SDGE says no way to get Smart Meters removed

Well I don't believe it is a conspiracy. However, Big Business funds politicians so they back & protect them. Govt doesn't really get the health aspects of this stuff so much. But they need to.
 
Loni

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It is an outrage. I really understand Govmnt conspiracy theorists now. I thought they were wackjobs but I think they are onto something. The Govmnt, is clearly not on our side and our 'democracry' is a sham.
Steve

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Did you ask them about the prepay analog option they offer in Arizona???? LOni

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They offered no recourse at all, just said they won't put back the analogue meter

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PG& E in Cali is the co that they are banning the smart meters in those two towns. It seems to me that there should be something you can do & they are aware of the public's concern. Push on!  Loni

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Thank for response me. 
Yes, I did call PG&E that I want to remove Smart Meter because EMF. She said FCC approve smart meter.  She said Radio .  Sound like she refuse to remove smart meter.  I need to think.  I did call CPUC that I want to remove smart meter but she said I can't remove smart meter because once installed it.  Where is my right?  I moved into my house and never saw smart meter until I found out that bill is higher than Los Angeles, CA!

 www.turn.org

Thank
Donna
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Maureen,

 

You can call your utility co & voice your concern & tell them you don't want to be exposed to their smart meters. Intelligently & diplomatically. Prepare what you want to say & then make the effort. That's the only thing we can do and numbers talk! We can also join forces with the orgnizations that are trying to do something about the smart meters & the cell antennas. That is what I am doing.

 

We must all act; it's the only way to make change & spread awareness!  Loni

 

 

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What is it going to take. I know the City of Marina is opposing smart meters and haven't allow them.  It is ridiculous that we are bombarded  and don't have a say on it.

Maureen

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> PG& E in Cali is the co that they are banning the smart meters in those
> two towns. It seems to me that there should be something you can do &
> they are aware of the public's concern. Push on! 

I suppose one might complain directly to the FCC as well... after all,
they are the ones who have claimed that these are "safe".  I suspect
they didn't mean safe for EVERYONE, but rather just "healthy people".

Marc

I still haven't gotten rid of the cough and sinus issue. Its been over a week.

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No, he was just insistent that there is no way out. Also, the Meters for the other 2 apartments are attached there also so if i just got mine removed, I'm not sure how much difference it would make. I can't ask them to prepay also so that wouldnt really work anyway.

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> I still haven't gotten rid of the cough and sinus issue. Its been over a
> week.

I realize that you are blaming your cough and sinus issues on the
smart meters, but I'd like to point out that my wife has had
a cough and sinus issue for the past week, and we have NO smart
meters in the area...

Marc

No research has been done regarding the health effects of
Radio-broadcasting utility meters.  

Research done regarding the health effects of chronic exposure to RF from
other sources definitely shows harmful health effects.  

It's true that present federal regulations allow this kind of exposure, but
it's also true that a federal spokesperson has admitted that the
regulations do not offer safety regarding exposure to non-ionizing radiation.

If you are debilitated when   you are exposed to radio-frequency radiation,
and you have a doctor who will confirm this in a letter, you may indeed be
able to get an RF-broadcasting meter removed.   It is easier not to get one
installed than to get one removed,.   So far everyone who has tried the
particular tactic I referred to here recently has succeeded in not having one
installed.   I don't now how successful they have been at getting one removed.

I'm not outlining the steps you need to take here because they are quite
specific and people benefit from a bit of help with the specifics.    If you
are interested, contact me and I'll put you in touch with the person who is
helping folks with this process.

I repeat that what worked for me was a letter from my doctor in combination
with sending the utility company quite a few studies showing that RF is
indeed harmful and telling them that I was keeping a record of everything I
sent them, so that if the issue went to court they could not say they didn't
know the RF was harmful.    If you send them items by mail, keep a log and
send by a form of mail that certifies delivery.   If you send by e-mail, ask
the representative to acknowledge each message you send.  

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com





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Have you tried leaving the area on a fresh camping trip to see if your symptoms disapear?
 
Loni

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I still haven't gotten rid of the cough and sinus issue. Its been over a week.

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Oh I didn't know you were in an apartment. Yikes. Loni

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No, he was just insistent that there is no way out. Also, the Meters for the other 2 apartments are attached there also so if i just got mine removed, I'm not sure how much difference it would make. I can't ask them to prepay also so that wouldnt really work anyway.

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The way to test is to remove yourself from the exposure for a while & see how you do. Loni

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> I still haven't gotten rid of the cough and sinus issue. Its been over a
> week.

I realize that you are blaming your cough and sinus issues on the
smart meters, but I'd like to point out that my wife has had
a cough and sinus issue for the past week, and we have NO smart
meters in the area...

Marc








     

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> Oh I didn't know you were in an apartment. Yikes. Loni

Yes, just think about complexes where there be many smart meters
all lined up next to each other, and whoever is unlucky enough
to be living right next to them!

Marc

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> If you are debilitated when   you are exposed to radio-frequency radiation,
> and you have a doctor who will confirm this in a letter, you may indeed be
> able to get an RF-broadcasting meter removed.   It is easier not to get one
> installed than to get one removed,.   So far everyone who has tried the
> particular tactic I referred to here recently has succeeded in not having one
> installed.  

Question:  How did your doctor test you to determine that you were debilitated when exposed to RF radiation?  The cause/effect relationship is pretty hard to prove... like with cell phones.  I don't know a doctor who would touch this controversy.

Marji

I know, its probably a coincidence. It was just strange that I woke up the morning it was installed with a swollen wrist for no reason at all and then I got sick and stayed that way. Maybe there is no connection at all but it was just odd.

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No, I really can't get away but it would be nice to see if it made a difference.

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> Have you tried leaving the area on a fresh camping trip to see if your symptoms disapear?
>  
> Loni
>

Yup, there are 6 stacked right there outside my wall.

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> > Oh I didn't know you were in an apartment. Yikes. Loni
>
> Yes, just think about complexes where there be many smart meters
> all lined up next to each other, and whoever is unlucky enough
> to be living right next to them!
>
> Marc
>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuP_WBBr2c

Worth putting some plants against a smart meter?
Best
Giles


     

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Steve, I really do think there is a connection. Are you feeling any better yet?  LOni

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I know, its probably a coincidence. It was just strange that I woke up the morning it was installed with a swollen wrist for no reason at all and then I got sick and stayed that way. Maybe there is no connection at all but it was just odd.

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Steve, You have 6 smart meters outside your wall!

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Yup, there are 6 stacked right there outside my wall.

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> > Oh I didn't know you were in an apartment. Yikes. Loni
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> Yes, just think about complexes where there be many smart meters
> all lined up next to each other, and whoever is unlucky enough
> to be living right next to them!
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> Marc
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Did you see that video Marc of all the smart meters & the detector going nuts?  Loni

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> Oh I didn't know you were in an apartment. Yikes. Loni

Yes, just think about complexes where there be many smart meters
all lined up next to each other, and whoever is unlucky enough
to be living right next to them!

Marc








     

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