Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

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SArjuna

Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

Jamie wrote that if he sees the needle move a hair on his Trifield 100X
he knows to stay away because there's RF.

The ONLY place I've seen the needle move even a hair on this meter is in
an area where there are 6+ tv and radio towers. I would not recommend
relying on this meter if RF is a problem for you!

You can get an RF alert inexpensively from lessemf.com/. Or, an
Electrosmog Detector from my site. MUCH more sensitive than the Trifield 100X.

Shivani
www.LifeEnergies.com

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charles-4

Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

The Trifield, and certainly the Electrosmog Detector are not sensitive
enough for measuring LCD screens,

For that a VLF Spion or a Profi Spion with ball antenna is suited.

I am awaiting a brandnew optical antenna for my Profi Spion, who wil do all
this very nicely.

I am also awaiting a new lowfrequency meter, which also displays the found
frequncies.

At the moment I am busy translating the newest issue of *het bitje* November
2007 into english.
The dutch and german editions are already on the HP.
It is about the fourth generation of HF meters.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 18:28
Subject: [eSens] Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

> Jamie wrote that if he sees the needle move a hair on his Trifield
> 100X
> he knows to stay away because there's RF.
>
> The ONLY place I've seen the needle move even a hair on this meter is
> in
> an area where there are 6+ tv and radio towers. I would not recommend
> relying on this meter if RF is a problem for you!
>
> You can get an RF alert inexpensively from lessemf.com/. Or, an
> Electrosmog Detector from my site. MUCH more sensitive than the
> Trifield 100X.
>
> Shivani
> www.LifeEnergies.com
>

BiBrun

Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

Great Charles,
I am eagerly awaiting your translation!
Does it also discuss the instruments you are waiting for?
They sound worth knowing more about too.

Will you post to this list when the translation is ready?
Bill

On 11/2/07, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> The Trifield, and certainly the Electrosmog Detector are not sensitive
> enough for measuring LCD screens,
>
> For that a VLF Spion or a Profi Spion with ball antenna is suited.
>
> I am awaiting a brandnew optical antenna for my Profi Spion, who wil do
> all
> this very nicely.
>
> I am also awaiting a new lowfrequency meter, which also displays the found
>
> frequncies.
>
> At the moment I am busy translating the newest issue of *het bitje*
> November
> 2007 into english.
> The dutch and german editions are already on the HP.
> It is about the fourth generation of HF meters.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Bitdefender
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[hidden email] <SArjuna%40aol.com>>
> To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 18:28
> Subject: [eSens] Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF
>
> > Jamie wrote that if he sees the needle move a hair on his Trifield
> > 100X
> > he knows to stay away because there's RF.
> >
> > The ONLY place I've seen the needle move even a hair on this meter is
> > in
> > an area where there are 6+ tv and radio towers. I would not recommend
> > relying on this meter if RF is a problem for you!
> >
> > You can get an RF alert inexpensively from lessemf.com/. Or, an
> > Electrosmog Detector from my site. MUCH more sensitive than the
> > Trifield 100X.
> >
> > Shivani
> > www.LifeEnergies.com
> >
>
>
>

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jaime_schunkewitz

Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

In reply to this post by SArjuna

My reply was to somebody who detected RF from
an LCD monitor using a Trifield meter. That comment
still stands, if one sees that meter move a
hairs width on "Radio/Microwave" band then
you know it's bad stuff.

We all know the Trifield is not sensitive, but it
does detect a wireless router within a few feet, a
microwave oven, and I've seen it pick up ONE cell
phone tower while driving down the highway.

With that said, it would be wise for an electrosensitive
to be equipped with a much more sensitive RF meter in
addition to general purpose Trifield.

Charles is the expert in this area. My laptop
detects 8 wireless networks in my brother's condo,
yet my Trifield "RF field strength Meter" detects
no ambient RF. It would be great to have a meter that
would be sensitive enough to detect these wireless
routers. Charles, any suggestions?

Eli

--- In [hidden email], SArjuna@... wrote:
>
> Jamie wrote that if he sees the needle move a hair on his
Trifield 100X
> he knows to stay away because there's RF.
>
> The ONLY place I've seen the needle move even a hair on this
meter is in
> an area where there are 6+ tv and radio towers. I would not
recommend
> relying on this meter if RF is a problem for you!
>
> You can get an RF alert inexpensively from lessemf.com/. Or, an
> Electrosmog Detector from my site. MUCH more sensitive than the
Trifield 100X.

>
> Shivani
> www.LifeEnergies.com
>
>
> **************************************
> See what's
> new at http://www.aol.com
>
>
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>

Emil at Less EMF Inc

Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

In reply to this post by SArjuna

>It would be great to have a meter that would be sensitive enough to detectthese wireless routers.
For low cost RF meters sensitive enough to detect even background levels (fractions of a nW/cm²), take a look at Electrosmog Meter http://www.lessemf.com/rf.html#492 and Better RF Meter (only $89!) at http://www.lessemf.com/rf.html#437
Of course, there are better (and more expensive) meters as well.
Emil

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BiBrun

Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

I have found the electrosmog meter to be very useful.

It's compact enough to carry in a large pocket.

The readings are a bit temperature dependent, especially
for low values. It's not directional in any useful sense,
and you can't add a directional antenna. And it doesn't go
above 3.5 GHz (although I think it can respond to 5.8GHz,
but underreports by a lot).

Still I think I need something to detect between the triField and this
meter.

It would also be better if it had a sound demodulator or other
way to identify the source (some meters have selectable
frequency bands). The old HF-detektor had demodulation.

On 11/3/07, Less EMF Inc <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> >It would be great to have a meter that would be sensitive enough to
> detect these wireless routers.
> For low cost RF meters sensitive enough to detect even background levels
> (fractions of a nW/cm²), take a look at Electrosmog Meter
> http://www.lessemf.com/rf.html#492 and Better RF Meter (only $89!) at
> http://www.lessemf.com/rf.html#437
> Of course, there are better (and more expensive) meters as well.
> Emil
>
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>
>
>

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PUK

Re: RADIOWAVES FROM LCD SCREEN / detecting RF

In reply to this post by SArjuna

In a message dated 11/3/2007 6:02:51 PM GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

My reply was to somebody who detected RF from
an LCD monitor using a Trifield meter. That comment
still stands, if one sees that meter move a
hairs width on "Radio/Microwave" band then
you know it's bad stuff.

We all know the Trifield is not sensitive, but it
does detect a wireless router within a few feet, a
microwave oven, and I've seen it pick up ONE cell
phone tower while driving down the highway.

With that said, it would be wise for an

Thanks Eli, I only really use the trifeild for emf/efeilds, I have a
Electrosmog detector for cell phones etc. The only reason I used the triefeild in
RF mode was to check the rf and yes the needle moved to over .1mw/cm2 which I
found unusual my noisy laptop does not evan show a twitch on the needle. I
am sticking to the esmog detector and early next year a new model is due for
release which measure up to 7gig with aread power level display.

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