Re: Root causes / Exclusion diets

> However I think this makes Evie's point even more cogent. If there is any
> chance that it is some third underlying factor that has weakened the immune
> system and triggered BOTH the gut dysbiosis and the ES

I suspect that if one is having digestive problems from EMF fields, they
probably have a high level of heavy metals in their intestines. A good
probiotic may help this problem -- I use Primal Defense, which I find
is also helpful for my computer tolerance. Some strains of probiotics
seem to "eat" heavy metals, which may make them helpful for heavy metal
detox.

I personally think a lot of my problems (including the ES) were from heavy
metals.

> So the hope would be that finding the root cause, sorting it out and helping
> the immune system, plus avoidance of e-smog exposure as much as possible,
> could lead to a gradual recovery from ES which allows normal life to be
> partly resumed (while taking continued care about avoiding masts, mobile
> phones etc as the sufferer will always have an underlying susceptibility).

> Do I get the feeling that some people in this group have tried this route
> and seen some improvement?

I've had a huge improvement from my ES problems of 5 years ago, but I'd
have a hard time isolating the number#1 reason for my improvement. Could
be diet, in that I'm getting more of the vitamins/minerals, etc. that I
was deficient in. Could be EMF protection devices, which I suppose is
the same thing as avoidance without actually have to avoid anything. :-)

As for exclusion diets, it's true that I've cut out a lot of things from
my diet, but the notion that one should generically eliminate fruit,
nuts, etc. has always seemed a bit absurd to me, as these foods are loaded
with nutrients that sick people are in need of. I think people should
decide for themselves if a particular food is making them worse, rather
than follow some "expert" advice on foods to eliminate.

Marc

>>> As for exclusion diets, it's true that I've cut out a lot of things
from
my diet, but the notion that one should generically eliminate fruit,
nuts, etc. has always seemed a bit absurd to me, as these foods are loaded
with nutrients that sick people are in need of. I think people should
decide for themselves if a particular food is making them worse, rather
than follow some "expert" advice on foods to eliminate.

Marc

That sounds right to me. A balanced diet has surely got to be best for
normal everyday living, and a lot of experts say "it's better to get your
nutrients from foods rather than supplements if possible". So I do worry
about a lot of the diet advice available on websites, which leaves you
worrying about eating anything at all! That's why I described Sue's
anti-candida diet as "extreme" - it did the job, but I was glad when she was
able to come off it on to something with a wider range.

Ian







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> I've had a huge improvement from my ES problems of 5 years ago, but I'd
> have a hard time isolating the number#1 reason for my improvement. Could
> be diet, in that I'm getting more of the vitamins/minerals, etc. that I
> was deficient in. Could be EMF protection devices, which I suppose is
> the same thing as avoidance without actually have to avoid anything. :-)

And I should note that my wife thinks that it was when I had my mercury
fillings replaced that I started a turnaround for the better. So that
plus taking mercury-detox supplements (mostly NDF) may have also been
very helpful.

Marc