Routers and wireless accesspoints - how safe?

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Routers and wireless accesspoints - how safe?

sake
Currently got a new sagemcom cablerouter with wifi from my cable provider. But not long after I set it up yesterday at 3,5m distance ! I felt something in my forehead in the direction of the modem where I never use feel anything. Then I slept for an hour and Wake up With real pain in one of my temple, something Ive never had after a sleep. Today also I got headache in my fronthead some minutes after I turned it on. And the problem was still there  after disabling the wifi. It have to be the most terrible router/modem/accesspoint I've ever had. Several years ago I had a D-Link dir 655 router which I also had to set at 2,5m to 3m away from me With dasabled wifi but then I did't have symptoms.

What are your experiences With how long away from you Your modem, router or wifi Equipment must be to not have adverse Health effects on you? What are Methods or solutions to handle the problem?
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Marc Martin
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The most obvious solution is not use wi-fi at all, and used ethernet cables instead.  Other than that, I believe there are routers that allow you to turn the range down, reduce the frequency of the beacon signal, etc.

Marc

 
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emil
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Yes, this is a common problem.
 
Note two things:
1- routers are grossly overpowered. You know this is true because you can pick up your neighbor's router several houses away.
2- routers will emit RF, even after you disable wifi
 
Best solution: get a router which does not have wifi capability and run Cat 5 cable for the connection
 
Next Best: turn off the wifi (both at the computer and at the router) and run Cat5, AND shield the router. Wrap it is Canopy Mesh, 2 layers https://www.lessemf.com/fabric3.html#1208
This material allows air flow and gives good shielding
 
And finally, if you MUST use wifi, position the router as far away from the people as you can. Shield it with the Signal Tamer https://www.lessemf.com/computer.html#220 AND turn it off when not in use.
 
In addition, if you have a specific area of the body which needs additional shielding, you can always use a shielded garment. Take a look here for shielded hats, shirts, gloves, etc. https://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
 
 
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Less EMF Inc.
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Latham NY 12110  USA
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Currently got a new sagemcom cablerouter with wifi from my cable provider. But not long after I set it up at 3,5m distance ! I felt something in my forehead in the direction of the modem where I never use to get headache. Today also I got it some minutes after I turned it on. And the problem was still there  after disabling the wifi. It have to be the most terrible router/modem/accesspoint I've ever had. Several years ago I had a D-Link dir 655 router which I also had to set at 2,5m to 3m but then I did't have symptoms.

What are yout experiences With how long away from you Your modem, router or wifi Equipment must be to not have adverse Health effects on you? What are Methods or solutions to handle the problem?


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sake
Hei. Why do routers/modems With wifi still emit wifi signals if you have turned wifi off? Is this the case for every Product out there. And is it like the wifi RF transmitter is 100% powerful and working but just not communicating the ssid and sending data, but like still just as worse as if the wifi is turned on?
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Marc Martin
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Yes, every piece of electronics emits something.  It can come from the power supply, or the internal electronics.  And sometimes I've found that the non-wireless part of a device is worse than the wireless part.

I did a trade study on a variety of DSL and cable modems, and noted that my reaction to all of them was a bit different.  And none of them had wi-fi.

Marc
 
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sailplane
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sake wrote
Hei. Why do routers/modems With wifi still emit wifi signals if you have turned wifi off? Is this the case for every Product out there. And is it like the wifi RF transmitter is 100% powerful and working but just not communicating the ssid and sending data, but like still just as worse as if the wifi is turned on?
I haven't found a WiFi router that when set to "Off" for Wifi still emits anything. They all turn off the transmitter that I have tested.
My Toyota also turns off the Bluetooth transmitter when I uncheck the power for it.
Older Mazda you have to unpair all phones and then Bluetooth turn off.  Any phone in the memory and it will stay on forever.

So almost all things can be turned off, but you have to be careful. You may forget WiFi enabled on a phone and have no Wifi in the house, but the phone will keep emitting while searching for a connection.  Everything must be constantly set to off all the time.

Xbox360 emits wifi all the time even when off, that's the one thing I found that cannot ever be turned off, no matter what. Just unplugged.  Some people say it uses as much electricity as a fridge.

You really need a meter to make sure no device is being sneaky and radiating anyway, can't rely on the off button.

Regarding in use or not.  It's almost same thing if it's in use or not.  Idle is better, but not by much.  Remember that there is a pulse 10 times each second broadcasting the SSID, so that's plenty of radiation already.  In use, it will much more, so watching a video will definitely be a lot worse, but idle is already bad enough if you have ES.
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sourdoe83
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I'm living in it and don't have a choice right now, it's in another room and my PC and PS4 is wired to it. My controllers are also all wired. Whenever I'm in the same room as it or even stand outside it I can feel the pulses. It feels like an invisible wave of anxiety inducing tension. When it was in my space for a very short time when I first moved here I couldn't even sleep and also felt it in my forehead the most with visual and auditory problems. I found that calming down your nervous system can reduce some of stress though if you aren't in a good situation and have to take it. Also eat clean because I found that consuming soy for example was making my ES worse.