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mjd
Hi, not sure if anyone can help, but thought I'd try! Our home was built in 1979, a double brick house, we were always concerned about the fact that the Electricity Meter/Box was on the outside of our house, but right behind our bed head.

I got a cheap meter testing device and it gave me these readings (see attached image) when I put the meter on the wall, they decline slightly when moved to where our bodies are, I'll now get someone out to do proper readings.

We're having trouble having a baby, and the people that build the house, and lived in it for 32 years before we bought it from them never had kids, they slept in the same room in the same place.

Just trying to get some guidance on what these figures mean and what to do next, we're already moved into the spare bedroom, but don't want to leave it as people come and stay, we also want to find out if this could be causing the issues falling pregnant and what the damage might be, if it is, is it permanent! Appreciate people may not be able to give that advice on here, but if I can get advice on the readings and levels we can go get medical advice.

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NoRadiationForYou
Hello
This meter is good only for detecting the sources.
It will show ELF levels only when very very very close to the source (like 10 cm).
The only time you should measure next to the source is when you want to detect the sources
In other cases EMF measurements should be taken where people stay, not next to sources.
So I am afraid these reading don't say anything but that you found one of the sources.
You need a proper EMF meter and to test both ELF magnetic, ELF electric and Radio Frequencies Radiation.
Thanks and best regards
amirb

I hope this info helps.
Thanks and best regards
Amir Borenstein

Minimize the use of cellphone and wireless
devices before the use minimizes you!
SENT FROM A WIRED CONNECTION!!!


On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:17 AM, mjd [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi, not sure if anyone can help, but thought I'd try! Our home was built in 1979, a double brick house, we were always concerned about the fact that the Electricity Meter/Box was on the outside of our house, but right behind our bed head.

I got a cheap meter testing device and it gave me these readings (see attached image) when I put the meter on the wall, they decline slightly when moved to where our bodies are, I'll now get someone out to do proper readings.

We're having trouble having a baby, and the people that build the house, and lived in it for 32 years before we bought it from them never had kids, they slept in the same room in the same place.

Just trying to get some guidance on what these figures mean and what to do next, we're already moved into the spare bedroom, but don't want to leave it as people come and stay, we also want to find out if this could be causing the issues falling pregnant and what the damage might be, if it is, is it permanent! Appreciate people may not be able to give that advice on here, but if I can get advice on the readings and levels we can go get medical advice.




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To MJD:

Being a person who live in an area with a .3 mG or higher magnetic field, I was stunned to see that you are sleeping in a 108 mG (=10.76 uT microtesla) field.  ELF has been associated with suppression of melatonin production, cancers, Alzheimers...  Do a web search on 'melatonin and infertility' for studies showing their relationship. 

What reads do you get throughout the rest of your house?  I would suggest moving your bed out of its current location and preferably to one below .3 mG (.03 uT). 


BioInitiative 2012 Report: http://www.bioinitiative.org/report/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/sec13_2012_ELF_Melatonin_Alzheimers_Breast_cancer.pdf

"The most serious health endpoints that have been reported to be associated with extremely low frequency (ELF) and/or radiofrequency radiation (RFR) include childhood and adult leukemia, childhood and adult brain tumors, and increased risk of the neurodegenerative diseases, Alzheimer’s and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). In addition, there are reports of increased risk of breast cancer in both men and women, genotoxic effects (DNA damage, chromatin condensation, micronucleation, impaired repair of DNA damage in human stem cells), pathological leakage of the blood–brain barrier, altered immune function including increased allergic and inflammatory responses, miscarriage and some cardiovascular effects.





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Hi, not sure if anyone can help, but thought I'd try! Our home was built in 1979, a double brick house, we were always concerned about the fact that the Electricity Meter/Box was on the outside of our house, but right behind our bed head.

I got a cheap meter testing device and it gave me these readings (see attached image) when I put the meter on the wall, they decline slightly when moved to where our bodies are, I'll now get someone out to do proper readings.

We're having trouble having a baby, and the people that build the house, and lived in it for 32 years before we bought it from them never had kids, they slept in the same room in the same place.

Just trying to get some guidance on what these figures mean and what to do next, we're already moved into the spare bedroom, but don't want to leave it as people come and stay, we also want to find out if this could be causing the issues falling pregnant and what the damage might be, if it is, is it permanent! Appreciate people may not be able to give that advice on here, but if I can get advice on the readings and levels we can go get medical advice.




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Fog Top

  "Being a person who live in an area with a .3 mG or higher magnetic field....

Sorry, I meant to say "being a person who cannot live in an area with...."


To MJD:

Being a person who live in an area with a .3 mG or higher magnetic field, I was stunned to see that you are sleeping in a 108 mG (=10.76 uT microtesla) field.  ELF has been associated with suppression of melatonin production, cancers, Alzheimers...  Do a web search on 'melatonin and infertility' for studies showing their relationship. 

What reads do you get throughout the rest of your house?  I would suggest moving your bed out of its current location and preferably to one below .3 mG (.03 uT). 


BioInitiative 2012 Report: http://www.bioinitiative.org/report/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/sec13_2012_ELF_Melatonin_Alzheimers_Breast_cancer.pdf

"The most serious health endpoints that have been reported to be associated with extremely low frequency (ELF) and/or radiofrequency radiation (RFR) include childhood and adult leukemia, childhood and adult brain tumors, and increased risk of the neurodegenerative diseases, Alzheimer’s and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). In addition, there are reports of increased risk of breast cancer in both men and women, genotoxic effects (DNA damage, chromatin condensation, micronucleation, impaired repair of DNA damage in human stem cells), pathological leakage of the blood–brain barrier, altered immune function including increased allergic and inflammatory responses, miscarriage and some cardiovascular effects.





From: mjd [via ES] <ml+[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 4:17 AM
To: Fog Top
Subject: [ES] Readings and Impact on Health
 
Hi, not sure if anyone can help, but thought I'd try! Our home was built in 1979, a double brick house, we were always concerned about the fact that the Electricity Meter/Box was on the outside of our house, but right behind our bed head.

I got a cheap meter testing device and it gave me these readings (see attached image) when I put the meter on the wall, they decline slightly when moved to where our bodies are, I'll now get someone out to do proper readings.

We're having trouble having a baby, and the people that build the house, and lived in it for 32 years before we bought it from them never had kids, they slept in the same room in the same place.

Just trying to get some guidance on what these figures mean and what to do next, we're already moved into the spare bedroom, but don't want to leave it as people come and stay, we also want to find out if this could be causing the issues falling pregnant and what the damage might be, if it is, is it permanent! Appreciate people may not be able to give that advice on here, but if I can get advice on the readings and levels we can go get medical advice.




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It is normal for readings to be very high when you put meters right next to the wall because that is where the wires are (though the readings in your picture actually look low?). As was mentioned above you need to put the meter where you actually sleep and test it there.

Its also really important to test for wireless radiation as well. Have you tested with an RF meter? Wireless radiation definitely can cause fertility problems.
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mjd
Ok so EM is not the same as RF then :) I'll need to get an RF meter it seems, we've called a few people in Australia to test EM and they all laugh, no-one seems to take it seriously...

Is there an easy way to test? or I need a meter?

This is what the meter reads on our bed, where my head is...



How does that compare?!?!

Thanks all
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Fog Top

RF is not the only game in town when it comes to EMF and being ES or non-ES.  Your bed is in a very strong magnetic field.  You need to sleep in a low EMF (electromagnetic field) environment for your body to be able to repair itself from EMF faced in today's 'normal' daily life.  Many ES will tell you that they cannot tolerate living in an environment over .3 mG (or lower for many).  You are sleeping in a 29.4 mG field (2.94uT) which is VERY harmful just as your meter is telling you!




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Ok so EM is not the same as RF then :) I'll need to get an RF meter it seems, we've called a few people in Australia to test EM and they all laugh, no-one seems to take it seriously...

Is there an easy way to test? or I need a meter?

This is what the meter reads on our bed, where my head is...



How does that compare?!?!

Thanks all


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