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Re: satellite dishes

Carol
Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had gotten
satellite for her TV, and though most people (even electrosensitives)
are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and therefore
are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do with my
becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She know longer
has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward to this.

Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?

Carol

--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
>
> Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new satellite
dish. Sue
> is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head feels more
disturbed
> on that side of the house. We can try things out with shielding,
but were
> wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of whether and
how much a
> dish can affect electrosensitives?
>  
> Ian
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: satellite dishes

BiBrun
I can't give you documentation. But the frequency coming from the satellite
is several GHz and it gets converted right at the focus of the dish by
electronics, converting to one or two GHz range, and putting it onto the
cable. The electronics are likely to radiate weakly, but if you're close
enough...
and if the cable is cheap or not grounded right or bent too sharply it will
radiate.
My neighbor also has a 2.4GHz system to transmit TV wirelessly to every
room in the house.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carol <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had gotten
> satellite for her TV, and though most people (even electrosensitives)
> are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and therefore
> are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do with my
> becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She know longer
> has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
> considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward to this.
>
> Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?
>
> Carol
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ian Kemp" <
> ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
> >
> > Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new satellite
> dish. Sue
> > is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head feels more
> disturbed
> > on that side of the house. We can try things out with shielding,
> but were
> > wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of whether and
> how much a
> > dish can affect electrosensitives?
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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Re: satellite dishes

health.rehab
In reply to this post by Carol
Hi Carol,

I've found out that the worst place of a satellite dish directly below the
dish.

"Satellite dishes, by the very nature of their parabolic
magnification design and their antenna function, capture and focus
almost any electromagnetic emission within line of sight and then
dump this broadband spectrum field directly underneath. If the
satellite embraces an electric distribution line, for example, this
powerfrequency will be focused directly below, sometimes with a 10-
fold magnification. It is not a good idea to occupy such a location
for extended periods of time." Andrew Michrowski, Ph.D. Architecture
The Planetary Association for Clean Energy, Inc [hidden email]

If you're close enough to neighbours, their dish could possibly be a
problem. Could also be their 2.4 GHz portable phone base, some Bluetooth
devise they have... or the wireless that's beamed all over your town...?
Also, the satellite waves beamed from the satellites in space are
everywhere!.

I was in terrible shape last year from EMFs and testing showed satellite
waves were bothering me as well. They depressed my Immune System so much
that the Lymes was reactivated and began attacking my nerves.... which
caused terrible tingling, numbness, weakness, MS-like attacks...
I finally got some relief by wearing a Bioshield (not Bioelectric Shield)
and testing showed it was working for satellite waves too. I was
wearing Q-llink before - it didn't help.

Hope you find some relief/ help from all that's bothering you, Carol. I know
how awful it can be, especially not knowing....

Marguerite


On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I can't give you documentation. But the frequency coming from the
> satellite
> is several GHz and it gets converted right at the focus of the dish by
> electronics, converting to one or two GHz range, and putting it onto the
> cable. The electronics are likely to radiate weakly, but if you're close
> enough...
> and if the cable is cheap or not grounded right or bent too sharply it
> will
> radiate.
> My neighbor also has a 2.4GHz system to transmit TV wirelessly to every
> room in the house.
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carol <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had gotten
> > satellite for her TV, and though most people (even electrosensitives)
> > are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and therefore
> > are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do with my
> > becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She know longer
> > has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
> > considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward to this.
> >
> > Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?
> >
> > Carol
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ian Kemp" <
> > ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new satellite
> > dish. Sue
> > > is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head feels more
> > disturbed
> > > on that side of the house. We can try things out with shielding,
> > but were
> > > wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of whether and
> > how much a
> > > dish can affect electrosensitives?
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Re: satellite dishes

abailey63
Could tell me where I could find this Bioshield? Did a google search
couldn't find anything. I'm staying in a room that has a disconnected
satellite dish with about 4 feet of cable in the room. Not sure if
this is causing my sleep problems or not.

Thanks, Alan

--- In [hidden email], Marguerite <health.rehab@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Carol,
>
> I've found out that the worst place of a satellite dish directly
below the

> dish.
>
> "Satellite dishes, by the very nature of their parabolic
> magnification design and their antenna function, capture and focus
> almost any electromagnetic emission within line of sight and then
> dump this broadband spectrum field directly underneath. If the
> satellite embraces an electric distribution line, for example, this
> powerfrequency will be focused directly below, sometimes with a 10-
> fold magnification. It is not a good idea to occupy such a location
> for extended periods of time." Andrew Michrowski, Ph.D. Architecture
> The Planetary Association for Clean Energy, Inc pacenet@...
>
> If you're close enough to neighbours, their dish could possibly be a
> problem. Could also be their 2.4 GHz portable phone base, some Bluetooth
> devise they have... or the wireless that's beamed all over your town...?
> Also, the satellite waves beamed from the satellites in space are
> everywhere!.
>
> I was in terrible shape last year from EMFs and testing showed satellite
> waves were bothering me as well. They depressed my Immune System so much
> that the Lymes was reactivated and began attacking my nerves.... which
> caused terrible tingling, numbness, weakness, MS-like attacks...
> I finally got some relief by wearing a Bioshield (not Bioelectric
Shield)
> and testing showed it was working for satellite waves too. I was
> wearing Q-llink before - it didn't help.
>
> Hope you find some relief/ help from all that's bothering you,
Carol. I know

> how awful it can be, especially not knowing....
>
> Marguerite
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:
>
> > I can't give you documentation. But the frequency coming from the
> > satellite
> > is several GHz and it gets converted right at the focus of the dish by
> > electronics, converting to one or two GHz range, and putting it
onto the
> > cable. The electronics are likely to radiate weakly, but if
you're close
> > enough...
> > and if the cable is cheap or not grounded right or bent too sharply it
> > will
> > radiate.
> > My neighbor also has a 2.4GHz system to transmit TV wirelessly to
every
> > room in the house.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carol <YoRed24@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had
gotten
> > > satellite for her TV, and though most people (even
electrosensitives)

> > > are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and therefore
> > > are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do with my
> > > becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She know longer
> > > has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
> > > considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward to this.
> > >
> > > Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ian Kemp" <
> > > ianandsue.kemp@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new satellite
> > > dish. Sue
> > > > is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head feels more
> > > disturbed
> > > > on that side of the house. We can try things out with shielding,
> > > but were
> > > > wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of whether and
> > > how much a
> > > > dish can affect electrosensitives?
> > > >
> > > > Ian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: satellite dishes

rawfooddan
Alan,

I found that my sleep problems are caused by computer and TV outgas. PBDEs,
flame retardants embedded in computers and TVs, are released by computers
and TVs. They are endocrine disruptors and hormone disruptors according to
articles I've read, and I'm assuming PBDEs or another outgassed chemical
messes with seratonin/melatonin. Thats what I've concluded, because they
always mess up my sleep ability. but with the use of my air-tight enclosure,
I don't have that problem.

Http://www.rawair.net/info.html

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:14 PM, abailey63 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Could tell me where I could find this Bioshield? Did a google search
> couldn't find anything. I'm staying in a room that has a disconnected
> satellite dish with about 4 feet of cable in the room. Not sure if
> this is causing my sleep problems or not.
>
> Thanks, Alan
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, Marguerite
> <health.rehab@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Carol,
> >
> > I've found out that the worst place of a satellite dish directly
> below the
> > dish.
> >
> > "Satellite dishes, by the very nature of their parabolic
> > magnification design and their antenna function, capture and focus
> > almost any electromagnetic emission within line of sight and then
> > dump this broadband spectrum field directly underneath. If the
> > satellite embraces an electric distribution line, for example, this
> > powerfrequency will be focused directly below, sometimes with a 10-
> > fold magnification. It is not a good idea to occupy such a location
> > for extended periods of time." Andrew Michrowski, Ph.D. Architecture
> > The Planetary Association for Clean Energy, Inc pacenet@...
> >
> > If you're close enough to neighbours, their dish could possibly be a
> > problem. Could also be their 2.4 GHz portable phone base, some Bluetooth
> > devise they have... or the wireless that's beamed all over your town...?
> > Also, the satellite waves beamed from the satellites in space are
> > everywhere!.
> >
> > I was in terrible shape last year from EMFs and testing showed satellite
> > waves were bothering me as well. They depressed my Immune System so much
> > that the Lymes was reactivated and began attacking my nerves.... which
> > caused terrible tingling, numbness, weakness, MS-like attacks...
> > I finally got some relief by wearing a Bioshield (not Bioelectric
> Shield)
> > and testing showed it was working for satellite waves too. I was
> > wearing Q-llink before - it didn't help.
> >
> > Hope you find some relief/ help from all that's bothering you,
> Carol. I know
> > how awful it can be, especially not knowing....
> >
> > Marguerite
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I can't give you documentation. But the frequency coming from the
> > > satellite
> > > is several GHz and it gets converted right at the focus of the dish by
> > > electronics, converting to one or two GHz range, and putting it
> onto the
> > > cable. The electronics are likely to radiate weakly, but if
> you're close
> > > enough...
> > > and if the cable is cheap or not grounded right or bent too sharply it
> > > will
> > > radiate.
> > > My neighbor also has a 2.4GHz system to transmit TV wirelessly to
> every
> > > room in the house.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carol <YoRed24@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had
> gotten
> > > > satellite for her TV, and though most people (even
> electrosensitives)
> > > > are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and therefore
> > > > are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do with my
> > > > becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She know longer
> > > > has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
> > > > considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward to this.
> > > >
> > > > Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?
> > > >
> > > > Carol
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> 40yahoogroups.com>, "Ian Kemp" <
> > > > ianandsue.kemp@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new satellite
> > > > dish. Sue
> > > > > is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head feels more
> > > > disturbed
> > > > > on that side of the house. We can try things out with shielding,
> > > > but were
> > > > > wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of whether and
> > > > how much a
> > > > > dish can affect electrosensitives?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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Re: satellite dishes

abailey63
Appreciate the idea. But my immediate sleep problems right now are
caused by very high, very measurable rf frequencies from a WiMax dish.
Yes that's WiMax. Way more powerful than Wifi.

Thanks, Alan

--- In [hidden email], "Tegoba Healthy Tech" <healthytech@...>
wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> I found that my sleep problems are caused by computer and TV outgas.
PBDEs,
> flame retardants embedded in computers and TVs, are released by
computers
> and TVs. They are endocrine disruptors and hormone disruptors
according to
> articles I've read, and I'm assuming PBDEs or another outgassed
chemical
> messes with seratonin/melatonin. Thats what I've concluded, because
they
> always mess up my sleep ability. but with the use of my air-tight
enclosure,

> I don't have that problem.
>
> Http://www.rawair.net/info.html
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:14 PM, abailey63 <abailey63@...> wrote:
>
> > Could tell me where I could find this Bioshield? Did a google search
> > couldn't find anything. I'm staying in a room that has a disconnected
> > satellite dish with about 4 feet of cable in the room. Not sure if
> > this is causing my sleep problems or not.
> >
> > Thanks, Alan
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, Marguerite
> > <health.rehab@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Carol,
> > >
> > > I've found out that the worst place of a satellite dish directly
> > below the
> > > dish.
> > >
> > > "Satellite dishes, by the very nature of their parabolic
> > > magnification design and their antenna function, capture and focus
> > > almost any electromagnetic emission within line of sight and then
> > > dump this broadband spectrum field directly underneath. If the
> > > satellite embraces an electric distribution line, for example, this
> > > powerfrequency will be focused directly below, sometimes with a 10-
> > > fold magnification. It is not a good idea to occupy such a location
> > > for extended periods of time." Andrew Michrowski, Ph.D. Architecture
> > > The Planetary Association for Clean Energy, Inc pacenet@
> > >
> > > If you're close enough to neighbours, their dish could possibly be a
> > > problem. Could also be their 2.4 GHz portable phone base, some
Bluetooth
> > > devise they have... or the wireless that's beamed all over your
town...?
> > > Also, the satellite waves beamed from the satellites in space are
> > > everywhere!.
> > >
> > > I was in terrible shape last year from EMFs and testing showed
satellite
> > > waves were bothering me as well. They depressed my Immune System
so much
> > > that the Lymes was reactivated and began attacking my nerves....
which

> > > caused terrible tingling, numbness, weakness, MS-like attacks...
> > > I finally got some relief by wearing a Bioshield (not Bioelectric
> > Shield)
> > > and testing showed it was working for satellite waves too. I was
> > > wearing Q-llink before - it didn't help.
> > >
> > > Hope you find some relief/ help from all that's bothering you,
> > Carol. I know
> > > how awful it can be, especially not knowing....
> > >
> > > Marguerite
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bill Bruno <wbruno@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can't give you documentation. But the frequency coming from the
> > > > satellite
> > > > is several GHz and it gets converted right at the focus of the
dish by
> > > > electronics, converting to one or two GHz range, and putting it
> > onto the
> > > > cable. The electronics are likely to radiate weakly, but if
> > you're close
> > > > enough...
> > > > and if the cable is cheap or not grounded right or bent too
sharply it

> > > > will
> > > > radiate.
> > > > My neighbor also has a 2.4GHz system to transmit TV wirelessly to
> > every
> > > > room in the house.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carol <YoRed24@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had
> > gotten
> > > > > satellite for her TV, and though most people (even
> > electrosensitives)
> > > > > are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and
therefore
> > > > > are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do
with my
> > > > > becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She
know longer
> > > > > has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
> > > > > considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward
to this.

> > > > >
> > > > > Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Ian Kemp" <
> > > > > ianandsue.kemp@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new
satellite
> > > > > dish. Sue
> > > > > > is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head
feels more
> > > > > disturbed
> > > > > > on that side of the house. We can try things out with
shielding,
> > > > > but were
> > > > > > wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of
whether and

> > > > > how much a
> > > > > > dish can affect electrosensitives?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: satellite dishes

Loni Rosser
Is WiMax used in residential housing? 

--- On Thu, 8/28/08, abailey63 <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: abailey63 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: satellite dishes
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 8:56 PM






Appreciate the idea. But my immediate sleep problems right now are
caused by very high, very measurable rf frequencies from a WiMax dish.
Yes that's WiMax. Way more powerful than Wifi.

Thanks, Alan

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Tegoba Healthy Tech" <healthytech@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> I found that my sleep problems are caused by computer and TV outgas.
PBDEs,
> flame retardants embedded in computers and TVs, are released by
computers
> and TVs. They are endocrine disruptors and hormone disruptors
according to
> articles I've read, and I'm assuming PBDEs or another outgassed
chemical
> messes with seratonin/melatonin . Thats what I've concluded, because
they
> always mess up my sleep ability. but with the use of my air-tight
enclosure,

> I don't have that problem.
>
> Http://www.rawair. net/info. html
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:14 PM, abailey63 <abailey63@. ..> wrote:
>
> > Could tell me where I could find this Bioshield? Did a google search
> > couldn't find anything. I'm staying in a room that has a disconnected
> > satellite dish with about 4 feet of cable in the room. Not sure if
> > this is causing my sleep problems or not.
> >
> > Thanks, Alan
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>, Marguerite
> > <health.rehab@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Carol,
> > >
> > > I've found out that the worst place of a satellite dish directly
> > below the
> > > dish.
> > >
> > > "Satellite dishes, by the very nature of their parabolic
> > > magnification design and their antenna function, capture and focus
> > > almost any electromagnetic emission within line of sight and then
> > > dump this broadband spectrum field directly underneath. If the
> > > satellite embraces an electric distribution line, for example, this
> > > powerfrequency will be focused directly below, sometimes with a 10-
> > > fold magnification. It is not a good idea to occupy such a location
> > > for extended periods of time." Andrew Michrowski, Ph.D. Architecture
> > > The Planetary Association for Clean Energy, Inc pacenet@
> > >
> > > If you're close enough to neighbours, their dish could possibly be a
> > > problem. Could also be their 2.4 GHz portable phone base, some
Bluetooth
> > > devise they have... or the wireless that's beamed all over your
town...?
> > > Also, the satellite waves beamed from the satellites in space are
> > > everywhere!.
> > >
> > > I was in terrible shape last year from EMFs and testing showed
satellite
> > > waves were bothering me as well. They depressed my Immune System
so much
> > > that the Lymes was reactivated and began attacking my nerves....
which

> > > caused terrible tingling, numbness, weakness, MS-like attacks...
> > > I finally got some relief by wearing a Bioshield (not Bioelectric
> > Shield)
> > > and testing showed it was working for satellite waves too. I was
> > > wearing Q-llink before - it didn't help.
> > >
> > > Hope you find some relief/ help from all that's bothering you,
> > Carol. I know
> > > how awful it can be, especially not knowing....
> > >
> > > Marguerite
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bill Bruno <wbruno@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can't give you documentation. But the frequency coming from the
> > > > satellite
> > > > is several GHz and it gets converted right at the focus of the
dish by
> > > > electronics, converting to one or two GHz range, and putting it
> > onto the
> > > > cable. The electronics are likely to radiate weakly, but if
> > you're close
> > > > enough...
> > > > and if the cable is cheap or not grounded right or bent too
sharply it

> > > > will
> > > > radiate.
> > > > My neighbor also has a 2.4GHz system to transmit TV wirelessly to
> > every
> > > > room in the house.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carol <YoRed24@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had
> > gotten
> > > > > satellite for her TV, and though most people (even
> > electrosensitives)
> > > > > are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and
therefore
> > > > > are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do
with my
> > > > > becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She
know longer
> > > > > has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
> > > > > considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward
to this.

> > > > >
> > > > > Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> <eSens%
> > 40yahoogroups. com>, "Ian Kemp" <
> > > > > ianandsue.kemp@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new
satellite
> > > > > dish. Sue
> > > > > > is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head
feels more
> > > > > disturbed
> > > > > > on that side of the house. We can try things out with
shielding,
> > > > > but were
> > > > > > wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of
whether and

> > > > > how much a
> > > > > > dish can affect electrosensitives?
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Re: satellite dishes

Emil at Less EMF Inc
>>... my immediate sleep problems right now are
caused by very high, very measurable rf frequencies from a WiMax dish.

You can use the microwave absorbing material to lower your exposure.
See http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#259

Emil

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Re: satellite dishes

abailey63
In reply to this post by Loni Rosser
Wimax is now being used for last mile internet connectivity in a
number of areas.

Thanks, Alan

--- In [hidden email], Loni Rosser <loni326@...> wrote:

>
> Is WiMax used in residential housing? 
>
> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, abailey63 <abailey63@...> wrote:
>
> From: abailey63 <abailey63@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: satellite dishes
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 8:56 PM
>
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>
>
>
>
> Appreciate the idea. But my immediate sleep problems right now are
> caused by very high, very measurable rf frequencies from a WiMax dish.
> Yes that's WiMax. Way more powerful than Wifi.
>
> Thanks, Alan
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Tegoba Healthy Tech" <healthytech@ ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Alan,
> >
> > I found that my sleep problems are caused by computer and TV outgas.
> PBDEs,
> > flame retardants embedded in computers and TVs, are released by
> computers
> > and TVs. They are endocrine disruptors and hormone disruptors
> according to
> > articles I've read, and I'm assuming PBDEs or another outgassed
> chemical
> > messes with seratonin/melatonin . Thats what I've concluded, because
> they
> > always mess up my sleep ability. but with the use of my air-tight
> enclosure,
> > I don't have that problem.
> >
> > Http://www.rawair. net/info. html
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:14 PM, abailey63 <abailey63@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > > Could tell me where I could find this Bioshield? Did a google search
> > > couldn't find anything. I'm staying in a room that has a
disconnected

> > > satellite dish with about 4 feet of cable in the room. Not sure if
> > > this is causing my sleep problems or not.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Alan
> > >
> > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>, Marguerite
> > > <health.rehab@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Carol,
> > > >
> > > > I've found out that the worst place of a satellite dish directly
> > > below the
> > > > dish.
> > > >
> > > > "Satellite dishes, by the very nature of their parabolic
> > > > magnification design and their antenna function, capture and focus
> > > > almost any electromagnetic emission within line of sight and then
> > > > dump this broadband spectrum field directly underneath. If the
> > > > satellite embraces an electric distribution line, for example,
this
> > > > powerfrequency will be focused directly below, sometimes with
a 10-
> > > > fold magnification. It is not a good idea to occupy such a
location
> > > > for extended periods of time." Andrew Michrowski, Ph.D.
Architecture
> > > > The Planetary Association for Clean Energy, Inc pacenet@
> > > >
> > > > If you're close enough to neighbours, their dish could
possibly be a

> > > > problem. Could also be their 2.4 GHz portable phone base, some
> Bluetooth
> > > > devise they have... or the wireless that's beamed all over your
> town...?
> > > > Also, the satellite waves beamed from the satellites in space are
> > > > everywhere!.
> > > >
> > > > I was in terrible shape last year from EMFs and testing showed
> satellite
> > > > waves were bothering me as well. They depressed my Immune System
> so much
> > > > that the Lymes was reactivated and began attacking my nerves....
> which
> > > > caused terrible tingling, numbness, weakness, MS-like attacks...
> > > > I finally got some relief by wearing a Bioshield (not Bioelectric
> > > Shield)
> > > > and testing showed it was working for satellite waves too. I was
> > > > wearing Q-llink before - it didn't help.
> > > >
> > > > Hope you find some relief/ help from all that's bothering you,
> > > Carol. I know
> > > > how awful it can be, especially not knowing....
> > > >
> > > > Marguerite
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bill Bruno <wbruno@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I can't give you documentation. But the frequency coming
from the

> > > > > satellite
> > > > > is several GHz and it gets converted right at the focus of the
> dish by
> > > > > electronics, converting to one or two GHz range, and putting it
> > > onto the
> > > > > cable. The electronics are likely to radiate weakly, but if
> > > you're close
> > > > > enough...
> > > > > and if the cable is cheap or not grounded right or bent too
> sharply it
> > > > > will
> > > > > radiate.
> > > > > My neighbor also has a 2.4GHz system to transmit TV
wirelessly to

> > > every
> > > > > room in the house.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carol <YoRed24@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had
> > > gotten
> > > > > > satellite for her TV, and though most people (even
> > > electrosensitives)
> > > > > > are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and
> therefore
> > > > > > are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do
> with my
> > > > > > becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She
> know longer
> > > > > > has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
> > > > > > considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward
> to this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carol
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
<eSens%

> > > 40yahoogroups. com>, "Ian Kemp" <
> > > > > > ianandsue.kemp@ > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new
> satellite
> > > > > > dish. Sue
> > > > > > > is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head
> feels more
> > > > > > disturbed
> > > > > > > on that side of the house. We can try things out with
> shielding,
> > > > > > but were
> > > > > > > wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of
> whether and
> > > > > > how much a
> > > > > > > dish can affect electrosensitives?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ian
> > > > > > >
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Re: satellite dishes

Loni Rosser
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How do you know you have the WiMax dishes around? Are they the round thingson the side of the towers now that you see around?  Loni

--- On Thu, 8/28/08, abailey63 <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: abailey63 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: satellite dishes
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 8:56 PM






Appreciate the idea. But my immediate sleep problems right now are
caused by very high, very measurable rf frequencies from a WiMax dish.
Yes that's WiMax. Way more powerful than Wifi.

Thanks, Alan

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Tegoba Healthy Tech" <healthytech@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> I found that my sleep problems are caused by computer and TV outgas.
PBDEs,
> flame retardants embedded in computers and TVs, are released by
computers
> and TVs. They are endocrine disruptors and hormone disruptors
according to
> articles I've read, and I'm assuming PBDEs or another outgassed
chemical
> messes with seratonin/melatonin . Thats what I've concluded, because
they
> always mess up my sleep ability. but with the use of my air-tight
enclosure,

> I don't have that problem.
>
> Http://www.rawair. net/info. html
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:14 PM, abailey63 <abailey63@. ..> wrote:
>
> > Could tell me where I could find this Bioshield? Did a google search
> > couldn't find anything. I'm staying in a room that has a disconnected
> > satellite dish with about 4 feet of cable in the room. Not sure if
> > this is causing my sleep problems or not.
> >
> > Thanks, Alan
> >
> > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>, Marguerite
> > <health.rehab@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Carol,
> > >
> > > I've found out that the worst place of a satellite dish directly
> > below the
> > > dish.
> > >
> > > "Satellite dishes, by the very nature of their parabolic
> > > magnification design and their antenna function, capture and focus
> > > almost any electromagnetic emission within line of sight and then
> > > dump this broadband spectrum field directly underneath. If the
> > > satellite embraces an electric distribution line, for example, this
> > > powerfrequency will be focused directly below, sometimes with a 10-
> > > fold magnification. It is not a good idea to occupy such a location
> > > for extended periods of time." Andrew Michrowski, Ph.D. Architecture
> > > The Planetary Association for Clean Energy, Inc pacenet@
> > >
> > > If you're close enough to neighbours, their dish could possibly be a
> > > problem. Could also be their 2.4 GHz portable phone base, some
Bluetooth
> > > devise they have... or the wireless that's beamed all over your
town...?
> > > Also, the satellite waves beamed from the satellites in space are
> > > everywhere!.
> > >
> > > I was in terrible shape last year from EMFs and testing showed
satellite
> > > waves were bothering me as well. They depressed my Immune System
so much
> > > that the Lymes was reactivated and began attacking my nerves....
which

> > > caused terrible tingling, numbness, weakness, MS-like attacks...
> > > I finally got some relief by wearing a Bioshield (not Bioelectric
> > Shield)
> > > and testing showed it was working for satellite waves too. I was
> > > wearing Q-llink before - it didn't help.
> > >
> > > Hope you find some relief/ help from all that's bothering you,
> > Carol. I know
> > > how awful it can be, especially not knowing....
> > >
> > > Marguerite
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bill Bruno <wbruno@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can't give you documentation. But the frequency coming from the
> > > > satellite
> > > > is several GHz and it gets converted right at the focus of the
dish by
> > > > electronics, converting to one or two GHz range, and putting it
> > onto the
> > > > cable. The electronics are likely to radiate weakly, but if
> > you're close
> > > > enough...
> > > > and if the cable is cheap or not grounded right or bent too
sharply it

> > > > will
> > > > radiate.
> > > > My neighbor also has a 2.4GHz system to transmit TV wirelessly to
> > every
> > > > room in the house.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carol <YoRed24@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Interesting that you mention satellite dishes. My neighbor had
> > gotten
> > > > > satellite for her TV, and though most people (even
> > electrosensitives)
> > > > > are telling me satellite dishes receive information (and
therefore
> > > > > are safe), I still wonder if perhaps this had someting to do
with my
> > > > > becoming increasingly sensitive to EMF/RF over time. She
know longer
> > > > > has her dish hooked up, but the neighbor on my other side is
> > > > > considering getting one. I'm obviously not looking forward
to this.

> > > > >
> > > > > Are satellite dishes dangerous or not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Carol
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> <eSens%
> > 40yahoogroups. com>, "Ian Kemp" <
> > > > > ianandsue.kemp@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our next door neighbours have recently installed a new
satellite
> > > > > dish. Sue
> > > > > > is worried that this may be affecting her ES - her head
feels more
> > > > > disturbed
> > > > > > on that side of the house. We can try things out with
shielding,
> > > > > but were
> > > > > > wondering - is there documented evidence somewhere of
whether and

> > > > > how much a
> > > > > > dish can affect electrosensitives?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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