Reverse Oxidative Stress, Ros, Redox

Just came across this info on a MCS forum.

I have not read up about the product yet.

It sounds like a good step in the right direction.

from all I read, few would benefit taking antioxidants
if not addressing methylation and other cellular processes.

Hum, so far, little science in those vids, more like a promo!!

http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/asea-antioxidant-order-direct-p-1188.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6veAiMfcHHE

It might work here:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6veAiMfcHHE

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It sounds very promising but when you try to find out what is in it that makes it work the only thing that you can find is that it has distilled water& sodium chloride. they then say it's about how it's all formulated basically to make it work inside the body.
 
It's worth a try maybe but I'm not too fond of multilevel marketing companies. Such a production to even get to sample it ya know?
 
I did come across Prtandim while researching & there are some news videos &testimonials & some scientific tests to prove it's viability.
 
Anyway, either of these products sounds hopeful. I know I have very little SOD & glutithione.
I do inject the glute & there are suppliments for SOD. Not sure about catalase.
 
Great info-thanks!  Loni

--- On Wed, 9/1/10, furstc0404 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Reverse Oxidative Stress, Ros, Redox
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Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:05 AM


 





Just came across this info on a MCS forum.

I have not read up about the product yet.

It sounds like a good step in the right direction.

from all I read, few would benefit taking antioxidants
if not addressing methylation and other cellular processes.

Hum, so far, little science in those vids, more like a promo!!

http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/asea-antioxidant-order-direct-p-1188.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6veAiMfcHHE

It might work here:

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6veAiMfcHHE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_GB"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6veAiMfcHHE?fs=1&amp;hl=en_GB" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6veAiMfcHHE

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Yes, it sounds good, and like you, I didn't appreciate
the Corp and the marketing. So reminiscent of Big Pharma.

Now, I would like to find out what process did they apply
to the salt and water, and ask some friends of mine who
studied physics.

Surely, this would be written about in some scientific
journals?

Kooky


--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

Hi Kooky,
 
I'm going to do some research on it & talk to some of these people marketing it. Take a look at the Protandim.
 
Loni

--- On Wed, 9/1/10, furstc0404 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: furstc0404 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Reverse Oxidative Stress, Ros, Redox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 3:16 PM


 




Yes, it sounds good, and like you, I didn't appreciate
the Corp and the marketing. So reminiscent of Big Pharma.

Now, I would like to find out what process did they apply
to the salt and water, and ask some friends of mine who
studied physics.

Surely, this would be written about in some scientific
journals?

Kooky

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:








     

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looks like a scam to me.

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

In the Asea-video, they mention the word "perfect" an awful lot!

If it's too good to be true, it mostly is not! ;-)


If you're interested in Dr Jerry Tennant's view on Oxidative therapy, read below, I've copy/pasted some extracts from his book on this. May be useful,don't have a clue if Tennant is (also) right on this! Anyway, sounds to melike risky stuff!


from "Healing is Voltage" by Tennant (pag. 289-291):

...What oxidation means is that an electron stealer is "mugging you" and stealing your electrons. In the process, the mugger hurts or kills you.

Oxidation describes the loss of electrons / hydrogen or gain of oxygen / increase in oxidation state by a molecule, atom or ion. Reduction describes the gain of electrons / hydrogen or a loss of oxygen / decrease in oxidationstate by a molecule, atom or ion...

...One can stimulate the normal way the body kills bacteria by consuming orgetting IV hydrogen peroxide or ozone. Ozone is rarely given orally but isoften given rectally or vaginally. More commonly it is given intravenously. Such oxidative therapies are extremely effective...

...YOU MUST REMEMBER, HOWEVER, THAT YOU ARE CONSUMING ELECTRON STEALERS. TAKEN OVER THE LONG TERM, THEY CAN LOWER YOUR BODY VOLTAGE AND CAUSES ALL OF THE PROBLEMS LISTED ABOVE. IF YOU START USING OXIDATIVE THERAPY WHEN YOUR TOTAL BODY VOLTAGE IS ALREADY LOW, YOUR BODY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE DEAD BUGS AND IT CAN MAKE YOU FEEL TERRIBLE. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR TOTAL BODY VOLTAGE BEFORE YOU START TREATMENT WITH OXIDATIVE THERAPY LIKE OZONE OR HYDROGEN PEROXIDE...

An oxidative therapy that is considered to be a nutrient is sodium chlorite. Is is sold under the name MMS (miracle mineral supplement). The free acid, chlorous acid, HClO2, is only stable at low concentrations. Since it cannot be concentrated, it is not a commercial product. However, the corresponding sodium salt, sodium chlorite NaClO2 is stable and inexpensive enough tobe commercially available...

...Whenever it [sodium chlorite] finds a microorganism, it releases the chloride. That steals electrons from the organism, killing it immediately. Allthat is left is that the two oxygens make water and the dead bug...

...I have yet to find any virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus, parasite, or poions it [sodium chlorite] will not destroy...

...There is only one human case in the medical literature of chlorite poisoning. Theoretically it could cause life threatening hemolysis in Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase deficient persons.






--- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote:

Yes, this is similar to Jim Humble's theory
about MMS which is sold on the Internet,

Anyone tried MMS?

Kooky

--- On Thu, 9/2/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Reverse Oxidative Stress, Ros, Redox
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 7:09 AM







 



 


   
     
     
In the Asea-video, they mention the word "perfect" an awful lot!



If it's too good to be true, it mostly is not! ;-)



If you're interested in Dr Jerry Tennant's view on Oxidative therapy, read below, I've copy/pasted some extracts from his book on this. May be useful,don't have a clue if Tennant is (also) right on this! Anyway, sounds to melike risky stuff!



from "Healing is Voltage" by Tennant (pag. 289-291):



...What oxidation means is that an electron stealer is "mugging you" and stealing your electrons. In the process, the mugger hurts or kills you.



Oxidation describes the loss of electrons / hydrogen or gain of oxygen / increase in oxidation state by a molecule, atom or ion. Reduction describes the gain of electrons / hydrogen or a loss of oxygen / decrease in oxidationstate by a molecule, atom or ion...



...One can stimulate the normal way the body kills bacteria by consuming orgetting IV hydrogen peroxide or ozone. Ozone is rarely given orally but isoften given rectally or vaginally. More commonly it is given intravenously. Such oxidative therapies are extremely effective...



...YOU MUST REMEMBER, HOWEVER, THAT YOU ARE CONSUMING ELECTRON STEALERS. TAKEN OVER THE LONG TERM, THEY CAN LOWER YOUR BODY VOLTAGE AND CAUSES ALL OF THE PROBLEMS LISTED ABOVE. IF YOU START USING OXIDATIVE THERAPY WHEN YOUR TOTAL BODY VOLTAGE IS ALREADY LOW, YOUR BODY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE DEAD BUGS AND IT CAN MAKE YOU FEEL TERRIBLE. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR TOTAL BODY VOLTAGE BEFORE YOU START TREATMENT WITH OXIDATIVE THERAPY LIKE OZONE OR HYDROGEN PEROXIDE...



An oxidative therapy that is considered to be a nutrient is sodium chlorite. Is is sold under the name MMS (miracle mineral supplement). The free acid, chlorous acid, HClO2, is only stable at low concentrations. Since it cannot be concentrated, it is not a commercial product. However, the corresponding sodium salt, sodium chlorite NaClO2 is stable and inexpensive enough tobe commercially available...



...Whenever it [sodium chlorite] finds a microorganism, it releases the chloride. That steals electrons from the organism, killing it immediately. Allthat is left is that the two oxygens make water and the dead bug...



...I have yet to find any virus, bacteria, yeast, fungus, parasite, or poions it [sodium chlorite] will not destroy...



...There is only one human case in the medical literature of chlorite poisoning. Theoretically it could cause life threatening hemolysis in Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase deficient persons.



--- In [hidden email], "furstc0404" <furstc0404@...> wrote:

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>

> Yes, it sounds good, and like you, I didn't appreciate

> the Corp and the marketing. So reminiscent of Big Pharma.

>

> Now, I would like to find out what process did they apply

> to the salt and water, and ask some friends of mine who

> studied physics.

>

> Surely, this would be written about in some scientific

> journals?

>

> Kooky

>

>

> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:

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> > It sounds very promising but when you try to find out what is in it that makes it work the only thing that you can find is that it has distilled water & sodium chloride. they then say it's about how it's all formulated basically to make it work inside the body.

> >  

> > It's worth a try maybe but I'm not too fond of multilevel marketing companies. Such a production to even get to sample it ya know?

> >  

> > I did come across Prtandim while researching & there are some news videos & testimonials & some scientific tests to prove it's viability.

> >  

> > Anyway, either of these products sounds hopeful. I know I have very little SOD & glutithione.

> > I do inject the glute & there are suppliments for SOD. Not sure about catalase.

> >  

> > Great info-thanks!  Loni

> >

> > --- On Wed, 9/1/10, furstc0404 <furstc0404@> wrote:

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> > From: furstc0404 <furstc0404@>

> > Subject: [eSens] Reverse Oxidative Stress, Ros, Redox

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> > Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:05 AM

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> > Just came across this info on a MCS forum.

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> > I have not read up about the product yet.

> >

> > It sounds like a good step in the right direction.

> >

> > From all I read, few would benefit taking antioxidants

> > if not addressing methylation and other cellular processes.

> >

> > Hum, so far, little science in those vids, more like a promo!!

> >

> > http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/asea-antioxidant-order-direct-p-1188.html

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6veAiMfcHHE

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> > It might work here:

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