Re: EMF

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That is helpful to know. That means that it is really around 3 or 4
milligauss. When you have the black knob selector set to 0-3, that
means to read the middle line and that also means you are getting 3 or
4 milligauss, not 100mG. Turn the selector one click to the left and
read the top line magnetic field readings and see what you get.
I too am sensitive to 1 or 2 mG. I can feel them down to around .02 mG
in my bed.
Is this reading all over your house or only in certain locations?
Andrew
On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:55 AM, maureenan2 wrote:

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If you have the meter set on the 0-100 setting and not the 0-3 mG
setting and you are getting 100 mG in the location, then get out.
That is ridiculous and incredible.
Research has shown that regular exposures of 2-3mG increase cancer at
least 50%. Who knows what a constant 100mG reading would do other than
Leukemia and various other maladies.
Andrew

On Feb 22, 2006, at 2:45 PM, m.a.norman wrote:

> Thanks Andrew, it's also high on the other when
> I've checked it. The electricity company's report
> says they have registered it at 94 and when they
> have monitored it it's not been at it's highest. In
> their report to me they say it's not considered
> a danger until it's 100.
>
> Maureen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@nc.rr.com>
> To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMF
>
>
>> That is helpful to know. That means that it is really around 3 or 4
>> milligauss. When you have the black knob selector set to 0-3, that
>> means to read the middle line and that also means you are getting 3 or
>> 4 milligauss, not 100mG. Turn the selector one click to the left and
>> read the top line magnetic field readings and see what you get.
>> I too am sensitive to 1 or 2 mG. I can feel them down to around .02 mG
>> in my bed.
>> Is this reading all over your house or only in certain locations?
>> Andrew

>>>
>>> --- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andrew McAfee" <amcafeerr@nc.rr.com>
>>> To: "m.a.norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMF
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tell me again what the 100 is. Is that milliguass?
>>>> That is incredible.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:44 AM, m.a.norman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your reply, your're the only one who has bothered
>>>>> to do so. So, no I haven't received any answers, maybe nobody
>>>>> knows one. Certainly Central Network here don't have one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Andrew McAfee" <amcafeerr@nc.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "m.a.norman" <m.a.norman@ntlworld.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you get answers to your questions yet? I haven't kept track
>>> of the
>>>>>> recent emails on the list.
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Andrew

>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Andrew McAfee" <amcafeerr@nc.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:49 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EMF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Christina,
>>>>>>>> Here is an email address for Charles Keen
>>>>>>>> ck1@emfservices.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a couple of
>>> years ago
>>>>>>>> when I lived next door to the towers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like most of your problems come from over exposure
>>> to cell
>>>>>>>> phones and computer screens. These are easy to remedy. Don't
>>> use a
>>>>>>>> cell
>>>>>>>> phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone.
>>>>>>>> Experiment with low radiation screens for your computer and
>>> limit
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> time on it. Back away as far as you can from it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get an RF
>>> meter
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> measures microwave/radio radiation. You don't need to spend
>>> more
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> $100 to get the basics covered. You need to know if you are
>>> working
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> sleeping in an environment with more than 2 mG. 0.00 is the
>>> goal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You want as low as possible RF radiation as possible so you
>>> need to
>>>>>>>> know when things are lower and confirm it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as wiring, the gauss meter can tell you quickly if
>>> things are
>>>>>>>> wired well or not. If anything is over 2 mg at hip level, you
>>> have a
>>>>>>>> problem. Get all the appliances like heaters, power strips,
>>> fuse
>>>>>>>> boxes,
>>>>>>>> etc away from you because they will create magnetic fields
>>> far in
>>>>>>>> excess of what is healthy.
>>>>>>>> Stetzer Microsurge meter
>>>>>>>> http://www.stetzerelectric.com/
>>>>>>>> can tell you how much excess radiation and appliance
>>> harmonics are
>>>>>>>> flooding your electrical system. Stetzer Filters and power
>>> strips
>>>>>>>> http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html
>>>>>>>> can significantly reduce these emissions along the wiring.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as radio/microwave protection, for 2 years, I slept
>>> with a
>>>>>>>> fabric wrapped around my head that had silver lining in it
>>> and it
>>>>>>>> helped me tremendously while I slept. I have a shielded hat
>>> that I
>>>>>>>> wear
>>>>>>>> frequently while shopping, in restaurants, etc, whenever I am
>>> around
>>>>>>>> cell phones or wireless internet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Learn for yourself how this stuff works by using the meters
>>> and
>>>>>>>> measuring how your body feels.
>>>>>>>> There is much more and we'll get into that later. First thing
>>> is get
>>>>>>>> some meters and cut down on exposure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also believe that that body needs to be regenerated from
>>> being
>>>>>>>> overexposed from radiation and chemicals from our food, air,
>>> carpet,
>>>>>>>> walls, cars, computers, etc... Our body systems are taking a
>>> huge
>>>>>>>> hit.
>>>>>>>> I believe the first thing is to have all metal fillings
>>> removed by a
>>>>>>>> protocol dentist, and then begin a slow and easy detox
>>> regimen while
>>>>>>>> rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic foods.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions.
>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, christina2005r wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is where we need to get more specific. What are your
>>>>>>>>>> symptoms
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> exhaustion, eyestrain, headaches, fatigue, short term memory
>>>>>>>>> problems, difficulty completing/focusing on tasks, feeling
>>> very
>>>>>>>>> overwhelmed/overloaded, light sensitivity (I set the refresh
>>> rate
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the best possible and my computer at wor has a "glare
>>> screen" -
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> seems to help a little). Also I wear a visor with a brim to
>>> help
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> florescent lights (the visual aspect)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> where do you feel that way?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mostly anywhere I am on a computer. This would be at work
>>> and home.
>>>>>>>>> Although I feel the same way on friend's computers. Also, I
>>> have
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same symptoms around TV, although I have reduced this by not
>>>>>>>>> watching
>>>>>>>>> it, and if I'm around people who are; just being very far
>>> away from
>>>>>>>>> the TV and not looing at it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To some degree, I must just be EMF sensitive in general
>>> because
>>>>>>>>> I "usually" don't feel good. I feel alot better when, say,
>>> outside
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the woods taking a walk, away from all gadgets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am guessing the main culprit is both the
>>>>>>>>> (typical monitor work computer
>>>>>>>>> (laptop)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Plus the flourescent lights at work. This seems to relaly
>>> visually
>>>>>>>>> bother me; I can't wear a visor there, so am guessing htis
>>> is more
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> visual thing than an "electric" thing...but not sure if
>>> there is
>>>>>>>>> anything I can "do" to the flourscent lights...They just get
>>> turned
>>>>>>>>> on automatically; and I'm in a cubicle where the lights
>>> would also
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> supplying other peopls' work areas....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am guessing also just general "EMF overlaod" because I use
>>> a cell
>>>>>>>>> phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around alot
>>> of "gadgets"
>>>>>>>>> unfortuantely.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (like a tower nearby
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> none that I know of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or your house wiring,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't have any idea. It doesn't seem like it is something
>>>>>>>>> specifically WORSE here (I just moved here about 6 months
>>> ago, and
>>>>>>>>> had the same symptoms before.) That isn't to say that a
>>> change in
>>>>>>>>> wiring couldn't make it BETTER...just that there isn't
>>>>>>>>> anything "terrible" with my house wiring; I feel the same
>>> way
>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>> any other house I've been in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> computer screen,
>>>>>>>>> ***Yes, this seems to be a major problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cell phones,
>>>>>>>>> *** Very likely; I use mine so much. I dont get eyestrain
>>> with it;
>>>>>>>>> but do get headaches/feeling tired/memory problem stuff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> etc.)
>>>>>>>>>> Lessemf.com has books on house wiring.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any specific "easy" ones for starters?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, is there any "easy" way to make some kind of
>>> protective thing
>>>>>>>>> for while I sleep, like WITHOUT having to fix wiring (I rent
>>> an
>>>>>>>>> apartment so really can't make too many changes). I saw on
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> lessemf a "faraday canopy" that is $300. Is that helpful?
>>> Is
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> any way to make a farday cage for cheaper? (Like one that I
>>> could
>>>>>>>>> make a box size, put a blanket on the bottom, and sleep in?
>>> At
>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>> that way I wouldn't be overloaded with EMF for those 8
>>> hours. I
>>>>>>>>> looked it up online and was confused as to
>>>>>>>>> 1. What material could be used?
>>>>>>>>> 2. What the "grounding" it means. Does that mean if it is on
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ground it is okay?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, what type of protective personal shielding actually
>>> WORKS. I
>>>>>>>>> saw on the less EMF how they have things like a baseball
>>> cap, etc -
>>>>>>>>> but then read something else that something has to be
>>> completely
>>>>>>>>> encircled plus "grounded" (I dont know how to do that) for
>>> it to be
>>>>>>>>> effective. So how do you do that as a person to be able to go
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hey Maureen,
Don't let it bother if you don't get replies. I didn't even see this
till today. Sometimes the msgs. don't come in my box at all, sometimes
I get doubles, sometimes two days show up at once, so I'm sure others
have that trouble too, and they may just get missed at times.

Of course I don't answer if I haven't anything to say either.  

Those things in your teeth, is it suppose to just be fillings? Maybe I
missed something in reading, I mentioned I'd want them out, but they
don't look like the ones I've seen in my teeth.

Hope you find something quick, maybe some of the protective clothing
for underneath your outerwear. I know it's been mentioned on here.  
Not cheap, but maybe give you more protection than what you've got
right now?

~ Snoshoe

Hi Maureen....I am still figuring out the board. It would be nice to have all the messages
related to a post follow the original message. All posted as original ans RE responses
makes it difficult to follow along.

Take care.

Karen
--- In eSens@yahoogroups.com, "snoshoe_2" <nonengbunny@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Maureen,
> Don't let it bother if you don't get replies. I didn't even see this
> till today. Sometimes the msgs. don't come in my box at all, sometimes
> I get doubles, sometimes two days show up at once, so I'm sure others
> have that trouble too, and they may just get missed at times.
>
> Of course I don't answer if I haven't anything to say either.  
>
> Those things in your teeth, is it suppose to just be fillings? Maybe I
> missed something in reading, I mentioned I'd want them out, but they
> don't look like the ones I've seen in my teeth.
>
> Hope you find something quick, maybe some of the protective clothing
> for underneath your outerwear. I know it's been mentioned on here.  
> Not cheap, but maybe give you more protection than what you've got
> right now?
>
> ~ Snoshoe