Dr. Johansson video interview about persons with electro sensitivity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pvZ7m7lFLco |
Dr.Johansson is among the minority of minorities of doctors who is ABSOLUTELY on target about so much. In fact, I'd gotten in touch with him long ago (before hardly anyone from the U.S. knew of him) and he responded in a "cynically-wise" way. He had every reason to have turned cynical, like myself.
It happens to most seekers of answers who become disillusioned with narcissistic authorities as well as disillusioned by a fickle public. He says the truth about so-called protective devices not helping. He says the truth about all these current gadgets with Video screens being Primary villains (also implying longer term effects on people who don't feel direct effects on their skin immediately). Which is EXACTLY what my experience had been (I've been an unaware guinea pig of Evil Big Industry for decades, until my fluky Epiphany, similar to that experienced by Helen Keller. Certainly no info from the media! In fact, when I'd contacted Samsung about what their horrible LCD had been doing to me, the witchy woman basically laughed in my face. Same experience with the general public, with doctors, even with a B$#@ naturopath bigshot who should have known better.
Electrostatically Yours,
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Olle Johansson is not right here.
See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina600.html as well as: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina300.html and: http://www.minderstraling.nl/Pagina060.html Electrosensitivity is a disease, and repairing the damaged immune system lowers the sensibility, as many formerly electrosensitive persons have proven. Johansson said in the video that there is *NO DIAGNOSIS*. In July 2013 he wrote to me: *Your 30 points plan, as well as your immune repair device, have they ever been tested in a controlled fashion, preferably by an independent laboratory/clinic?* When I asked him: *which independent laboratory/clinic is able to test whether a person is electrosensitive or not?* He then answered me: *Any medical laboratory could do it.* So he is contradicting himself. And he does not know about longitudinal waves. |
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Yes, I watched a YouTube interview with Olle Johannson a month or two ago,
and I thought that almost every conclusion he reached about ES could be argued with. Marc On February 19, "charles [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Olle Johansson is not right here. > See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina600.html > as well as: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina300.html > and: http://www.minderstraling.nl/Pagina060.html |
H Marc,
Could you give us some examples of what you would argue with about Dr. Johansson's conclusions on ES? Thanks! Sent from my hard wired computer. Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:12:32 -0800 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: Recent video of Professor Olle Johansson on ES Yes, I watched a YouTube interview with Olle Johannson a month or two ago, and I thought that almost every conclusion he reached about ES could be argued with. Marc On February 19, "charles [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Olle Johansson is not right here. > See: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina600.html > as well as: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina300.html > and: http://www.minderstraling.nl/Pagina060.html If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://es-forum.com/Recent-video-of-Professor-Olle-Johansson-on-ES-tp4027028p4027046.html |
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The point is, that there is a big difference between *normal* people and the *electrosensitives*.
Electrosensitives do feel something, that other persons do not and cannot feel. Scientist's only reckon with transversal waves, and refuse to consider the longitudinal waves, which play the most important part in the whole elektrosmog discussion. Longitudinal waves do travel a much farther way than transversal waves do. Longitudinal waves can be reflected in simple ways, as I have demonstrated on my chapter about LG. My wife was seriously electrosensitive, so we fled the Netherlands into Belgium. Now we live again in the Netherlands under circumstances, my wife considered impossible several years ago. However some small elektrosmog things can attack her. The last picture on my Pagina600 is a Russian device, where the display shows programmed numbers (Grabovoi). The display needs 5V and 2 Amp. The first time I used it, my wife fled the appartment. But since I shielded it according to Gebbensleben, it stands beside her, continuously! Aso other electrosensitives did place this aluminium tape around electricity cablings, and stated that the house felt *quiteter*. The point is, that most *protection devices*, like for instance the ones Marc uses, do nothing about the transversal waves, and with meters, nothing can be measured. But the longitudinal waves of the elektrosmog are influenced by these *gizmo's*, and that is something scientist's like Olle Johansson do not and will not understand. But electrosensitives do *feel* if a *gizmo* works or not. And that is the only thing that counts. Imho. |
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On February 19, "Fog Top [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Could you give us some examples of what you would argue with about Dr. Johansson's conclusions on ES? Thanks! I'd have to find that video again to remind myself... it just seemed like he really wasn't that much of an expert at all, since many of his findings/beliefs contradicted the experiences we seen on these discussion groups. Marc |
If you find the Johansson video, would you please post it here? You've got me very curious about what Dr. Johansson said. He's been a hero to me. He's kept telling the truth about the dangers of EMF even when his position at the Karolina Institute was at stake. He travels around the world telling anyone who will listen that electro sensitivity is very real and there there needs to be compassion for the plight of ES people.
Sent from my hard wired computer. Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:57:13 -0800 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: [ES] Re: RE: Re: Recent video of Professor Olle Johansson on ES On February 19, "Fog Top [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Could you give us some examples of what you would argue with about Dr. Johansson's conclusions on ES? Thanks! I'd have to find that video again to remind myself... it just seemed like he really wasn't that much of an expert at all, since many of his findings/beliefs contradicted the experiences we seen on these discussion groups. Marc If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://es-forum.com/Recent-video-of-Professor-Olle-Johansson-on-ES-tp4027028p4027049.html |
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Oh, I don't disagree that ES is real... he's got that part right. :-)
The video I was referring to is here -- it was posted on a Facebook group a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yij7UX7WjQ&feature=youtu.be Marc On February 20, "Fog Top [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote: > If you find the Johansson video, would you please post it here? > You've got me very curious about what Dr. Johansson said. |
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