Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much?
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We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and
antennas. In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this normal/average? Amy A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 22/10/2009 06:29:15 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and antennas. In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this normal/average? Amy PUK replies - I suppose it depends on how much is heading your way ? Looks like you need to meter the place. I would like to say it depends on how you feel, but raection to these things are complex and non linear so best avoided as far as possible. puk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In reply to this post by javamdnss
Sounds like a pretty urbanized area. I'd be more interested in how
many within 1 mile and whether there was line of sight to them. Bill On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:24 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and > antennas. > In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this > normal/average? > > Amy > > > A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough > to take everything you have. > Thomas Jefferson > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much?
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In reply to this post by javamdnss
Six months ago I checked & had 342 antennas & it is too much for me here. Not able to sleep here. Maybe you can handle it? Loni
--- On Wed, 10/21/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 10:24 PM We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and antennas. In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this normal/average? Amy A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I put the window shield up on all of the windows & the meters registered fairly low in their readings but I still fry. We are more sensitive to it than the meters IMO. LOni
--- On Thu, 10/22/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 2:25 AM In a message dated 22/10/2009 06:29:15 GMT Daylight Time, javamdnss@aol. com writes: We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and antennas. In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this normal/average? Amy PUK replies - I suppose it depends on how much is heading your way ? Looks like you need to meter the place. I would like to say it depends on how you feel, but raection to these things are complex and non linear so best avoided as far as possible. puk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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That's a good point Bill. I have about 8 antennas straight shot out my backwindow fairly close at the school & library. It's all about how you feel. They air there however has to be pretty thick with it. Loni
--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 7:48 AM Sounds like a pretty urbanized area. I'd be more interested in how many within 1 mile and whether there was line of sight to them. Bill On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:24 PM, <javamdnss@aol. com> wrote: > > > We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and > antennas. > In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this > normal/average? > > Amy > > > A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough > to take everything you have. > Thomas Jefferson > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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The one meter that is supposed to be sensitive enough is the old
Aaronia HF-detektor. Unfortunately they tend to break (be very gentle with the antenna) and are hard to read outdoors... but I think they have a 10 year warranty and the company seems to be good about fixing them. Bill On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I put the window shield up on all of the windows & the meters registered > fairly low in their readings but I still fry. We are more sensitive to it > than the meters IMO. LOni > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, [hidden email] <paulpjc%40aol.com> <[hidden email]<paulpjc%40aol.com>> > wrote: > > From: [hidden email] <paulpjc%40aol.com> <[hidden email]<paulpjc%40aol.com> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > In a message dated 22/10/2009 06:29:15 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] > writes: > > We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and > antennas. > In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this > normal/average? > > Amy > > PUK replies - I suppose it depends on how much is heading your way ? Looks > like you need to meter the place. I would like to say it depends on how > you feel, but raection to these things are complex and non linear so best > avoided as far as possible. > > puk > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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My Building Biologist had a $2,000 meter that she said was very sentitive. Registered low in my daughter's bedroom. I tried to sleep on the floor on an air mattress behind the bed to have more sheilding & still fried. She's in college so bedroom is free. I had to go to the park last night at 3 am. Couldn't tolerate the burning. I couldn't relax, it was terrible. My nerves were getting cooked. Loni
--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:48 AM The one meter that is supposed to be sensitive enough is the old Aaronia HF-detektor. Unfortunately they tend to break (be very gentle with the antenna) and are hard to read outdoors... but I think they have a 10 year warranty and the company seems to be good about fixing them. Bill On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > I put the window shield up on all of the windows & the meters registered > fairly low in their readings but I still fry. We are more sensitive to it > than the meters IMO. LOni > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc%40aol. com> <[hidden email]<paulpjc%40aol. com>> > wrote: > > From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc%40aol. com> <paulpjc@aol. com<paulpjc%40aol. com> > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > In a message dated 22/10/2009 06:29:15 GMT Daylight Time, javamdnss@aol. com > writes: > > We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and > antennas. > In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this > normal/average? > > Amy > > PUK replies - I suppose it depends on how much is heading your way ? Looks > like you need to meter the place. I would like to say it depends on how > you feel, but raection to these things are complex and non linear so best > avoided as far as possible. > > puk > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Did you check for low frequencies too? I now think that 60Hz electric
fields below 1 volt per meter can matter. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > My Building Biologist had a $2,000 meter that she said was very sentitive. > Registered low in my daughter's bedroom. I tried to sleep on the floor on an > air mattress behind the bed to have more sheilding & still fried. She's in > college so bedroom is free. I had to go to the park last night at 3 am. > Couldn't tolerate the burning. I couldn't relax, it was terrible. My nerves > were getting cooked. Loni > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:48 AM > > > > The one meter that is supposed to be sensitive enough is the old > Aaronia HF-detektor. Unfortunately they tend to break (be very gentle > with the antenna) and are hard to read outdoors... but I think they have a > 10 year warranty > and the company seems to be good about fixing them. > > Bill > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > > > > > I put the window shield up on all of the windows & the meters registered > > fairly low in their readings but I still fry. We are more sensitive to it > > than the meters IMO. LOni > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc%40aol. com> > <paulpjc@aol. com<paulpjc%40aol. com>> > > wrote: > > > > From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc%40aol. com> <[hidden email]<paulpjc%40aol. com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 22/10/2009 06:29:15 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] > > writes: > > > > We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and > > antennas. > > In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this > > normal/average? > > > > Amy > > > > PUK replies - I suppose it depends on how much is heading your way ? > Looks > > like you need to meter the place. I would like to say it depends on how > > you feel, but raection to these things are complex and non linear so best > > avoided as far as possible. > > > > puk > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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It was my biologist? don't know.
--- On Thu, 10/22/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:14 PM Did you check for low frequencies too? I now think that 60Hz electric fields below 1 volt per meter can matter. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > My Building Biologist had a $2,000 meter that she said was very sentitive. > Registered low in my daughter's bedroom. I tried to sleep on the floor onan > air mattress behind the bed to have more sheilding & still fried. She's in > college so bedroom is free. I had to go to the park last night at 3 am. > Couldn't tolerate the burning. I couldn't relax, it was terrible. My nerves > were getting cooked. Loni > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, Bill Bruno <wbruno@gmail. com <wbruno%40gmail. com>> > wrote: > > From: Bill Bruno <wbruno@gmail. com <wbruno%40gmail. com>> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:48 AM > > > > The one meter that is supposed to be sensitive enough is the old > Aaronia HF-detektor. Unfortunately they tend to break (be very gentle > with the antenna) and are hard to read outdoors... but I think they have a > 10 year warranty > and the company seems to be good about fixing them. > > Bill > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > > > > > I put the window shield up on all of the windows & the meters registered > > fairly low in their readings but I still fry. We are more sensitive to it > > than the meters IMO. LOni > > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc%40aol. com> > <paulpjc@aol. com<paulpjc% 40aol. com>> > > wrote: > > > > From: paulpjc@aol. com <paulpjc%40aol. com> <paulpjc@aol. com<paulpjc%40aol. com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 22/10/2009 06:29:15 GMT Daylight Time, javamdnss@aol. com > > writes: > > > > We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and > > antennas. > > In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this > > normal/average? > > > > Amy > > > > PUK replies - I suppose it depends on how much is heading your way ? > Looks > > like you need to meter the place. I would like to say it depends on how > > you feel, but raection to these things are complex and non linear so best > > avoided as far as possible. > > > > puk > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In reply to this post by javamdnss
Hi Amy,
I am not sure there is a normal or average! In my area, the amount of towers and antenna are vastly different from one place to another. One county seat here had over 80 towers and a couple hundred antennae within 4 miles the last time I looked, while another county seat had only 13 towers and 29 antennae. In the country it varies vastly too. In the middle of absolutely nowhere--where I cannot even see one house, I might be able to take in a panoramic view of a dozen towers (and not see antennae, not that they too are not present). Just 7 miles from me there is a *small* town, where there are 12 towers all well within the town limits (way closer than 4 miles away--practically on top of one another). More antennae there as well. On the Pa turnpike, there is placed at least one tower/mile along it. But every here and there, there will be groups of 3 or 4 (or more) all together. So, there seems (to me at least) little rhyme or reason to the number of towers and antennae in any given place. As to the numbers where you live--43 towers seems not exceedingly high if it is a large metropolitan area. But the amount of antenna does seem disproportionately high compared with what I have found in my area--generally, the antenna are about double the amount of towers. I wish you well, Diane --- On Thu, 10/22/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Towers, Antennas:How much is too much? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 1:24 AM We moved into a new house recently and I just did a search for towers and antennas. In a 4.0 mile radius, we have 43 towers, and 424 antennas. Is this normal/average? Amy A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jefferson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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PUK replies - I suppose it depends on how much is heading your way ? Looks like you need to meter the place. I would like to say it depends on how you feel, but raection to these things are complex and non linear so best avoided as far as possible. I don't even have a meter yet. I felt so good moving in here, before we got cable and wifi, etc... With six other people I am outnumbered. I just keep threatening to move to the middle of nowhere! Amy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In reply to this post by javamdnss
In a message dated 25/10/2009 00:01:42 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I don't even have a meter yet. I felt so good moving in here, before we got cable and wifi, etc... With six other people I am outnumbered. I just keep PUK replies - the effects of cable ie (unsheilded) TV is largely underestimated, coupled with the cheap mass produced TV boxes and sets that take and display the data, this is a major polluting ES factor for us. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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