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Puk replies - does the solar battery work with an inverter, if so that may  
be you problem ?
 
 
In a message dated 25/03/2011 18:32:19 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
That's just it, I'm not near ANY electricity, except for the solar battery  
which I only use to deliver power to the wiring every few days, & only  
when needed. The only thing I leave on all the time is the switch used to  
allow the battery to be charged by the solar panel on the roof. That doesn't  
seem to be bothering me. I'm in an area where there's no power lines for 2  
miles, & I think the  nearest cell tower is a mile away, so I'nm not  sure why
it's so bad. Just extra worried b/c of severity of symptoms, &  because
when they install Smart Meters in this area, the nearest 1 will only  be a mile
away. I just hope that's enuf distance for it to not affect me, tho  the
range of the SM's is over 2 miles.
-E. Drew

--- On Wed,  3/23/11, emraware <_emraware@yahoo.com_
(mailto:[hidden email]) >  wrote:

From: emraware <_emraware@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Subject:  [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw  
cavitations...(???)
To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Date:  Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 8:06 PM



Hi E. Drew,

ES  is complicated because it's not just microwaves that can cause
problems.  There's also electricity, magnetic fields, and VLF (very low
frequencies). It  seems that some forms of EMF can cause enough damage that they
sensitize you  to other forms of EMF that you previously weren't sensitive to. I
watched a  video once of a woman who was fine before she lived near a cell
tower. After  that experience, she became sensitive to other electronics and
wireless  devices she never was sensitive to before. In other words, though
you are now  away from the smart meters, you may have been damaged enough by
the smart  meters that you developed a new sensitivity, e.g., to electricity
now. I would  recommend to try turning the electricity off altogether from
the circuit  breaker panel as a test to see if you're sensitive to
electricity.

As  for the conductive shielding, it does work to shield against
microwaves, but  it may also pick up nearby electrical fields. The larger area the
fabric  covers, the more electrical fields it will pick up from surrounding
walls and  floor (coming from the wiring you do not see). I think if you are
wearing the  fabric close to your body, you probably won't pick up any
electrical fields  that you wouldn't have already picked up because of the water in
our bodies  which is naturally conductive anyway. However, if you are
making a large tent,  your tent corners may be in positions of high electricity
that you would never  physically be near otherwise.

Note: Conductive shielding doesn't seem  to help with VLF, which needs to
be addressed separately, usually by  unplugging the source of it.

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,  
"necessejamais" <necessejamais@...> wrote:

I've been in the  off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist
& I even  occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain &
body being  microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters.
 

...

> Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on  disability or even SSI, b/c
none of my conditions are recognized & I don't  have enuf work credits.
Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work.  I'm going to try a
conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule,  and a Silverell
hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c  they understand the
severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how  no shielding
seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics,  it's still
not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this  damage is
reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I  pray it's
not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I  eventually get
the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS  symptoms (temp.
paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my  symptoms,
does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so  long
after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this  could be
more Lyme related or more ALS related?

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Elysia Drew
Hi. Well, I had a tiny bit of a better sleep last nite after turning off not only the disconnects that deliver power from the solar battery to the house wiring (which I usu. do); I ALSO turned off the DC array disconnect, which collects power from the solar panel & charges the battery. When the sun goes down, theoretically, this should stop collecting electricity & just be inert, but maybe it means that the battery's still more active than it would be if I turned the array off. Either way, I felt just the tiniest bit of difference so plan to do that every nite from now on.

-E. Drew

--- On Sat, 3/26/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(...
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 6:31 AM







 



 


   
     
     
      Puk replies - does the solar battery work with an inverter, if so that may  

be you problem ?

 

 

In a message dated 25/03/2011 18:32:19 GMT Standard Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



That's just it, I'm not near ANY electricity, except for the solar battery  

which I only use to deliver power to the wiring every few days, & only  

when needed. The only thing I leave on all the time is the switch used to  

allow the battery to be charged by the solar panel on the roof. That doesn't  

seem to be bothering me. I'm in an area where there's no power lines for 2  

miles, & I think the  nearest cell tower is a mile away, so I'nm not  sure why

it's so bad. Just extra worried b/c of severity of symptoms, &  because

when they install Smart Meters in this area, the nearest 1 will only  be a mile

away. I just hope that's enuf distance for it to not affect me, tho  the

range of the SM's is over 2 miles.

-E. Drew



--- On Wed,  3/23/11, emraware <_emraware@yahoo.com_

(mailto:[hidden email]) >  wrote:



From: emraware <_emraware@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

Subject:  [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw  

cavitations...(???)

To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])

Date:  Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 8:06 PM



Hi E. Drew,



ES  is complicated because it's not just microwaves that can cause

problems.  There's also electricity, magnetic fields, and VLF (very low

frequencies). It  seems that some forms of EMF can cause enough damage that they

sensitize you  to other forms of EMF that you previously weren't sensitive to. I

watched a  video once of a woman who was fine before she lived near a cell

tower. After  that experience, she became sensitive to other electronics and

wireless  devices she never was sensitive to before. In other words, though

you are now  away from the smart meters, you may have been damaged enough by

the smart  meters that you developed a new sensitivity, e.g., to electricity

now. I would  recommend to try turning the electricity off altogether from

the circuit  breaker panel as a test to see if you're sensitive to

electricity.



As  for the conductive shielding, it does work to shield against

microwaves, but  it may also pick up nearby electrical fields. The larger area the

fabric  covers, the more electrical fields it will pick up from surrounding

walls and  floor (coming from the wiring you do not see). I think if you are

wearing the  fabric close to your body, you probably won't pick up any

electrical fields  that you wouldn't have already picked up because of the water in

our bodies  which is naturally conductive anyway. However, if you are

making a large tent,  your tent corners may be in positions of high electricity

that you would never  physically be near otherwise.



Note: Conductive shielding doesn't seem  to help with VLF, which needs to

be addressed separately, usually by  unplugging the source of it.



--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,  

"necessejamais" <necessejamais@...> wrote:



I've been in the  off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist

& I even  occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain &

body being  microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters.

 



...



> Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on  disability or even SSI, b/c

none of my conditions are recognized & I don't  have enuf work credits.

Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work.  I'm going to try a

conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule,  and a Silverell

hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c  they understand the

severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how  no shielding

seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics,  it's still

not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this  damage is

reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I  pray it's

not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I  eventually get

the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS  symptoms (temp.

paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my  symptoms,

does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so  long

after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this  could be

more Lyme related or more ALS related?



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emraware
Yes, I've heard that some solar inverters can cause problems.   I would recommend you to buy the most basic AM/FM radio from Radioshack (~$15).  This is a good cheap tool to find out what frequencies the solar inverter or battery may be emitting, and identify where it's the least strong.  Put the radio on AM mode, at the lowest frequency possible, and see what low frequency signals there may be.


--- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@...> wrote:

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> Hi. Well, I had a tiny bit of a better sleep last nite after turning off not only the disconnects that deliver power from the solar battery to the house wiring (which I usu. do); I ALSO turned off the DC array disconnect, which collects power from the solar panel & charges the battery. When the sun goes down, theoretically, this should stop collecting electricity & just be inert, but maybe it means that the battery's still more active than it would be if I turned the array off. Either way, I felt just the tiniest bit of difference so plan to do that every nite from now on.
>
> -E. Drew
>
> --- On Sat, 3/26/11, paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...> wrote:
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> From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw cavitations...(...
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 6:31 AM
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> be you problem ?
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> In a message dated 25/03/2011 18:32:19 GMT Standard Time,  
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> necessejamais@... writes:
>
>
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> That's just it, I'm not near ANY electricity, except for the solar battery  
>
> which I only use to deliver power to the wiring every few days, & only  
>
> when needed. The only thing I leave on all the time is the switch used to  
>
> allow the battery to be charged by the solar panel on the roof. That doesn't  
>
> seem to be bothering me. I'm in an area where there's no power lines for 2  
>
> miles, & I think the  nearest cell tower is a mile away, so I'nm not  sure why
>
> it's so bad. Just extra worried b/c of severity of symptoms, &  because
>
> when they install Smart Meters in this area, the nearest 1 will only  be a mile
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> away. I just hope that's enuf distance for it to not affect me, tho  the
>
> range of the SM's is over 2 miles.
>
> -E. Drew
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> --- On Wed,  3/23/11, emraware <_emraware@..._
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> (mailto:emraware@...) >  wrote:
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> From: emraware <_emraware@..._ (mailto:emraware@...) >
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> Subject:  [eSens] Re: Smart Meters, ALS-type symptoms, Lyme and Jaw  
>
> cavitations...(???)
>
> To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
>
> Date:  Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 8:06 PM
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> Hi E. Drew,
>
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> ES  is complicated because it's not just microwaves that can cause
>
> problems.  There's also electricity, magnetic fields, and VLF (very low
>
> frequencies). It  seems that some forms of EMF can cause enough damage that they
>
> sensitize you  to other forms of EMF that you previously weren't sensitive to. I
>
> watched a  video once of a woman who was fine before she lived near a cell
>
> tower. After  that experience, she became sensitive to other electronics and
>
> wireless  devices she never was sensitive to before. In other words, though
>
> you are now  away from the smart meters, you may have been damaged enough by
>
> the smart  meters that you developed a new sensitivity, e.g., to electricity
>
> now. I would  recommend to try turning the electricity off altogether from
>
> the circuit  breaker panel as a test to see if you're sensitive to
>
> electricity.
>
>
>
> As  for the conductive shielding, it does work to shield against
>
> microwaves, but  it may also pick up nearby electrical fields. The larger area the
>
> fabric  covers, the more electrical fields it will pick up from surrounding
>
> walls and  floor (coming from the wiring you do not see). I think if you are
>
> wearing the  fabric close to your body, you probably won't pick up any
>
> electrical fields  that you wouldn't have already picked up because of the water in
>
> our bodies  which is naturally conductive anyway. However, if you are
>
> making a large tent,  your tent corners may be in positions of high electricity
>
> that you would never  physically be near otherwise.
>
>
>
> Note: Conductive shielding doesn't seem  to help with VLF, which needs to
>
> be addressed separately, usually by  unplugging the source of it.
>
>
>
> --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,  
>
> "necessejamais" <necessejamais@> wrote:
>
>
>
> I've been in the  off-grid cabin for about 2 weeks & these symptoms persist
>
> & I even  occasionally still get that buzzing, humming feeling of brain &
>
> body being  microwaved, which I got the whole time I was around Smart Meters.
>
>  
>
>
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Not sure what to do; no money & can't get on  disability or even SSI, b/c
>
> none of my conditions are recognized & I don't  have enuf work credits.
>
> Soon there will be virtually NO PLACE that I can work.  I'm going to try a
>
> conductive shielding hood made from a fabric called Thule,  and a Silverell
>
> hoodie. The company is sending the hood to me for free b/c  they understand the
>
> severity fo my situation, but then I read the posts on how  no shielding
>
> seems to work. The company told me that w/ the shielding fabrics,  it's still
>
> not clear that grounding even works. I'm just praying that this  damage is
>
> reversible, despite the constant disabling symptoms. Most of all, I  pray it's
>
> not ALS & it's just damage from Lyme disease, so that if I  eventually get
>
> the money to treat the Lyme, I'll see the worst of the EHS  symptoms (temp.
>
> paralysis, choking, increased seizures) diminish. Based on my  symptoms,
>
> does anyone ahve any ideas as to why the symptoms have persisted so  long
>
> after removal from exposure, and most of all, whether or not this  could be
>
> more Lyme related or more ALS related?
>
>
>
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