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Re: Zonulin

evie15422
Hi, Andrew,

So sorry I am just getting to this email (and I missed sending the info foryour presentation entirely)! How did that go for you, btw? Hope it went very well.

You write:
> I am surprised that anyone on this
> list is still allowing needles to 
> penetrate your skin with animal DNA, antifreeze, MSG,
> mercury, 
> aluminum, many viral components, etc., etc. in them.

So true.  It has been well over 20 years since I have had vaccines, flu shots, etc.  I got very ill everytime I got one--it didn't make any sense to continue such a practice.  lol  Even my husband got ill with them.  When my doctor insisted one year that they had now changed vaccines andthey were no longer live virus, I tried one last time, mainly to appease him.  The result was still the same--I came down with a serious flu-like illness.

You write:
> Do you know of any enzymes that can be taken regarding
> zonulin or 
> anything in that area to help with celiac?

Dr. Alesio Fasano was in drug trials last year for a pill called larazotideacetate.  It went thru all 3 trial phases and was said to be on track togo to market in April of this year.  That pill worked for minor gluten contaminations in celiacs who did not have bad on-going gut damage, as I understand.  But what Dr. Fasano had hoped it would do is keep the tight junctions closed after one eats glutens and repair the damaged tjs which remained inoperational after particularly ill celiacs have gone gf.  It did not do this, however, and so he did not, in the end, deem the trials a success.  I have not heard whether he is going to continue onto marketing that pill for mild gluten ingestion.   

Another researcher, however, is now working on an enzyme pill (larazotide was a peptide).  This enzyme pill is in trials now.  (Actually my understanding is that there are several researchers in different countries competing at this at the moment.)  They are saying the results so far are good for the one that is in trials, but this was leaked about the larazotide pill too--means nothing yet. 

Dr. Fasano is still looking for a tj fix, however, which is why my money ison him.  The enzyme pill will not likely address the tjs.  I personally do not see an enzyme as working, long run; it is similar to using devicesto control ES.  You are not actually curing ES with a device, but stunting the effects of emfs.  Same would be true of an enzyme, I would think.  Yes, if you can get an enzyme that is effective enough at digesting gluten it will help symptoms, but the tjs are still open; zonulin is still produced.  (But certainly one would think researchers would know this too--so I may be wrong.)  But I have noted that Dr Fasano has not moved on--hisfocus has not been changed by the enzyme race.   

There is also an enzyme pill already on the market in Canada being touted for use for celiacs.  I forget the name of that product, but it *does not*work for celiacs.  It may work for those with mild gluten intolerance.  It has been around for at least 5 years and every year or so someone comes on the celiac forum pushing it.  But those who have tried it got gut damage eventually; some right away. 

Best wishes to you and your wife, Andrew,
Diane

   



     

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GlutenEase

Andrew McAfee
Thank you for the feedback and info.
GlutenEase
http://www.enzymedica.com/products/GlutenEase

I know that this won't cure anyone but may help a little in the
process of us finding true cures.
Thank you!
Andrew



On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Evie wrote:

> Hi, Andrew,
>
> So sorry I am just getting to this email (and I missed sending the
> info for your presentation entirely)! How did that go for you,
> btw? Hope it went very well.
>
> You write:
>> I am surprised that anyone on this
>> list is still allowing needles to
>> penetrate your skin with animal DNA, antifreeze, MSG,
>> mercury,
>> aluminum, many viral components, etc., etc. in them.
>
> So true. It has been well over 20 years since I have had vaccines,
> flu shots, etc. I got very ill everytime I got one--it didn't make
> any sense to continue such a practice. lol Even my husband got ill
> with them. When my doctor insisted one year that they had now
> changed vaccines and they were no longer live virus, I tried one
> last time, mainly to appease him. The result was still the same--I
> came down with a serious flu-like illness.
>
> You write:
>> Do you know of any enzymes that can be taken regarding
>> zonulin or
>> anything in that area to help with celiac?
>
> Dr. Alesio Fasano was in drug trials last year for a pill called
> larazotide acetate. It went thru all 3 trial phases and was said to
> be on track to go to market in April of this year. That pill worked
> for minor gluten contaminations in celiacs who did not have bad on-
> going gut damage, as I understand. But what Dr. Fasano had hoped it
> would do is keep the tight junctions closed after one eats glutens
> and repair the damaged tjs which remained inoperational after
> particularly ill celiacs have gone gf. It did not do this, however,
> and so he did not, in the end, deem the trials a success. I have
> not heard whether he is going to continue onto marketing that pill
> for mild gluten ingestion.
>
> Another researcher, however, is now working on an enzyme pill
> (larazotide was a peptide). This enzyme pill is in trials now.
> (Actually my understanding is that there are several researchers in
> different countries competing at this at the moment.) They are
> saying the results so far are good for the one that is in trials,
> but this was leaked about the larazotide pill too--means nothing yet.
>
> Dr. Fasano is still looking for a tj fix, however, which is why my
> money is on him. The enzyme pill will not likely address the tjs.
> I personally do not see an enzyme as working, long run; it is
> similar to using devices to control ES. You are not actually curing
> ES with a device, but stunting the effects of emfs. Same would be
> true of an enzyme, I would think. Yes, if you can get an enzyme
> that is effective enough at digesting gluten it will help symptoms,
> but the tjs are still open; zonulin is still produced. (But
> certainly one would think researchers would know this too--so I may
> be wrong.) But I have noted that Dr Fasano has not moved on--his
> focus has not been changed by the enzyme race.
>
> There is also an enzyme pill already on the market in Canada being
> touted for use for celiacs. I forget the name of that product, but
> it *does not* work for celiacs. It may work for those with mild
> gluten intolerance. It has been around for at least 5 years and
> every year or so someone comes on the celiac forum pushing it. But
> those who have tried it got gut damage eventually; some right away.
>
> Best wishes to you and your wife, Andrew,
> Diane
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Re: GlutenEase

evie15422
Hi again, Andrew,
 
It was GlutenEase that I was talking about which does not work for true celiacs.  It will work for some gluten intolerants, tho.  Hope it works for you.  My understanding is it does still allow gut damage.
 
Wishing you the best,
Diane

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] GlutenEase
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 4:46 PM


 



Thank you for the feedback and info.
GlutenEase
http://www.enzymedi ca.com/products/ GlutenEase

I know that this won't cure anyone but may help a little in the
process of us finding true cures.
Thank you!
Andrew

On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Evie wrote:

> Hi, Andrew,
>
> So sorry I am just getting to this email (and I missed sending the
> info for your presentation entirely)! How did that go for you,
> btw? Hope it went very well.
>
> You write:
>> I am surprised that anyone on this
>> list is still allowing needles to
>> penetrate your skin with animal DNA, antifreeze, MSG,
>> mercury,
>> aluminum, many viral components, etc., etc. in them.
>
> So true. It has been well over 20 years since I have had vaccines,
> flu shots, etc. I got very ill everytime I got one--it didn't make
> any sense to continue such a practice. lol Even my husband got ill
> with them. When my doctor insisted one year that they had now
> changed vaccines and they were no longer live virus, I tried one
> last time, mainly to appease him. The result was still the same--I
> came down with a serious flu-like illness.
>
> You write:
>> Do you know of any enzymes that can be taken regarding
>> zonulin or
>> anything in that area to help with celiac?
>
> Dr. Alesio Fasano was in drug trials last year for a pill called
> larazotide acetate. It went thru all 3 trial phases and was said to
> be on track to go to market in April of this year. That pill worked
> for minor gluten contaminations in celiacs who did not have bad on-
> going gut damage, as I understand. But what Dr. Fasano had hoped it
> would do is keep the tight junctions closed after one eats glutens
> and repair the damaged tjs which remained inoperational after
> particularly ill celiacs have gone gf. It did not do this, however,
> and so he did not, in the end, deem the trials a success. I have
> not heard whether he is going to continue onto marketing that pill
> for mild gluten ingestion.
>
> Another researcher, however, is now working on an enzyme pill
> (larazotide was a peptide). This enzyme pill is in trials now.
> (Actually my understanding is that there are several researchers in
> different countries competing at this at the moment.) They are
> saying the results so far are good for the one that is in trials,
> but this was leaked about the larazotide pill too--means nothing yet.
>
> Dr. Fasano is still looking for a tj fix, however, which is why my
> money is on him. The enzyme pill will not likely address the tjs.
> I personally do not see an enzyme as working, long run; it is
> similar to using devices to control ES. You are not actually curing
> ES with a device, but stunting the effects of emfs. Same would be
> true of an enzyme, I would think. Yes, if you can get an enzyme
> that is effective enough at digesting gluten it will help symptoms,
> but the tjs are still open; zonulin is still produced. (But
> certainly one would think researchers would know this too--so I may
> be wrong.) But I have noted that Dr Fasano has not moved on--his
> focus has not been changed by the enzyme race.
>
> There is also an enzyme pill already on the market in Canada being
> touted for use for celiacs. I forget the name of that product, but
> it *does not* work for celiacs. It may work for those with mild
> gluten intolerance. It has been around for at least 5 years and
> every year or so someone comes on the celiac forum pushing it. But
> those who have tried it got gut damage eventually; some right away.
>
> Best wishes to you and your wife, Andrew,
> Diane
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>









     

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