
> work for you. I am new to ES and am grabbing at straws. I can't
> believe this is happening to me! How do you suggest coping?
> Thanks,
> Mariann
>

Hello,

to make it clear:
biophone and bioguard are NOT bio resonance devices!
They belong in the category of dowsing.

Under bio resonance devices we understand apparatus which consist of a
frequency generator, which gives pre-defined frequencies via a lamp,
contacts or sounds to persons, in order to improve their health.
See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina161.html

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Gander" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 14:46
Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnetic mattress

Before I bought my sauna, which I still occasionally use, I was able
to test them out. Both the traditional wet saunas and the dry infra-
red saunas. I would very much like to test out the ionic foot baths.  
Can you suggest where I might go to try something like this out? I'm
willing to travel a little ways. I am in a metropolitan area.


>
> A couple of years ago, I tried a few of these ionic foot baths.  
While
> the water did discolor, I did not really notice any health benefits
> from it. Perhaps if I had done this repeatedly there may have been
> some longterm benefits, but I did not pursue this because I did not
> perceive any initial benefit, and would have to travel (and pay) for
> each use.
>

>

> Can you suggest where I might go to try something like this out? I'm
> willing to travel a little ways. I am in a metropolitan area.

I see them advertised in alternative health directories and also on
bulletin boards at health food store, and the occasional local
health expo. I suppose some kind of internet search might bring
up something too, but the problem is that there are differently
named competitors. I think the last one I tried was called
"Bionic Hydrotherapy":

http://www.naturalchoice.net/sec2/hydrothr.htm

Marc

> red saunas. I would very much like to test out the ionic foot baths.
> Can you suggest where I might go to try something like this out? I'm
> willing to travel a little ways. I am in a metropolitan area.

Q-

Where do the alternative therapists advertise in your area? Besides
notice boards in health food stores, progressive or new-agey book
stores, other therapists, etc., look out for any 'free' newspapers. Is
there a college or artsy town nearby? They may have a higher density of
practitioners and/or the sorts of stores that will accept a pile of
'holistic' ad rags in the corner.

I've seen ads for 'aqua therapy' even here in Aberdeen where that
generally means the pub, so there's hope no matter where you are. ;-)

Emma

Dear Charles
I am not a scientist and I don't know how dowsing works but reading
the research report filed on the Esens site on the biophone project
Dr Bjorn Overbye states:
"Bio resonance is a well known phenomena acknowledged more than 60
years back when the first experiments with bio feedback started in
the US . Briefly stated is works like this: living tissues like
organs, vessels, nerves, individual cells, even their individual
parts (organelles, proteins, enzymes and DNA) have certain energy
absorption resonant frequencies where they start to absorb energy
more intensely, and when doing so start to alter their manner of
functioning sometimes improving their performance, but more often
getting disturbed and starting to malfunction.
A considerable body of knowledge has been built up concerning
radiation frequencies, wave topology (wave shape and pulse duration
and the sequence of pulses) and their electromagnetic field
strength. This body of knowledge today forms the firm foundation of
a diversity of disciplines such as the benevolent art of magnetic
healing , the German MORA-bio resonant therapy ,the Hungarian
Quantum Xeroid therapy..."
Later he conclude:
"It was the classic experiment of Morell, Rasche and Aschoff: phase
inversion of a selective spin direction, the classic geopathic
program.

So the solution seems to be: The Biophone crystal-metal picks up the
stress signals from the body when excited by the mobile phone, picks
up the left—turning spin signals (the sick spin) phase invert the
signal and returns to the body as a healing-signal.

In other words having worked with the Biophone for 6 months used
thousands of kroners on the project, written for 200 hours and spent
hours churning out numbers we ended up with some very, very ancient
wisdom: crystals heal your body when attacked by harmful radiations.

I was left dumbfounded, using hundreds thousand worth kroner of
equipment we proved that professor Danev had ended up where ancient
lore meets practical wisdom from the past. And in the future? The
Theratronics lab now have the key to a new future: making of healing
crystals to be built into mobile phones, computers, radios or even
worn to protect you in the shape and form of jewellery.
There ends the story so far, the first step into utilizing crystal
technology. They did it before. Many others did it their way. We
were the first to do it our way."

from the documentation Dr Overbye has sent me he has indicated that
they link to signals from the body I would be intersted to hear your
comments on his research. They would probably be too lengthy for
this site but I would be delighted to have them sent to my email
([hidden email]) and with your permission pass them on to Dr
Overbye and the lab where the biophones were tested. As I said at
the beginning I am no scientist and most of this is way over my
head! All I can say is that it has helped me and I know of hundreds
of others who have been helped from the biophones and bioguard in
England and across Europe.
Wishing you and everyone else a very happy and peaceful Christmas
Season
Ian


--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> to make it clear:
> biophone and bioguard are NOT bio resonance devices!
> They belong in the category of dowsing.
>
> Under bio resonance devices we understand apparatus which consist
of a
> frequency generator, which gives pre-defined frequencies via a
lamp, emf -
> > trials carried out with a super nova machine - take a look at
> > research details in Esens files and links section.Just thought I
had
> > better let you know where I was coming from!
> > Anyway.. I do not sell magnetic matresses and know little about
them
> > apart from they are quite expensive.
> > I have had hundreds of customers who report really great benefit
> > from their wristbands for themsleves and with collars etc for
their
> > animals. The symptoms range from arthritis ( the wristbands I
sell
> > were trialled and reported on in the British Medical Journal Dec
> > 2004 as being as effective as a painkiller) sore limbs, high
blood
> > pressure headaches etc. A wide range of symptoms eased thanks to
the
> > magnets working on the blood not on the problem, all they do is
make
> > the body more efficient in healing itself.
> > With the bio resonance devices - biophone and bioguard they work
to
> > neutralise the effects of radiation on the cells. If you want
more
> > information let me know and I will email you what I have.
> > I found that I was sensitive after a major car accident and post
> > traumatic stress. I was in a lot of pain and found that radiation
> > from devices such as mobile (cell) phones gave me severe
headaches.
> > I used a magnetic wristband first and after a few months it
helped
> > ease off the pain until I was no longer taking painkillers. Then
I
> > tried the Bioguard and that cleared up the problems from mobiles
and
> > enabled me to work on computers too.
> > Hope this helps a bit more info on my web site
www.magnatech.ik.com
> > and a discount for esens members - also if you do get something
make
> > sure there is a money back guarantee - not everything works for
> > everyone!
> > All the best
> > Ian

Hello,

since a week we do have an IonCleanse foot spa.
We are flabbergasted with the results.
It makes positive and/or negative ions and by osmosis, it takes a lot of
toxic substances out of the body.
We think it a very good way of detoxifying the body.
The particles, fat, and mucous residues found in the water after bathing
reflect the wastes that have left the body during the 20 to 30 minute
session.
The colors of the debris in the water may tell what is coming out.
http://www.amajordifference.com/cleansehome.php

We also have a Molecular Oscillating Resonance Instrument, as well as a
Multiple Wave Oscillator (Lakhovsky) which work fine, but the released
toxins form a problem to get them out of the body.


Typically, when I went shopping today with my wife in a village nearby, she
had no trouble in the supermarket, inside and near the freezers, and outside
on the parking lot in front of the churchtower, full of GSM antennas.
This was quite different only two weeks ago.

Swollen fingers are getting thinner.
Liver spots on hands get lighter in color.
Sugar level of diabetes gets lower.

And, we now have proper clean feet. ;o))

Of course, it is only after a very short period, but we are very optimistic.
I keep you posted.
Look at: http://www.amajordifference.com/cleansehome.php

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 01:31
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Foot baths

> Typically, when I went shopping today with my wife in a village nearby,
> she had no trouble in the supermarket, inside and near the freezers, and
> outside on the parking lot in front of the churchtower, full of GSM antennas.
> This was quite different only two weeks ago.

Hmmm, impressive!

I must say that my symptoms also diminished with detox, although
I never found any detox method that I could tolerate that would
allow such rapid changes!

Marc

Hello Ian,

the MORA is a bioresonance therapy machine.
the Quantum Xeroid is not as such.
The Quantum Xeroid , or QXCI machine is not a bioresonance machine, where
one administers regulated frequencies from well known CAFL lists. (CAFL=
Consolidated Annotated Frequency List )
Although it is possible to obtain good results with a QXCI machine, it is
regarded more as a radionics machine, not real bioresonance.
More can be read at http://educate-yourself.org/fc/#bioelectric

The question of vortexes, whether they turn left or right is still somewhat
unexplained, although I beleive that such exists, and has to do with the
longitudinal waves, which cannot be proven today, but of which the existence
exists also.
We do know that cristals can do something with radiation, but beware, they
turn against you someday, and they must be *cleaned* regularly by sun or by
Purple Plates.
The working effect is however limited.
There are other materials which do have a much stronger working effect.

For instance, the Polarizer or the Bioprotect card.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 14:05
Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnetic mattress


Dear Charles
I am not a scientist and I don't know how dowsing works but reading
the research report filed on the Esens site on the biophone project
Dr Bjorn Overbye states:
"Bio resonance is a well known phenomena acknowledged more than 60
years back when the first experiments with bio feedback started in
the US . Briefly stated is works like this: living tissues like
organs, vessels, nerves, individual cells, even their individual
parts (organelles, proteins, enzymes and DNA) have certain energy
absorption resonant frequencies where they start to absorb energy
more intensely, and when doing so start to alter their manner of
functioning sometimes improving their performance, but more often
getting disturbed and starting to malfunction.
A considerable body of knowledge has been built up concerning
radiation frequencies, wave topology (wave shape and pulse duration
and the sequence of pulses) and their electromagnetic field
strength. This body of knowledge today forms the firm foundation of
a diversity of disciplines such as the benevolent art of magnetic
healing , the German MORA-bio resonant therapy ,the Hungarian
Quantum Xeroid therapy..."
Later he conclude:
"It was the classic experiment of Morell, Rasche and Aschoff: phase
inversion of a selective spin direction, the classic geopathic
program.

So the solution seems to be: The Biophone crystal-metal picks up the
stress signals from the body when excited by the mobile phone, picks
up the left-turning spin signals (the sick spin) phase invert the
signal and returns to the body as a healing-signal.

In other words having worked with the Biophone for 6 months used
thousands of kroners on the project, written for 200 hours and spent
hours churning out numbers we ended up with some very, very ancient
wisdom: crystals heal your body when attacked by harmful radiations.

I was left dumbfounded, using hundreds thousand worth kroner of
equipment we proved that professor Danev had ended up where ancient
lore meets practical wisdom from the past. And in the future? The
Theratronics lab now have the key to a new future: making of healing
crystals to be built into mobile phones, computers, radios or even
worn to protect you in the shape and form of jewellery.
There ends the story so far, the first step into utilizing crystal
technology. They did it before. Many others did it their way. We
were the first to do it our way."

from the documentation Dr Overbye has sent me he has indicated that
they link to signals from the body I would be intersted to hear your
comments on his research. They would probably be too lengthy for
this site but I would be delighted to have them sent to my email
([hidden email]) and with your permission pass them on to Dr
Overbye and the lab where the biophones were tested. As I said at
the beginning I am no scientist and most of this is way over my
head! All I can say is that it has helped me and I know of hundreds
of others who have been helped from the biophones and bioguard in
England and across Europe.
Wishing you and everyone else a very happy and peaceful Christmas
Season
Ian


--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> to make it clear:
> biophone and bioguard are NOT bio resonance devices!
> They belong in the category of dowsing.
>
> Under bio resonance devices we understand apparatus which consist
of a
> frequency generator, which gives pre-defined frequencies via a
lamp, emf -
> > trials carried out with a super nova machine - take a look at
> > research details in Esens files and links section.Just thought I
had
> > better let you know where I was coming from!
> > Anyway.. I do not sell magnetic matresses and know little about
them
> > apart from they are quite expensive.
> > I have had hundreds of customers who report really great benefit
> > from their wristbands for themsleves and with collars etc for
their
> > animals. The symptoms range from arthritis ( the wristbands I
sell
> > were trialled and reported on in the British Medical Journal Dec
> > 2004 as being as effective as a painkiller) sore limbs, high
blood
> > pressure headaches etc. A wide range of symptoms eased thanks to
the
> > magnets working on the blood not on the problem, all they do is
make
> > the body more efficient in healing itself.
> > With the bio resonance devices - biophone and bioguard they work
to
> > neutralise the effects of radiation on the cells. If you want
more
> > information let me know and I will email you what I have.
> > I found that I was sensitive after a major car accident and post
> > traumatic stress. I was in a lot of pain and found that radiation
> > from devices such as mobile (cell) phones gave me severe
headaches.
> > I used a magnetic wristband first and after a few months it
helped
> > ease off the pain until I was no longer taking painkillers. Then
I
> > tried the Bioguard and that cleared up the problems from mobiles
and
> > enabled me to work on computers too.
> > Hope this helps a bit more info on my web site
www.magnatech.ik.com
> > and a discount for esens members - also if you do get something
make
> > sure there is a money back guarantee - not everything works for
> > everyone!
> > All the best
> > Ian









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Hi,

Ok is enlightened good enough?? Hope i did not pledge full;0)y ascended.

(read that in the bible, do not get drunk too much so they take you seriously and so you can pray)

Have gotten close enough to where i guess it could be called level Ghostbuster (not just the generator or electic appliances now, Eve=what we are), Silent Night was far from silent.. (started a cpl a days before that) Like fireworks, with no apparent guys or dolls lighting them.. Big and small bangs and better and saver everyday// Yeah set the goal for this christmas, close enough i am sure!!


Went to ask what it was and Ghostbusters came on Who you gonna call // Ghos\tbusters // I AM afraid of no ghost..

So as Christ is calling Baby remember my name ( I m gonna live forever, fly to the sky like a flame, REMEMBER MY NAME///

and i get now why the I AM affirmations have made such a difference,


TURN YOUR RADIO ON, all the songs and really listen (was the red hot chili pepe album got me there, not jsut a flash this time enlightened, or Bob Marley walking like he talk it.. guess 10 year caribbean lazing payed off ,, soo relax)

Love is here and it is here to stay

I Love all of you




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Hi,

Have not really stressed this, maybe. Healing took place in jumps around massage and crystals. Myrrh and aloe and scented oils.

See the boys next door. They spend their day drawing the Volcom logo, their T-shirts have a crystal heart. Woke up remembering the feeling of my last massage, when the masseuse put a crystal on my heart. That very large and clear crystal really got it off my chest.

Gonna get me that crystal in my heart.

Love





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