"Removing ground loops"

>
>
> An electrician friend just came in and I asked him what ground loops were
> and he did not know. Could someone explain what that they are? TIA
>
> --- On Sat, 20/6/09, laurel canyon <[hidden email]<laurelarc%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: laurel canyon <[hidden email] <laurelarc%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 7:43 PM
>
>
> Bill Bruno wrote:
> My house was about .08 when I moved in. Removing ground loops got it to
> > .03.
>
>
>
> What are ground loops and can any electrician remove them.. or anyone else,
> like myself?
> \
> TIA
>
> Laurel
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> An electrician friend just came in and I asked him what ground loops were
> and he did not know. Could someone explain what that they are? TIA
>
> --- On Sat, 20/6/09, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com<laurelarc%40yahoo. com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com <laurelarc%40yahoo. com>>
> Subject: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> Received: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 7:43 PM
>
>
> Bill Bruno wrote:
> My house was about .08 when I moved in. Removing ground loops got it to
> > .03.
>
>
>
> What are ground loops and can any electrician remove them.. or anyone else,
> like myself?
> \
> TIA
>
> Laurel
>
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>
> thankyou so much, Bill,
>
> i have been reading forever to try to find this very info. i find
> references which speak of it but never address how to fix it. i
> highly appreciate the time you took to answer this for Laurel and i
> know it will be of great help to many others, including me.
>
> thanks again,
> diane
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:36 PM
>
> The ideal grounding system has one single point where everything is
> grounded,
> and ground wires never form a loop. People who care about interference
> know about this... especially sensitive electronic equipment.
>
> If the electric system ground is connected to the plumbing in two
> places,
> you have a ground
> loop. Since your neighbor's connection counts, you probably don't
> want any
> connection,
> but one is much better than two (and your electrician may insist, and
> legally should
> insist, on one... but it's not that hard to disconnect it yourself.
> A more
> code
> compliant way is to get a plumber to add some plastic tubing or a
> dielectric
> union. One should be careful not to hold both sides of where you're
> disconnecting
> and pull apart... if there is a large inductance and substantial
> current
> (usually it's
> tiny) you could die. When cutting a pipe, having a jumper wire
> across the
> cut
> and then pulling the wire off with one hand (or better, rubber glove
> or
> insulated pliers)
> ensures it's safe. Usually only an issue if you're cutting a water
> main
> which
> could carry lots of current, but in some cases your home ground
> wires could
> too.
>
> Note that a loose connection is even worse than a loop, so make sure
> you
> break
> the connection and secure so it doesn't go back.
>
> Also note that if your whole yard is at the same field level as the
> house,
> or there's
> a big power line, the effect of the ground loops may be too small to
> notice
> any
> improvement.
>
> Another kind of ground loop is when the ground wires for different
> circuits
> are connected
> behind say a light switch. This loop will tend to spread the field
> at the
> panel throughout
> the house. 240 volt appliances like dryers or stoves could also have a
> ground loop
> from tying the ground to neutral. But this is typically not so
> terrible
> because both wires
> stay in the same cable and so the loop area is small. But appliances
> where
> water and
> gas lines meet the electrical system (dishwasher, refrigerator ice
> maker,
> stove, furnace)
> are very likely to create such loops. These days you can easily find
> vinyl
> hose connectors
> for a dishwasher which will isolate it from the water pipes. Same
> for an
> ice maker. For gas appliances, get
> a plumber who knows about gas dielectric unions. But first check
> that there
> is current in the pipe
> near the appliance. Use a very sensitive Gauss meter, and see if the
> field
> gets a bit higher
> near the pipe. Actually I prefer to use a cheap "telephone listener"
> or
> buzz stick for this.
> You want something that can measure very close to the pipe. Be sure
> to try
> different
> orientations if you didn't study magnetic fields in physics class.
> This is
> actually quite
> sensitive and the electrician' s current meter won't detect it. If
> the loop
> is big a few milliamps
> is worth fixing (if there are no worse sources covering the area).
>
> I'm assuming you've already taken care of any crossed neutral wires.
> These
> are worse than
> ground loops. These are explained in Ed Leeper's book Silencing the
> Fields. If the field
> goes up in the whole room when you turn on a 3-way switch, you need to
> separate the
> neutrals for the different circuits. While you're at it separate the
> ground
> wires too, and you've
> fixed a ground loop.
>
> In my house the worst ground loops were caused by new wires added
> and the
> ground
> connected loosely to the old ground wire.
>
> Walk around the house with a gauss meter, when the fridge and other
> motors
> are off,
> and try to figure out what's causing the hot spots. Sometimes fixing
> those
> will lower
> the field in whole house. I think I still have one or two ground
> loops, but
> you can't
> even find the minor ones until the major ones are fixed.
>
> Bill
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > An electrician friend just came in and I asked him what ground
> loops were
> > and he did not know. Could someone explain what that they are? TIA
> >
> > --- On Sat, 20/6/09, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com<laurelarc
> %40yahoo. com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com <laurelarc%40yahoo. com>>
> > Subject: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> > Received: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 7:43 PM
> >
> >
> > Bill Bruno wrote:
> > My house was about .08 when I moved in. Removing ground loops got
> it to
> > > .03.
> >
> >
> >
> > What are ground loops and can any electrician remove them.. or
> anyone else,
> > like myself?
> > \
> > TIA
> >
> > Laurel
> >
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>
> This video explains how to do it.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuqzglm8GO4&feature=channel_page
>
>
> On 21-Jun-09, at 11:46 AM, Evie wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > thankyou so much, Bill,
> >
> > i have been reading forever to try to find this very info. i find
> > references which speak of it but never address how to fix it. i
> > highly appreciate the time you took to answer this for Laurel and i
> > know it will be of great help to many others, including me.
> >
> > thanks again,
> > diane
> >
> > --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:36 PM
> >
> > The ideal grounding system has one single point where everything is
> > grounded,
> > and ground wires never form a loop. People who care about interference
> > know about this... especially sensitive electronic equipment.
> >
> > If the electric system ground is connected to the plumbing in two
> > places,
> > you have a ground
> > loop. Since your neighbor's connection counts, you probably don't
> > want any
> > connection,
> > but one is much better than two (and your electrician may insist, and
> > legally should
> > insist, on one... but it's not that hard to disconnect it yourself.
> > A more
> > code
> > compliant way is to get a plumber to add some plastic tubing or a
> > dielectric
> > union. One should be careful not to hold both sides of where you're
> > disconnecting
> > and pull apart... if there is a large inductance and substantial
> > current
> > (usually it's
> > tiny) you could die. When cutting a pipe, having a jumper wire
> > across the
> > cut
> > and then pulling the wire off with one hand (or better, rubber glove
> > or
> > insulated pliers)
> > ensures it's safe. Usually only an issue if you're cutting a water
> > main
> > which
> > could carry lots of current, but in some cases your home ground
> > wires could
> > too.
> >
> > Note that a loose connection is even worse than a loop, so make sure
> > you
> > break
> > the connection and secure so it doesn't go back.
> >
> > Also note that if your whole yard is at the same field level as the
> > house,
> > or there's
> > a big power line, the effect of the ground loops may be too small to
> > notice
> > any
> > improvement.
> >
> > Another kind of ground loop is when the ground wires for different
> > circuits
> > are connected
> > behind say a light switch. This loop will tend to spread the field
> > at the
> > panel throughout
> > the house. 240 volt appliances like dryers or stoves could also have a
> > ground loop
> > from tying the ground to neutral. But this is typically not so
> > terrible
> > because both wires
> > stay in the same cable and so the loop area is small. But appliances
> > where
> > water and
> > gas lines meet the electrical system (dishwasher, refrigerator ice
> > maker,
> > stove, furnace)
> > are very likely to create such loops. These days you can easily find
> > vinyl
> > hose connectors
> > for a dishwasher which will isolate it from the water pipes. Same
> > for an
> > ice maker. For gas appliances, get
> > a plumber who knows about gas dielectric unions. But first check
> > that there
> > is current in the pipe
> > near the appliance. Use a very sensitive Gauss meter, and see if the
> > field
> > gets a bit higher
> > near the pipe. Actually I prefer to use a cheap "telephone listener"
> > or
> > buzz stick for this.
> > You want something that can measure very close to the pipe. Be sure
> > to try
> > different
> > orientations if you didn't study magnetic fields in physics class.
> > This is
> > actually quite
> > sensitive and the electrician' s current meter won't detect it. If
> > the loop
> > is big a few milliamps
> > is worth fixing (if there are no worse sources covering the area).
> >
> > I'm assuming you've already taken care of any crossed neutral wires.
> > These
> > are worse than
> > ground loops. These are explained in Ed Leeper's book Silencing the
> > Fields. If the field
> > goes up in the whole room when you turn on a 3-way switch, you need to
> > separate the
> > neutrals for the different circuits. While you're at it separate the
> > ground
> > wires too, and you've
> > fixed a ground loop.
> >
> > In my house the worst ground loops were caused by new wires added
> > and the
> > ground
> > connected loosely to the old ground wire.
> >
> > Walk around the house with a gauss meter, when the fridge and other
> > motors
> > are off,
> > and try to figure out what's causing the hot spots. Sometimes fixing
> > those
> > will lower
> > the field in whole house. I think I still have one or two ground
> > loops, but
> > you can't
> > even find the minor ones until the major ones are fixed.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo.
> > com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > An electrician friend just came in and I asked him what ground
> > loops were
> > > and he did not know. Could someone explain what that they are? TIA
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 20/6/09, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com<laurelarc
> > %40yahoo. com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com <laurelarc%40yahoo. com>>
> > > Subject: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> > > Received: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 7:43 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Bruno wrote:
> > > My house was about .08 when I moved in. Removing ground loops got
> > it to
> > > > .03.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What are ground loops and can any electrician remove them.. or
> > anyone else,
> > > like myself?
> > > \
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Laurel
> > >
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>
>
> Thanks! I'd never seen a grounding plate before. How well do they
> work?
> I assume that's not a TT grounding system they did? I did not grasp
> the
> shot showing
> tape on the big ground wire, but it's still connected to the panel.
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Bob Connolly <[hidden email]
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > This video explains how to do it.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuqzglm8GO4&feature=channel_page
> >
> >
> > On 21-Jun-09, at 11:46 AM, Evie wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > thankyou so much, Bill,
> > >
> > > i have been reading forever to try to find this very info. i find
> > > references which speak of it but never address how to fix it. i
> > > highly appreciate the time you took to answer this for Laurel
> and i
> > > know it will be of great help to many others, including me.
> > >
> > > thanks again,
> > > diane
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno
> %40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:36 PM
> > >
> > > The ideal grounding system has one single point where everything
> is
> > > grounded,
> > > and ground wires never form a loop. People who care about
> interference
> > > know about this... especially sensitive electronic equipment.
> > >
> > > If the electric system ground is connected to the plumbing in two
> > > places,
> > > you have a ground
> > > loop. Since your neighbor's connection counts, you probably don't
> > > want any
> > > connection,
> > > but one is much better than two (and your electrician may
> insist, and
> > > legally should
> > > insist, on one... but it's not that hard to disconnect it
> yourself.
> > > A more
> > > code
> > > compliant way is to get a plumber to add some plastic tubing or a
> > > dielectric
> > > union. One should be careful not to hold both sides of where
> you're
> > > disconnecting
> > > and pull apart... if there is a large inductance and substantial
> > > current
> > > (usually it's
> > > tiny) you could die. When cutting a pipe, having a jumper wire
> > > across the
> > > cut
> > > and then pulling the wire off with one hand (or better, rubber
> glove
> > > or
> > > insulated pliers)
> > > ensures it's safe. Usually only an issue if you're cutting a water
> > > main
> > > which
> > > could carry lots of current, but in some cases your home ground
> > > wires could
> > > too.
> > >
> > > Note that a loose connection is even worse than a loop, so make
> sure
> > > you
> > > break
> > > the connection and secure so it doesn't go back.
> > >
> > > Also note that if your whole yard is at the same field level as
> the
> > > house,
> > > or there's
> > > a big power line, the effect of the ground loops may be too
> small to
> > > notice
> > > any
> > > improvement.
> > >
> > > Another kind of ground loop is when the ground wires for different
> > > circuits
> > > are connected
> > > behind say a light switch. This loop will tend to spread the field
> > > at the
> > > panel throughout
> > > the house. 240 volt appliances like dryers or stoves could also
> have a
> > > ground loop
> > > from tying the ground to neutral. But this is typically not so
> > > terrible
> > > because both wires
> > > stay in the same cable and so the loop area is small. But
> appliances
> > > where
> > > water and
> > > gas lines meet the electrical system (dishwasher, refrigerator ice
> > > maker,
> > > stove, furnace)
> > > are very likely to create such loops. These days you can easily
> find
> > > vinyl
> > > hose connectors
> > > for a dishwasher which will isolate it from the water pipes. Same
> > > for an
> > > ice maker. For gas appliances, get
> > > a plumber who knows about gas dielectric unions. But first check
> > > that there
> > > is current in the pipe
> > > near the appliance. Use a very sensitive Gauss meter, and see if
> the
> > > field
> > > gets a bit higher
> > > near the pipe. Actually I prefer to use a cheap "telephone
> listener"
> > > or
> > > buzz stick for this.
> > > You want something that can measure very close to the pipe. Be
> sure
> > > to try
> > > different
> > > orientations if you didn't study magnetic fields in physics class.
> > > This is
> > > actually quite
> > > sensitive and the electrician' s current meter won't detect it. If
> > > the loop
> > > is big a few milliamps
> > > is worth fixing (if there are no worse sources covering the area).
> > >
> > > I'm assuming you've already taken care of any crossed neutral
> wires.
> > > These
> > > are worse than
> > > ground loops. These are explained in Ed Leeper's book Silencing
> the
> > > Fields. If the field
> > > goes up in the whole room when you turn on a 3-way switch, you
> need to
> > > separate the
> > > neutrals for the different circuits. While you're at it separate
> the
> > > ground
> > > wires too, and you've
> > > fixed a ground loop.
> > >
> > > In my house the worst ground loops were caused by new wires added
> > > and the
> > > ground
> > > connected loosely to the old ground wire.
> > >
> > > Walk around the house with a gauss meter, when the fridge and
> other
> > > motors
> > > are off,
> > > and try to figure out what's causing the hot spots. Sometimes
> fixing
> > > those
> > > will lower
> > > the field in whole house. I think I still have one or two ground
> > > loops, but
> > > you can't
> > > even find the minor ones until the major ones are fixed.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo.
> > > com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > An electrician friend just came in and I asked him what ground
> > > loops were
> > > > and he did not know. Could someone explain what that they are?
> TIA
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sat, 20/6/09, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo.
> com<laurelarc
> > > %40yahoo. com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com <laurelarc%40yahoo.
> com>>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> > > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > Received: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 7:43 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill Bruno wrote:
> > > > My house was about .08 when I moved in. Removing ground loops
> got
> > > it to
> > > > > .03.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What are ground loops and can any electrician remove them.. or
> > > anyone else,
> > > > like myself?
> > > > \
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Laurel
> > > >
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>
> thankyou so much, Bill,
>
> i have been reading forever to try to find this very info. i find
> references which speak of it but never address how to fix it. i
> highly appreciate the time you took to answer this for Laurel and i
> know it will be of great help to many others, including me.
>
> thanks again,
> diane
>
> --- On Sat, 6/20/09, Bill Bruno <wbruno@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Bruno <wbruno@gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 11:36 PM
>
> The ideal grounding system has one single point where everything is
> grounded,
> and ground wires never form a loop. People who care about interference
> know about this... especially sensitive electronic equipment.
>
> If the electric system ground is connected to the plumbing in two
> places,
> you have a ground
> loop. Since your neighbor's connection counts, you probably don't
> want any
> connection,
> but one is much better than two (and your electrician may insist, and
> legally should
> insist, on one... but it's not that hard to disconnect it yourself.
> A more
> code
> compliant way is to get a plumber to add some plastic tubing or a
> dielectric
> union. One should be careful not to hold both sides of where you're
> disconnecting
> and pull apart... if there is a large inductance and substantial
> current
> (usually it's
> tiny) you could die. When cutting a pipe, having a jumper wire
> across the
> cut
> and then pulling the wire off with one hand (or better, rubber glove
> or
> insulated pliers)
> ensures it's safe. Usually only an issue if you're cutting a water
> main
> which
> could carry lots of current, but in some cases your home ground
> wires could
> too.
>
> Note that a loose connection is even worse than a loop, so make sure
> you
> break
> the connection and secure so it doesn't go back.
>
> Also note that if your whole yard is at the same field level as the
> house,
> or there's
> a big power line, the effect of the ground loops may be too small to
> notice
> any
> improvement.
>
> Another kind of ground loop is when the ground wires for different
> circuits
> are connected
> behind say a light switch. This loop will tend to spread the field
> at the
> panel throughout
> the house. 240 volt appliances like dryers or stoves could also have a
> ground loop
> from tying the ground to neutral. But this is typically not so
> terrible
> because both wires
> stay in the same cable and so the loop area is small. But appliances
> where
> water and
> gas lines meet the electrical system (dishwasher, refrigerator ice
> maker,
> stove, furnace)
> are very likely to create such loops. These days you can easily find
> vinyl
> hose connectors
> for a dishwasher which will isolate it from the water pipes. Same
> for an
> ice maker. For gas appliances, get
> a plumber who knows about gas dielectric unions. But first check
> that there
> is current in the pipe
> near the appliance. Use a very sensitive Gauss meter, and see if the
> field
> gets a bit higher
> near the pipe. Actually I prefer to use a cheap "telephone listener"
> or
> buzz stick for this.
> You want something that can measure very close to the pipe. Be sure
> to try
> different
> orientations if you didn't study magnetic fields in physics class.
> This is
> actually quite
> sensitive and the electrician' s current meter won't detect it. If
> the loop
> is big a few milliamps
> is worth fixing (if there are no worse sources covering the area).
>
> I'm assuming you've already taken care of any crossed neutral wires.
> These
> are worse than
> ground loops. These are explained in Ed Leeper's book Silencing the
> Fields. If the field
> goes up in the whole room when you turn on a 3-way switch, you need to
> separate the
> neutrals for the different circuits. While you're at it separate the
> ground
> wires too, and you've
> fixed a ground loop.
>
> In my house the worst ground loops were caused by new wires added
> and the
> ground
> connected loosely to the old ground wire.
>
> Walk around the house with a gauss meter, when the fridge and other
> motors
> are off,
> and try to figure out what's causing the hot spots. Sometimes fixing
> those
> will lower
> the field in whole house. I think I still have one or two ground
> loops, but
> you can't
> even find the minor ones until the major ones are fixed.
>
> Bill
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > An electrician friend just came in and I asked him what ground
> loops were
> > and he did not know. Could someone explain what that they are? TIA
> >
> > --- On Sat, 20/6/09, laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com<laurelarc
> %40yahoo. com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: laurel canyon <laurelarc@yahoo. com <laurelarc%40yahoo. com>>
> > Subject: [eSens] "Removing ground loops"
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> > Received: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 7:43 PM
> >
> >
> > Bill Bruno wrote:
> > My house was about .08 when I moved in. Removing ground loops got
> it to
> > > .03.
> >
> >
> >
> > What are ground loops and can any electrician remove them.. or
> anyone else,
> > like myself?
> > \
> > TIA
> >
> > Laurel
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