Re: [eSens] Re: fridge

Why do you think the 6 inch movement made a difference?

Emil
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Hi Emil,
 
Sorry, I am only online now on Saturday evenings and Sunday mornings, so I am just reading your question to me.
 
Well, not that I know much about electro-magnetic frequencies (I don't; I am more of a figure things out according to your body language--what it is telling you--kind of person.  ;)  )  Since my fridge is in quadrant 1 of my house and my bedroom is in quadrant 4--in other words, my fridge is NOWHERE even close to my bedroom.  It is on an outside wall on the complete opposite side of the house, in both directions (other half of house and on the opposite side of the house)--I would have to say that what I am experiencing with said fridge is possibly magnetic frequencies traveling on my metal-shielded house wiring???  I guess that moving the fridge that 6" from the corner of 2 walls which have metal wiring going behind, must be enough to cut down on the magnetic frequencies traveling on the lines.  If you have other ideas, I would welcome them.   
 
Even tho I am doing fine now as is, we are presently entertaining the idea for and looking at all-gas fridges, since we have the potential to do without any electrical power for long stretches during the day time and during the times we are sleeping.  But, moving the fridge was enough to make it tolerable for me to sleep at night with it on.  (Btw, our electric bill is presently between $4.80 and approximately $20.00 (the months they guestimate it).  So we are spending a grand total of approximately $12.50 per month on electricity now.  lol  We have gas hot water, stove, and an all gas furnace for heat; and, of course, our gas bill is now higher.  I think we are saving some, tho, with switching to gas.
 
My 2 cents on the subject,  ;)
Diane

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Why do you think the 6 inch movement made a difference?

Emil
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From: Evie [mailto:[hidden email]]
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Hi Evie,

> my fridge is NOWHERE even close to my bedroom.  It is on an outside wall on the complete opposite side of the house

Oh, I didn't get that before.
So moving it 6 inches from the outside wall is making a difference. Hmmm...


> metal wiring going behind, must be enough to cut down on the magnetic frequencies traveling on the lines.
>  

Technically the word Magnetic can not apply here. It can't be the motor
because purely magnetic fields are not affected by normal metals, and
don't travel along wires.

The wiring could be picking up EMF emissions like an antenna, but since
it is already plugged into the wall, that is not really relevant.

Only thing left I can think of, is if the corner wall has metal siding
or metal lined insulation, it could be acting like a reflector (think
satellite dish with the tiny FOCAL point), and if the fridge is newer,
and emitting EMF, then the location could cause it to bounce toward your
bedroom across the house.

It's probably a stretch since the walls are not curved, but I have no
other ideas.

> looking at all-gas fridges,

When I bought my first travel trailer, I found the compressor-driven
fridge to be very noisy. When I traded it in, 4 months later, for
attempt #2, I made sure I had a Norcold, amonia based fridge, with no motor.
That worked.

Stewart

Hi, Stewart,
 
THanks for the great info on gas fridges! 
 
Well, there are metal strips around some of the windows and ceiling in at least some places.  This was something I didn't know till we tore out a wall, because all of it is covered with plaster.  Still, it seems hard to imagine that could cause RF to reflect thru 3 walls at a strange angle and end up near the bed.  But I wouldn't know what else it would be if it couldn't be caused by the motor being too close to the wiring.  I originally had the fridge out to paint the walls and noticed it didn't bother me there.  But when I put it back in place it did.  So I tried moving it out again, and with some playing with it, I found that worked at about 6" from the 2 walls.
 
Thanks again, Stewart.  I will follow your advise on gas fridges!
Diane aka Evie


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Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: fridge
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Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 10:52 AM


 



Hi Evie,

> my fridge is NOWHERE even close to my bedroom. It is on an outside wall on the complete opposite side of the house

Oh, I didn't get that before.
So moving it 6 inches from the outside wall is making a difference. Hmmm...

> metal wiring going behind, must be enough to cut down on the magnetic frequencies traveling on the lines.
>

Technically the word Magnetic can not apply here. It can't be the motor
because purely magnetic fields are not affected by normal metals, and
don't travel along wires.

The wiring could be picking up EMF emissions like an antenna, but since
it is already plugged into the wall, that is not really relevant.

Only thing left I can think of, is if the corner wall has metal siding
or metal lined insulation, it could be acting like a reflector (think
satellite dish with the tiny FOCAL point), and if the fridge is newer,
and emitting EMF, then the location could cause it to bounce toward your
bedroom across the house.

It's probably a stretch since the walls are not curved, but I have no
other ideas.

> looking at all-gas fridges,

When I bought my first travel trailer, I found the compressor-driven
fridge to be very noisy. When I traded it in, 4 months later, for
attempt #2, I made sure I had a Norcold, amonia based fridge, with no motor.
That worked.

Stewart








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