A couple of months ago BT visited our village and installed fibre optic connections to replace the use of old landline sets. My ES symptoms have got worse and I couldn't understand the dizziness and feelings of disorientation and blood pressure dropping when out walking and at home. I have just noticed that on the lamp-posts are small grey boxes or black tubular containers.
At the same time our neighbours had 1 GB Ultra Fast Broadband fitted..strong enough for 600 people to be on zoom at the same time. I now have to use the canopy most of the day and sleep in a shielded room every night to get some relief. We are in the process of moving. Having just read the ES newsletter UK Autumn 2021 I came across this interesting information:
"ES symptoms from fibre optic transducer
From notes by Guy and Andrew:
The light pulses or optical signals in fibre optic
cables are received by "an electro-optical
transducer" at the end of the fibre in a green
roadside cabinet which converts them to
electronic signals for the traditionally copper
wiring at new, higher frequencies. It seems that
these can cause EHS symptoms due to new
higher frequencies in the copper wiring
connecting to your modem and telephone
EHS people are reacting to the newer higher
frequencies when the copper is in multicore
cables on telegraph poles. It will be driven by a
switch-mode power supply in each cabinet
which is likely to generate significant dirty
Also people without broadband but just using
voice landlines get the higher frequencies down
their landline wires. To avoid these frequencies
plug in two 4-choke ADSL filters at the BT
terminal. Then use an airtube headset to avoid
the magnetic loop in the ordinary earpiece
radiating your ear with audio-frequency
magnetic fields. Not all landline desksets work
with airtune headsets - I use a BT Converse
2300 V2 which does work with a headset."
Is anyone else struggling with and can feel the increase in emfs from the stronger faster broadbands and fibre optics?
I see a lot of complaints about fiber optics on the Facebook group. Presumably it's the electronics needed to convert the fiber optics into something useful. Modems, routers, etc.
And I've long noticed that more capable, faster internet hardware is in general worse. Although you can sometimes find exceptions to this. With my regular cable internet connection, I went through over 10 modems and 10 routers finding the ones that I reacted to the least. And the end result was that I now have an internet connection that is 10 times faster than it was before, yet still tolerable.
Hi Fizzy, I recently had full fibre fitted to my property and am having terrible symptoms, I held off getting it but eventually had no choice ( my area is full fibre only ).
I only moved here 5 months ago to get away from a smart meter, not sure I could move again so soon.
I wondered if I can get it removed but that would mean no internet and I'm not sure if they would.
Hi Clare do you still have an old copper wire connection to the house? We had fibre fitted and I started reacting almost immediately and the RF readings were very strong. So we asked them to disconnect it, explaining it was for health reasons and they reconnected using the old copper connection. We also use an ethernet cable and have the wifi in the router disabled. I really hope you can get something done about it. I dont know if using a shielding paint on the walls might work?
Hi Fizzy, I had the wifi turned off when we got the fibre but it didn't help so I cancelled the contract. I still have copper but they won't let me have it, although one person said if I had a letter about my health problems maybe openreach would consider it. Im trying to contact them to get it completely removed, might have to think of something else to get internet.
I am so sorry you are going through this especially as you've not been in your new place very long.
We are with EE and they allowed us the copper connection. Might be worth shopping around for a provider that will be willing to help you? Especially if you let them know just how sick it makes you. I'm finding some companies seem more willing to help and more people are becoming aware of our condition.
Openreach said they won't remove it :(
I've left BT and gone with someone who will put copper in. Im wondering if that will cause more symptoms having copper put in with full fibre still connected. Im absolutely gutted, I've contacted my MP but I don't know if that will help.
I'm really sorry to hear that :[ Could your new provider help in that they can get the fibre disconnected when they send out the Openreach representative to reconnect your copper connection? I thought the provider might be the one who gives Openreach the direction as to what to connect etc?? Maybe a letter to the manager of your new provider or Openreach if all else fails, explaining kindly but firmly the severe health implications of the fibre being left in. Most companies don't want to deal with the fall out of someone ending up severely ill or in hospital due to their negligence. We explain that my ES has ended up with paramedics coming out to visit me previously, and usually that elicits a response!
I hope he/she is kind-hearted enough to disconnect the fibre whilst they're there. Surely it's not too much to ask? At the very least maybe they can disconnect the wires to your fibre box located on the outside of your house? Really hope it goes ok for you.
Just an update.
Openreach removed the fibre from my property but I'm still having symptoms and my DE meter still reads high.
There are still fibre cables running from my property to the pole but they said they had removed it all, I'm confused. There is a lady that lives above me but I don't think she has fibre.
I don't have smart meters or any smart devices either that would cause issues.
So sorry to hear you are having issues still. Perhaps the facebook group could advise on this? Sorry I don't know quite else what to advise. It can be very difficult to source the root of the problem. I know when they fitted fibre in our street, although we don't have it, it made me feel unwell. I really hope you can find some resolution and relief.
I have a canopy that I use and find relief under. And also a shielded room. Sadly in todays increasingly technological world we often need a safe haven in our homes.
The Facebook group didn't know either unfortunately. We where fine before they connected us but we're apparently not connected no more. Il probably need to get a emf survey done or move.
Thank you Fizzy.
The fiber is safe. It is the router the problem. They produce lots of EF and maybe dirty electricity. I grounded mine. It can be done by using a Cat.6 ethernet cable connected to a grounded PC or via the USB port on the router we can connect the metalic part to the ground conector of a electric socket. Sometimes it does not work. The best solution is to wrap the negative pole of the router's electrical supply with some self adhesive aluminium foil and connect that to the ground with a crocodile clamp and some wire. It use to make me sick when talking on a corded phone connected to an ungrounded router. Much worse than a cellphone. Of course the wifi has to be disabled and use an ethernet cable instead
Had fibre optics put in and my DE meter went up to 400mv, much lower when we moved in.
Tried turning all electrics off, doesn't change the readings.
It was not the router causing the problem, as I had them remove it.
I think the high DE levels are due to fibre optics from the telegraph pole.