Re: Mercury fillings and EHS

Thanks for your kind post, Ian.

I was already being effected by EMFs when I had the amalgam removal
in August. A week or so after that I flew from Maui to the UK and the
ringing in my ears started soon after that. I have juggled several
theories including air pressure during the flight compacting ear wax
(which I've heard can cause tinnitus) but I am increasingly inclined
to believe that it could be the mercury vapor.

I have become increasingly affected since so there could be a
connection. I was so happy that I found a dentist on Maui who took
mercury toxicity seriously and used a rubber dam etc but it sounds
like the protocol he uses doesn't go far enough.

I had been looking into have my fillings removed at the 'sedation
clinic' in Bristol where they put you under and have you breathe
oxygen, but realised I couldn't fit this in during a short visit.
Using anaesthetic sounds a bit extreme - I would have thought just
having you breath with an oxygen mask would be enough.

Sue is lucky to have such an understanding partner. My husband did
move a couple of those huge speakers and we moved the bed yesterday,
which is some progress. He is very senstive to cell phones and can't
stand being in a room with a wireless box so he is sensitive himself
(to microwaves anyway). I tell him 'think of me as you own personal
canary in the coalmine' re other frequencies.

Yes, I can see that our bodies are more sensitive than measuring
instruments and we do have a slight electromagnetic charges ourselves
I believe. Maybe our personal field interacts with the fields in our
environment to varying degrees.

Re speakers: I see that there is no reading when they are
disconnected but they have powerful magnets (and I have heard that
unshielded ones can knock out a hard drive - we think that is what
happened to my computer which died while in storage near our huge old
speakers). This is pure conjecture now but I wonder if magnets in
some way interract with the EMFs emitted by appliances near them?

We have a huge speaker in our living room with readings of over 100
gauss (it's there to take out the base from the 2 speakers that
actually emit the sound (a "subwoofer"?). Is this exceptionally high
for a speaker?

Best wishes to you both,
Aline

In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:

Hi Aline,
Unfortunately it is quite possible that the mercury removal could have
something to do with your ES symptoms. My wife Sue had her mercury
fillings removed and her chemical sensitivity worsened sharply, then
she got ES a month later, with the same symptoms - ringing in the
ears (in fact, throughout her head). My "take" on this is that
removing the fillings releases a vastly greater quantity of mobile
mercury vapour than the tiny amounts normally leached from fillings.  
So if someone is reacting to the latter, the removal can cause a far
greater reaction, even if only a tiny proportion gets past the rubber
dam. So a detox protocol to mop up any mercury vapour that gets into
the body now seems essential to us.

There are electric fields, electromagnetic waves (including
microwaves, radio waves, lights etc) and magnetic fields, all
slightly different.

People seem to react to different ones to different extents. Sue was
sure she was getting problems with the loudspeakers of my hi-fi
system, even though they were switched off and unplugged at the wall
(and even disconnected). I removed them and there may have been an
improvement (it was hard to tell because she was reacting to so many
things at the time).

The only possible cause I could think of was residual magnetic fields
in the coils. Maybe the same might happen with the armature of the
motor in the ceiling fan? Largely guessing as I'm not an electrical
engineer.
 
Our sympathies to both you and your husband, we know from personal
experience how hard it is for both the sufferer (her) and the puzzled
partner (me) to cope with this mysterious condition which in so many
ways seems to break all normal common-sense rules! There are
patterns, but they are difficult to detect and I have had to learn to
trust Sue's experiences - our bodies are often more sensitive meters
than any current measuring instrument. However, even as a sceptical
scientist, I am now convinced of the reality of ES, even if so far we
don't understand it very much at all.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue

ALINE WROTE - I was already being effected by EMFs when I had the amalgam
removal
in August. A week or so after that I flew from Maui to the UK and the
ringing in my ears started soon after that. I have juggled several
theories including air pressure during the flight compacting ear wax
(which I've heard can cause tinnitus) but I am increasingly inclined
to believe that it could be the mercury vapor.

PAUL REPLIED -



Always in the evenings and into the night my bilateral tinitus increases,
not just due to lower noise levels and perhaps less active patterns in evenings,
I take it as being a sign of overload perhaps the acoustic nerve being a
sound translater/pick up becomes overloaded and almost diseased from the
pounding it receives from the daily dose of unwanted frequencies that is undoubtedly
has to deal with. It may be picking up partially from the blood flow with
its disturbed heama(iron) content (disturbed electron spin at cellular/atomic
level) that obviosly feeds it or circulate close by. By the way I
definately can hear a change in the tinitus when I approach/drive toward certain
clusters of telephone mast how about you ? To combat the tinitus a regime of
yoga/regulated breathing and restorative diet is probably as good as you can
achieve naturally.


best wishes Paul - Guessing as usual but I hope you see my point.

PS have you checked that your Sub Woofer is not fed by a transformer to
boost the power if so there in lies your problem ???


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> have a huge speaker in our living room with readings of over 100
> gauss (it's there to take out the base from the 2 speakers that
> actually emit the sound (a "subwoofer"?). Is this exceptionally high
> for a speaker?

I haven't heard of people being sensitive to a subwoofer, but anything
is possible I suppose. Certainly you could try to move it away
for a day and see if you notice anything different. I'd say that
it is far more likely that the dimmer switch and TV are bothering
you, as it's more likely the RF noise and high frequencies causing
trouble than the plain gauss reading.

> I have become increasingly affected since so there could be a
> connection. I was so happy that I found a dentist on Maui who took
> mercury toxicity seriously and used a rubber dam etc but it sounds
> like the protocol he uses doesn't go far enough.

I you're on Maui, you might want to try visiting the "Alive and
Well Natural Food Store and Deli" in Kahului, which I think is the
most serious health food / supplement store on Maui. The owner may
know of the best mercury removal dentists on Maui. Also, I know that
they sell some EMF protection devices there, so you might be able
to try them, see if they work, and return them if they don't.

Marc

Thanks Aline. Some thoughts. The tinnitus could be affected by lots of
things (in Sue's case, strong light, loud noise, EMF's and some foods all
make it worse, a good sleep makes it better and we find this is helped by
turning off the power at night). The evidence from many people's
experiences in this group suggests that a weakened immune system is a major
factor in ES developing initially. Removing mercury fillings should make
this better in the long term, but the short-term increased dose does often
seem to cause problems.
 
I've not heard of the "sedation clinic". Is the oxygen done in addition to
the air dam? I wouldn't be at all sure that it would be sufficient to mop
up the mercury. And a general anaesthetic has drawbacks; quite a lot of
people with weakened immune systems seem to be susceptible to it (we think
it was a major cause of Sue's initial problems, years before she got to the
stage of developing ES). You might have been lucky to avoid the "Bristol
treatment"! Good "protocols" are those which aim to strengthen the immune
system and mop up any ingested mercury and excrete it from the body before
it can do harm by accumulating somewhere bad (like the brain). So things
like cilantro, chlorella, glutathione and intravenous vitamin C are
recommended by various people. There's no real consensus, so many dentists
do nothing at all, but this can be really bad for the very people who need
the treatment most. We have learnt by trial and error - and, unfortunately,
an awful lot of error.
 
To me the underlying question is always; Why did one's immune system get so
weak in the first place? There is often a physiological reason. In Sue's
case, after much testing, it showed that her liver was failing to metabolise
some types of compounds, and key biochemicals had become severely depleted.
Infusions of these have improved her general health and reduced her
sensitivity to chemicals (and her ES, but not by so much).
 
Best wishes, Ian and Sue

_____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Aline
Sent: 19 December 2006 18:40
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: Mercury fillings and EHS



Thanks for your kind post, Ian.

I was already being effected by EMFs when I had the amalgam removal
in August. A week or so after that I flew from Maui to the UK and the
ringing in my ears started soon after that. I have juggled several
theories including air pressure during the flight compacting ear wax
(which I've heard can cause tinnitus) but I am increasingly inclined
to believe that it could be the mercury vapor.

I have become increasingly affected since so there could be a
connection. I was so happy that I found a dentist on Maui who took
mercury toxicity seriously and used a rubber dam etc but it sounds
like the protocol he uses doesn't go far enough.

I had been looking into have my fillings removed at the 'sedation
clinic' in Bristol where they put you under and have you breathe
oxygen, but realised I couldn't fit this in during a short visit.
Using anaesthetic sounds a bit extreme - I would have thought just
having you breath with an oxygen mask would be enough.

Sue is lucky to have such an understanding partner. My husband did
move a couple of those huge speakers and we moved the bed yesterday,
which is some progress. He is very senstive to cell phones and can't
stand being in a room with a wireless box so he is sensitive himself
(to microwaves anyway). I tell him 'think of me as you own personal
canary in the coalmine' re other frequencies.

Yes, I can see that our bodies are more sensitive than measuring
instruments and we do have a slight electromagnetic charges ourselves
I believe. Maybe our personal field interacts with the fields in our
environment to varying degrees.

Re speakers: I see that there is no reading when they are
disconnected but they have powerful magnets (and I have heard that
unshielded ones can knock out a hard drive - we think that is what
happened to my computer which died while in storage near our huge old
speakers). This is pure conjecture now but I wonder if magnets in
some way interract with the EMFs emitted by appliances near them?

We have a huge speaker in our living room with readings of over 100
gauss (it's there to take out the base from the 2 speakers that
actually emit the sound (a "subwoofer"?). Is this exceptionally high
for a speaker?

Best wishes to you both,
Aline

In eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Ian Kemp"
<ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:

Hi Aline,
Unfortunately it is quite possible that the mercury removal could have
something to do with your ES symptoms. My wife Sue had her mercury
fillings removed and her chemical sensitivity worsened sharply, then
she got ES a month later, with the same symptoms - ringing in the
ears (in fact, throughout her head). My "take" on this is that
removing the fillings releases a vastly greater quantity of mobile
mercury vapour than the tiny amounts normally leached from fillings.
So if someone is reacting to the latter, the removal can cause a far
greater reaction, even if only a tiny proportion gets past the rubber
dam. So a detox protocol to mop up any mercury vapour that gets into
the body now seems essential to us.

There are electric fields, electromagnetic waves (including
microwaves, radio waves, lights etc) and magnetic fields, all
slightly different.

People seem to react to different ones to different extents. Sue was
sure she was getting problems with the loudspeakers of my hi-fi
system, even though they were switched off and unplugged at the wall
(and even disconnected). I removed them and there may have been an
improvement (it was hard to tell because she was reacting to so many
things at the time).

The only possible cause I could think of was residual magnetic fields
in the coils. Maybe the same might happen with the armature of the
motor in the ceiling fan? Largely guessing as I'm not an electrical
engineer.

Our sympathies to both you and your husband, we know from personal
experience how hard it is for both the sufferer (her) and the puzzled
partner (me) to cope with this mysterious condition which in so many
ways seems to break all normal common-sense rules! There are
patterns, but they are difficult to detect and I have had to learn to
trust Sue's experiences - our bodies are often more sensitive meters
than any current measuring instrument. However, even as a sceptical
scientist, I am now convinced of the reality of ES, even if so far we
don't understand it very much at all.

Best wishes, Ian and Sue



 


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> I was already being effected by EMFs when I had the amalgam removal
> in August. A week or so after that I flew from Maui to the UK and the
> ringing in my ears started soon after that. I have juggled several
> theories including air pressure during the flight compacting ear wax
> (which I've heard can cause tinnitus) but I am increasingly inclined
> to believe that it could be the mercury vapor.

Note that from my own experiences with amalgam removal, my dentist
followed all of the recommended precautions for removal, and yet
I spent the following 2 weeks in a rather incapacitated state. You
see, once these fillings were out of my mouth, my body just
started "dumping" mercury on its own. Fortunately, I had already
found some supplements that I knew could help me out with this
sort of thing, so I survived it okay. But it really didn't
seem to have anything to do with the lack of the dentist
following recommended procedures. I believe Hal Huggins
mentions in one of his books about how the body will start
dumping mercury once the fillings are removed, and that
certainly was the case for me.

Marc

Hi Marc,

That is helpful to know. It doesn't apply in my case as I still have
a mouthful of amalgam. Will try and be prepared for detox when I have
the rest of my fillings removed, however.

Aloha,
Aline

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

> > I was already being effected by EMFs when I had the amalgam
removal
> > in August. A week or so after that I flew from Maui to the UK and
the
> > ringing in my ears started soon after that. I have juggled
several
> > theories including air pressure during the flight compacting ear
wax
> > (which I've heard can cause tinnitus) but I am increasingly
inclined

Re: Mercury fillings and EHS

I haven't had any experience with dental amalgam fillings or mercury toxicity, but was
looking for a good source of info on the topic that I could link to from mywebsite, and I
found this:

http://www.thiscureworks.com/heavymetals/

Looks promising to me.

Gilligan Joy

Hello,

on http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina114b.html

there is a lot of information about amalgam as well as some links.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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