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Re: Digest Number 581

Judy Marie Taylor
Hi Charles,
To explain a little more, I feel it before the furnace kicks in, so I'm
thinking it is either the thermostat itself or something (electrical) in the
furnace that I'm reacting to. There is a pilot light that runs all the time,
but something lights the main burners. I feel it before the fan comes on so
its not the fan. And if there is no electricity the furnace won't work at
all.
But, grounding it might help a whole lot. There is one small ground wire
outside, attached to the pipe and goes into the ground (because I accidently
dug it up one time).

Have any of you found grounding your house, water pipes and so on to help?

Thanks Charles I hadn't thought of an alternating magnetic field making me
hot!

Where else would I find an alternating magnetic field to see if it made me
feel the same way?


> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:18:42 +0100
> From: "charles" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 577
>
> Hello Judy,
>
> you wrote:
> > I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up
> > and
> > down my body before it turns on.
>
> I have found on some gas furnaces with electrical switches for igniting
the
> flames that they may give a large magnetic AC field, when the line is not
> grounded.
> So, you may try and disconnect the electrical cord from the wall plug and
> see if the furnace still hinders you.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens

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Re: Digest Number 581

charles-4
Hello Judy,

it may also be, that you feel the disturbing frequencies of 5 kHz up to 150
kHz, which are probably present in you mains line.
I have found with the Stetzeriser meter, that values in GS units below 30
are acceptable for electrosensibles.
Values of 200 and 500 may make you feel, as you do now.

Those VLF frequencies are in your house by two means.
First, they may enter via your main electricity network, and the sources may
be from several different connections.
There are filters, one can place in the entering mains line in the
meter/fuse cabinet.

Secondly, you may be the source yourself.
It may be your computer, some halogen lamps, other electric appliances.
For that, you may place those Stetzer filters, or filters from other
companies.

I find that the Stetzer filters lack a grounding connection.
In the houses overhere, there are not that many empty wall sockets.

If you look at:
http://www.netzfilter.at/Filter/downloads/index.html
and download *Presentation Grundlagen Netzfilter*, you may see, with
Powerpoint, a slideshow.
Although it is in German, most of the images speak for themselves.
You may also see, that there are Norms.
The EN 50160 regulates from 0 Hz up to 1250 Hz or 1.25 kHz.
Then there is the EN 55011 and 55022, which regulates from 150 kHz up to 30
MHz.
Conclusion: between 1.25 kHz and 150 kHz, there are no regulatory Norms.

If you look further, you can see what damages those frequencies may do to
some electrical parts.
And further on 138 Flat monitors in a Computersupermarket, etc.

It should be clear by now, that the most complex machinery, the human being,
may also be susceptible to such frequencies.

As Shivani has pointed out earlier, on
http://www.stetzerelectric.com/filters/research/ there is also many
interesting documentation.
As is on: http://www.electricalpollution.com/

BTW, I also do have a VLF or HAARP Detektor.
With that meter I find those frequencies in the *air*, as the Stetzeriser
meter only works in a wall socket.
I may mount several diffenet antennas on it.
So did I do some tests with a 15 mm contact probe, and found disturbing
signals of 30 kHz, by placing the probe on the display of an ordinary
telephone with cord.
If I lifted the probe some 5 cm away, I could hardly detect the signal.

But my wife was hindered by this signal 2 meters away.

You may state, that my VLF meter is not sensitive enough, although I am very
satisfied with it, but my point is, that electrosensitive people may react
to very, very low signals, which are very hard to find, but to which they
may react strongly.

PS by furnace, I thought that you mean cooking furnace, to prepare food.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Marie Taylor" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 16:48
Subject: Re: [eSens] Digest Number 581


> Hi Charles,
> To explain a little more, I feel it before the furnace kicks in, so I'm
> thinking it is either the thermostat itself or something (electrical) in
> the
> furnace that I'm reacting to. There is a pilot light that runs all the
> time,
> but something lights the main burners. I feel it before the fan comes on
> so
> its not the fan. And if there is no electricity the furnace won't work at
> all.
> But, grounding it might help a whole lot. There is one small ground wire
> outside, attached to the pipe and goes into the ground (because I
> accidently
> dug it up one time).
>
> Have any of you found grounding your house, water pipes and so on to help?
>
> Thanks Charles I hadn't thought of an alternating magnetic field making me
> hot!
>
> Where else would I find an alternating magnetic field to see if it made me
> feel the same way?
>
>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:18:42 +0100
>> From: "charles" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: Digest Number 577
>>
>> Hello Judy,
>>
>> you wrote:
>> > I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up
>> > and
>> > down my body before it turns on.
>>
>> I have found on some gas furnaces with electrical switches for igniting
> the
>> flames that they may give a large magnetic AC field, when the line is not
>> grounded.
>> So, you may try and disconnect the electrical cord from the wall plug and
>> see if the furnace still hinders you.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Charles Claessens
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