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Re: Digest Number 577

Judy Marie Taylor
Here are my 2 cents worth for these questions.
1. What is your geographical location? (city/country)

Live in rural Alberta, Canada
2. How severe are your ES symptoms? I.e. do you consider your ES merely
irritating, or has
it seriously impacted your productivity and quality of life?

I consider it a huge impact, I have trouble interacting in the 'real' world.
I'm fine if I stay far, far away from any electricity. Traveling is
difficult, so is working, shopping.

Optional:
3. What factors do you identify as contributing to your ES? (e.g. heavy
metal toxicity,
proximity to cell phone towers, heavy metal toxicity)

Over dose of electricity - I just to work in a place just feet away from a
huge ground based transformer and a fridge in the room. Then there was a
lot of loose current from an incorrectly wired stock waterer where I live.
I find fridges are the worst for me, but telephone, and all other
electrical things do bother me.

I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up and
down my body before it turns on.


4. What other serious health issues are you experiencing besides ES? (direct
relationship to
ES need not be established)

I find that exposure makes my muscles very sore and hard. My body retains
fluid in an effort to protect it's self. Which of course hurts. Major
migraines which I have had not since removing a surge protector from under
my bed.

I live within sight of six cell phone towers but I can't really determine if
they add to the problem or not. (likely they do)

I can 'feel' when I am getting close to over head power lines - pain in the
stomach and in the lower back. I have a raw esophagus which medication does
not help but being in less electricity does.

Hope this will help. Being rural is no help, electricity is here too. I
would like to move somewhere there is no power but- much to my surprise -
there aren't any places that do not have electricity!

Good luck to all of us

Judy

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Re: Digest Number 577

charles-4
Hello Judy,

you wrote:
> I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up
> and
> down my body before it turns on.

I have found on some gas furnaces with electrical switches for igniting the
flames taht they may give a large magnetic AC field, when the line is not
grounded.
So, you may try and disconnect the electrical cord from the wall plug and
see if the furnace still hinders you.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Marie Taylor" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 17:13
Subject: Re: [eSens] Digest Number 577


> Here are my 2 cents worth for these questions.
> 1. What is your geographical location? (city/country)
>
> Live in rural Alberta, Canada
> 2. How severe are your ES symptoms? I.e. do you consider your ES merely
> irritating, or has
> it seriously impacted your productivity and quality of life?
>
> I consider it a huge impact, I have trouble interacting in the 'real'
> world.
> I'm fine if I stay far, far away from any electricity. Traveling is
> difficult, so is working, shopping.
>
> Optional:
> 3. What factors do you identify as contributing to your ES? (e.g. heavy
> metal toxicity,
> proximity to cell phone towers, heavy metal toxicity)
>
> Over dose of electricity - I just to work in a place just feet away from a
> huge ground based transformer and a fridge in the room. Then there was a
> lot of loose current from an incorrectly wired stock waterer where I live.
> I find fridges are the worst for me, but telephone, and all other
> electrical things do bother me.
>
> I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up
> and
> down my body before it turns on.
>
>
> 4. What other serious health issues are you experiencing besides ES?
> (direct
> relationship to
> ES need not be established)
>
> I find that exposure makes my muscles very sore and hard. My body retains
> fluid in an effort to protect it's self. Which of course hurts. Major
> migraines which I have had not since removing a surge protector from under
> my bed.
>
> I live within sight of six cell phone towers but I can't really determine
> if
> they add to the problem or not. (likely they do)
>
> I can 'feel' when I am getting close to over head power lines - pain in
> the
> stomach and in the lower back. I have a raw esophagus which medication
> does
> not help but being in less electricity does.
>
> Hope this will help. Being rural is no help, electricity is here too. I
> would like to move somewhere there is no power but- much to my surprise -
> there aren't any places that do not have electricity!
>
> Good luck to all of us
>
> Judy

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RE: Natural gas boilers

Ian Kemp
Yes, we measured our gas boiler with a field meter and found it gave a
magnetic (not electric) field when the furnace was alight. The furnace has
an electrical relay to open the gas supply line, and this is a coil
(transformer), hence the magnetic field. As far as I know this is virtually
standard on boilers, at least in the UK, for safety reasons (the gas supply
automatically shuts off if the power or ignition fails). With this type of
boiler, turning off the electrical power will stop it working completely.
Ian


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
charles
Sent: 04 December 2005 20:19
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Digest Number 577

Hello Judy,

you wrote:
> I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up
> and
> down my body before it turns on.

I have found on some gas furnaces with electrical switches for igniting the
flames taht they may give a large magnetic AC field, when the line is not
grounded.
So, you may try and disconnect the electrical cord from the wall plug and
see if the furnace still hinders you.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus



----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Marie Taylor" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 17:13
Subject: Re: [eSens] Digest Number 577


> Here are my 2 cents worth for these questions.
> 1. What is your geographical location? (city/country)
>
> Live in rural Alberta, Canada
> 2. How severe are your ES symptoms? I.e. do you consider your ES merely
> irritating, or has
> it seriously impacted your productivity and quality of life?
>
> I consider it a huge impact, I have trouble interacting in the 'real'
> world.
> I'm fine if I stay far, far away from any electricity. Traveling is
> difficult, so is working, shopping.
>
> Optional:
> 3. What factors do you identify as contributing to your ES? (e.g. heavy
> metal toxicity,
> proximity to cell phone towers, heavy metal toxicity)
>
> Over dose of electricity - I just to work in a place just feet away from a
> huge ground based transformer and a fridge in the room. Then there was a
> lot of loose current from an incorrectly wired stock waterer where I live.
> I find fridges are the worst for me, but telephone, and all other
> electrical things do bother me.
>
> I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up
> and
> down my body before it turns on.
>
>
> 4. What other serious health issues are you experiencing besides ES?
> (direct
> relationship to
> ES need not be established)
>
> I find that exposure makes my muscles very sore and hard. My body retains
> fluid in an effort to protect it's self. Which of course hurts. Major
> migraines which I have had not since removing a surge protector from under
> my bed.
>
> I live within sight of six cell phone towers but I can't really determine
> if
> they add to the problem or not. (likely they do)
>
> I can 'feel' when I am getting close to over head power lines - pain in
> the
> stomach and in the lower back. I have a raw esophagus which medication
> does
> not help but being in less electricity does.
>
> Hope this will help. Being rural is no help, electricity is here too. I
> would like to move somewhere there is no power but- much to my surprise -
> there aren't any places that do not have electricity!
>
> Good luck to all of us
>
> Judy






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Re: non electrical heat sources

evie15422
In reply to this post by Judy Marie Taylor
Hi again, Judy,

I forgot to mention that I do not have ES, so I cannot say whether the floor furnace is going to bother you. I was only reporting that there are furnaces out there which do not require electricity to run. We also own a free-standing natural gas fireplace. It has a fan on it, but the fan can be disabled. It, too, will still heat our outdoor summer/winter porch (which is 12 x 20 and enclosed in glass) without electricity. And it didn't require venting, tho I think it is not suitable for bedrooms, due to the venting issue.

Diane

Judy Marie Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here are my 2 cents worth for these questions.
1. What is your geographical location? (city/country)

Live in rural Alberta, Canada
2. How severe are your ES symptoms? I.e. do you consider your ES merely
irritating, or has
it seriously impacted your productivity and quality of life?

I consider it a huge impact, I have trouble interacting in the 'real' world.
I'm fine if I stay far, far away from any electricity. Traveling is
difficult, so is working, shopping.

Optional:
3. What factors do you identify as contributing to your ES? (e.g. heavy
metal toxicity,
proximity to cell phone towers, heavy metal toxicity)

Over dose of electricity - I just to work in a place just feet away from a
huge ground based transformer and a fridge in the room. Then there was a
lot of loose current from an incorrectly wired stock waterer where I live.
I find fridges are the worst for me, but telephone, and all other
electrical things do bother me.

I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up and
down my body before it turns on.


4. What other serious health issues are you experiencing besides ES? (direct
relationship to
ES need not be established)

I find that exposure makes my muscles very sore and hard. My body retains
fluid in an effort to protect it's self. Which of course hurts. Major
migraines which I have had not since removing a surge protector from under
my bed.

I live within sight of six cell phone towers but I can't really determine if
they add to the problem or not. (likely they do)

I can 'feel' when I am getting close to over head power lines - pain in the
stomach and in the lower back. I have a raw esophagus which medication does
not help but being in less electricity does.

Hope this will help. Being rural is no help, electricity is here too. I
would like to move somewhere there is no power but- much to my surprise -
there aren't any places that do not have electricity!

Good luck to all of us

Judy





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