Re: Deterioration of RF-shielding paint?
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Hello, this is my first post. I live with 16 Smartmeters 10 feet away from my condominium and next-door and overhead residents with strong WiFi. I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I am considering painting my bedroom with RF-shielding paint but I have heard that it can deteriorate quickly. Also, I am concerned that there will somehow be RF leaks into the room which will be bounced and re-bounced off the walls, and that the electrical outlets in the room, which I need to have, will produce EMF that will also be bouncing in there. Considering the great expense of either, I'm trying to decide whether to invest in a bed canopy - which will at least give me 8 hours of known protection - or painting my entire bedroom, which will give me considerably more protected space and breathing room (if it works). Does anyone have any information about this and/or recommendations? I have appreciated reading your posts since I
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Re: Deterioration of RF-shielding paint?
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Hi KK, I would recommend against using paint to shield against EMFs because it is rather 'permanent' and also very expensive. You might want to consider doing what I've just done in my bedroom: covering it in aluminium foil. Since I wanted to shield my room without spending a lot of money, I decided to go to Walmart and buy about 20 boxes of the heavy duty aluminium foil, which is much thicker than the standard stuff and comes in 18" width by 20 feet length for $1 per box!!! Later I also bought several boxes of the standard foil which is 12 inches x 50 feet. I tore out the carpet first and then I literally installed the foil as wallpaper! It was pretty easy. For paste, I added 1 cup of white sugar & 1 cup of cornstarch to about 8 cups of water, whisked it until dissolved; then heated while stirring until thick. This I 'painted' on to the alum foil before applying it to the walls (and floor). I used a squeegee to smooth wrinkles and help the paste to stick better. I used a staple gun here and there if it had a hard time sticking. When it came to the windows, I was going to use aluminium mesh insect screen (which I am still going to do), but instead I decided to just try using 3 Emergency blankets which I had on hand (which I believe is 'aluminized polypropylene'), as the Emergency Blankets are actually transparent (but dark). I wound up buying another 3 emergency blankets for the ceiling--because it is an accoustic/popcorn ceiling (unfortunately, asbestos containing material)--and would be hard to wallpaper! So I just ran several lines of string across the room, just below the ceiling to 'suspend' the emergency blankets. I used staples and masking tape to help keep it up and to overlap it with the alum foil on the walls--for electrical continuity. It has worked out quite well. I'll describe the whole thing in greater detail some time soon, for those who are interested. I have a wifi router in the apartment right next to my bedroom and one below, too; plus several rf transmitting antennae across from my windows ⚡$^( Before foiling around: >1000 mV/sq.meter. After foiling around: ~100-200 mV/sq. meter (it jumps around). I think I will be able to bring the rf down a bit more (<100 mV/sq.meter) by patching and improving continuity. The best part is that it cost me only about 40 dollars for a room that's ~13' long x 11' wide x 8' high: 20 boxes of heavy duty aluminium foil (18"x20') - $20 2 boxes reg aluminium foil (12"x50') $2 6 emergency blankets ($3 ea) $18 ---------------------------------------------------------------- = $40 NB: In the end, I found that the reg aluminium foil was preferable for the walls (easier to cut mainly) but the heavy duty is best for the floor. This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: ellen <[hidden email]> >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 10:49:38 PM >Subject: [eSens] Re: Deterioration of RF-shielding paint? > > >Hello, this is my first post. I live with 16 Smartmeters 10 feet away from my condominium and next-door and overhead residents with strong WiFi. I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I am considering painting my bedroom with RF-shielding paint but I have heard that it can deteriorate quickly. Also, I am concerned that there will somehow be RF leaks into the room which will be bounced and re-bounced off the walls, and that the electrical outlets in the room, which I need to have, will produce EMF that will also be bouncing in there. Considering the great expense of either, I'm trying to decide whether to invest in a bed canopy - which will at least give me 8 hours of known protection - or painting my entire bedroom, which will give me considerably more protected space and breathing room (if it works). Does anyone have any information about this and/or recommendations? I have appreciated reading your posts since I >signed into this list a few weeks ago. and all the information and experience you have. Thank you for being there. >Sincerely, KK > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Re: Deterioration of RF-shielding paint?
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I did my room mostly like yours, except for the windows I did use the aluminum mosquito mesh. The mosquito mesh is also conductive, and I overlapped it over the wall's aluminum to get one big, conductive unit. So any two points, including over the windows, has connectivity between them. The --- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote: > > > >  Hi KK, > > I would recommend against using paint to shield against EMFs because it is rather 'permanent' and also very expensive. You might want to consider doing what I've just done in my bedroom: covering it in aluminium foil. The emergency (space) blanket I experimented before didn't have conductivity on its surface. I have also tried the paint (yshield) but it makes me feel worse. I think because of the dispersed carbon in the paint it doesn't ground properly, even if it does reduce the RF after a few layers. Quite a few people on here have said it makes them feel worse. Or maybe it's some property of the carbon itself. As said before, my room is on ground level, so I didn't do that. Did do it initially, but it made it feel worse reflection wise. K > > Since I wanted to shield my room without spending a lot of money, I decided to go to Walmart and buy about 20 boxes of the heavy duty aluminium foil, which is much thicker than the standard stuff and comes in 18" width by 20 feet length for $1 per box!!! Later I also bought several boxes of the standard foil which is 12 inches x 50 feet. I tore out the carpet first and then I literally installed the foil as wallpaper! It was pretty easy. For paste, I added 1 cup of white sugar & 1 cup of cornstarch to about 8 cups of water, whisked it until dissolved; then heated while stirring until thick. This I 'painted' on to the alum foil before applying it to the walls (and floor). I used a squeegee to smooth wrinkles and help the paste to stick better. I used a staple gun here and there if it had a hard time sticking. > > When it came to the windows, I was going to use aluminium mesh insect screen (which I am still going to do), but instead I decided to just try using 3 Emergency blankets which I had on hand (which I believe is 'aluminized polypropylene'), as the Emergency Blankets are actually transparent (but dark). I wound up buying another 3 emergency blankets for the ceiling--because it is an accoustic/popcorn ceiling (unfortunately, asbestos containing material)--and would be hard to wallpaper! So I just ran several lines of string across the room, just below the ceiling to 'suspend' the emergency blankets. I used staples and masking tape to help keep it up and to overlap it with the alum foil on the walls--for electrical continuity. It has worked out quite well. > > I'll describe the whole thing in greater detail some time soon, for those who are interested. I have a wifi router in the apartment right next to my bedroom and one below, too; plus several rf transmitting antennae across from my windows â¡$^( > > Before foiling around: >1000 mV/sq.meter. > After foiling around: ~100-200 mV/sq. meter (it jumps around). > > I think I will be able to bring the rf down a bit more (<100 mV/sq.meter) by patching and improving continuity. > > The best part is that it cost me only about 40 dollars for a room that's ~13' long x 11' wide x 8' high: > > 20 boxes of heavy duty aluminium foil (18"x20') - $20 > 2 boxes reg aluminium foil (12"x50')                  $2 > 6 emergency blankets ($3 ea)                                   $18 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >                                                             = $40 > > NB: In the end, I found that the reg aluminium foil was preferable for the walls (easier to cut mainly) but the heavy duty is best for the floor. > > > >  This is the End...     >  > >  ~=~ >  HJR > _________________________________________________________ > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: ellen <tripleearthsign@...> > >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 10:49:38 PM > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Deterioration of RF-shielding paint? > > > > > >Hello, this is my first post. I live with 16 Smartmeters 10 feet away from my condominium and next-door and overhead residents with strong WiFi. I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I am considering painting my bedroom with RF-shielding paint but I have heard that it can deteriorate quickly. Also, I am concerned that there will somehow be RF leaks into the room which will be bounced and re-bounced off the walls, and that the electrical outlets in the room, which I need to have, will produce EMF that will also be bouncing in there. Considering the great expense of either, I'm trying to decide whether to invest in a bed canopy - which will at least give me 8 hours of known protection - or painting my entire bedroom, which will give me considerably more protected space and breathing room (if it works).   Does anyone have any information about this and/or recommendations? I have appreciated reading your posts since I > >signed into this list a few weeks ago. and all the information and experience you have. Thank you for being there. > >Sincerely,  KK > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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The emergency (space) blanket I experimented before didn't have conductivity on its surface. Only 1 side is conductive; the other side is polyproylene or some other type of plastic. But it seems that not all Emergency Blankets are made the same. This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 1:45:00 PM >Subject: [eSens] Re: Deterioration of RF-shielding paint? > > >Hi > >I did my room mostly like yours, except for the windows I did use the aluminum mosquito mesh. The mosquito mesh is also conductive, and I overlapped it over the wall's aluminum to get one big, conductive unit. So any two points, including over the windows, has connectivity between them. The > >--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote: >> >> >> >>  Hi KK, >> >> I would recommend against using paint to shield against EMFs because it is rather 'permanent' and also very expensive. You might want to consider doing what I've just done in my bedroom: covering it in aluminium foil. The emergency (space) blanket I experimented before didn't have conductivity on its surface. > >I have also tried the paint (yshield) but it makes me feel worse. I think because of the dispersed carbon in the paint it doesn't ground properly, even if it does reduce the RF after a few layers. Quite a few people on here have said it makes them feel worse. Or maybe it's some property of the carbon itself. > >As said before, my room is on ground level, so I didn't do that. Did do it initially, but it made it feel worse reflection wise. > >K >> >> Since I wanted to shield my room without spending a lot of money, I decided to go to Walmart and buy about 20 boxes of the heavy duty aluminium foil, which is much thicker than the standard stuff and comes in 18" width by 20 feet length for $1 per box!!! Later I also bought several boxes of the standard foil which is 12 inches x 50 feet. I tore out the carpet first and then I literally installed the foil as wallpaper! It was pretty easy. For paste, I added 1 cup of white sugar & 1 cup of cornstarch to about 8 cups of water, whisked it until dissolved; then heated while stirring until thick. This I 'painted' on to the alum foil before applying it to the walls (and floor). I used a squeegee to smooth wrinkles and help the paste to stick better. I used a staple gun here and there if it had a hard time sticking. >> >> When it came to the windows, I was going to use aluminium mesh insect screen (which I am still going to do), but instead I decided to just try using 3 Emergency blankets which I had on hand (which I believe is 'aluminized polypropylene'), as the Emergency Blankets are actually transparent (but dark). I wound up buying another 3 emergency blankets for the ceiling--because it is an accoustic/popcorn ceiling (unfortunately, asbestos containing material)--and would be hard to wallpaper! So I just ran several lines of string across the room, just below the ceiling to 'suspend' the emergency blankets. I used staples and masking tape to help keep it up and to overlap it with the alum foil on the walls--for electrical continuity. It has worked out quite well. >> >> I'll describe the whole thing in greater detail some time soon, for those who are interested. I have a wifi router in the apartment right next to my bedroom and one below, too; plus several rf transmitting antennae across from my windows ⚡$^( >> >> Before foiling around: >1000 mV/sq.meter. >> After foiling around: ~100-200 mV/sq. meter (it jumps around). >> >> I think I will be able to bring the rf down a bit more (<100 mV/sq.meter) by patching and improving continuity. >> >> The best part is that it cost me only about 40 dollars for a room that's ~13' long x 11' wide x 8' high: >> >> 20 boxes of heavy duty aluminium foil (18"x20') - $20 >> 2 boxes reg aluminium foil (12"x50')                  $2 >> 6 emergency blankets ($3 ea)                                   $18 >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>                                                             = $40 >> >> NB: In the end, I found that the reg aluminium foil was preferable for the walls (easier to cut mainly) but the heavy duty is best for the floor. >> >> >> >>  This is the End...     >>  >> >>  ~=~ >>  HJR >> _________________________________________________________ >> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: ellen <tripleearthsign@...> >> >To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> >Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 10:49:38 PM >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Deterioration of RF-shielding paint? >> > >> > >> >Hello, this is my first post. I live with 16 Smartmeters 10 feet away from my condominium and next-door and overhead residents with strong WiFi. I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I am considering painting my bedroom with RF-shielding paint but I have heard that it can deteriorate quickly. Also, I am concerned that there will somehow be RF leaks into the room which will be bounced and re-bounced off the walls, and that the electrical outlets in the room, which I need to have, will produce EMF that will also be bouncing in there. Considering the great expense of either, I'm trying to decide whether to invest in a bed canopy - which will at least give me 8 hours of known protection - or painting my entire bedroom, which will give me considerably more protected space and breathing room (if it works).   Does anyone have any information about this and/or recommendations? I have >> >signed into this list a few weeks ago. and all the information and experience you have. Thank you for being there. >> >Sincerely,  KK >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! 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