In a message dated 8/30/2008 10:52:12 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: There's not much of a focusing effect except at wavelengths shorter than the size of the dish, and the focal point is in front, not under. I really don't expect effects with the dish unplugged, but given how wrong scientists have been I won't say it's impossible. PUK replies - lets face it its metal, designed to capture waves its bound to be taking in all sorts of frquencies if down the wire and leaky feeder stuff where ever it is routed. I have a terrible problem with a man over the road who by investigation its a no brainer that his sky box is emitting crap into both my elec supply and telecoms as a ES this gives me very bad vibes for 6 hrs a day until hey presto his lights go out at 9pm then the signal which I pick up using an AM radio at 1600khz goes at the same time - he wont play ball which is messing with my body and my head ! PUK [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Well the one good thing about this mess is that I will be able to ...
eventually... remove both dish antenanna's from the house. So I consider myself lucky. However right now my ears ring and I sleep like crap in the room with the dish on it. So life sucks right now. I actually looking at sleeping in the garage. One dish has a live signal coming from it and the other is an inactive dish tv dish. I have measured relative radio signals with zapchecker. Can't check actual frequencies or power. Zapchecker measures relative frequencies from 0-5khz. (No affiliation, measured the widest ranged of frequencies I could afford to get). Once the dishes are gone I suppose I'll find out what the neighbors have as far wireless or phones. But... the nice thing is that I will be able to measure relative rf after the dishes are removed. So I can tell folks roughly what percentage the signals are reduced by. I hope they are reduced a lot (like 80%). We'll see. I don't often have a binary situation like this where I can do before and after measurements. I'd love to have real rf measuring equipment but I'm too sick to afford it. Believe it or not my main problem is MCS so that is what I check for the most. ES is secondary for me but wow it can kick my butt too. Thanks, Alan --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/30/2008 10:52:12 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, > wbruno@... writes: > > There's not much of a focusing effect except at wavelengths > shorter than the size of the dish, and the focal point is in > front, not under. > > I really don't expect effects with the dish unplugged, but given > how wrong scientists have been I won't say it's impossible. > > > > > PUK replies - lets face it its metal, designed to capture waves its > be taking in all sorts of frquencies if down the wire and leaky feeder stuff > where ever it is routed. I have a terrible problem with a man over the road > who by investigation its a no brainer that his sky box is emitting crap into > both my elec supply and telecoms as a ES this gives me very bad vibes for 6 > hrs a day until hey presto his lights go out at 9pm then the signal which I > pick up using an AM radio at 1600khz goes at the same time - he wont play ball > which is messing with my body and my head ! > > PUK > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Your neighbor may have compact fluorescents as well, which
would explain the dirty power until lights out. But it could be other stuff too... computers come to mind; even the power supply on his TV... Bill On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 4:31 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > > In a message dated 8/30/2008 10:52:12 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, > [hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com> writes: > > There's not much of a focusing effect except at wavelengths > shorter than the size of the dish, and the focal point is in > front, not under. > > I really don't expect effects with the dish unplugged, but given > how wrong scientists have been I won't say it's impossible. > > PUK replies - lets face it its metal, designed to capture waves its bound > to > be taking in all sorts of frquencies if down the wire and leaky feeder > stuff > where ever it is routed. I have a terrible problem with a man over the road > > who by investigation its a no brainer that his sky box is emitting crap > into > both my elec supply and telecoms as a ES this gives me very bad vibes for 6 > > hrs a day until hey presto his lights go out at 9pm then the signal which I > > pick up using an AM radio at 1600khz goes at the same time - he wont play > ball > which is messing with my body and my head ! > > PUK > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 9/1/2008 3:05:35 A.M. GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: I've been subjected to chemical pollution as stuff is put through holes that have been bored through the adjoining walls into my home from neighbours. The cat spends most of her time outside now. PUK replies - sounds like damp proofing of wall ! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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EMF is reasonable. Less than 0 - .5 almost everywhere in the room
including near electrical sources. It's rf. My meter goes beserk. I'm observing that there is lot's of "bleed through" of radio signals from a satellite dish. I'm actually measuring it with low end equipment. When they are gone we'll see what the levels are. I've done some muscle testing and I'm going to up my levels of thiamine and see if that helps. My ears almost always ring anyway. I'm just used to it. I got exposed to diazinon 5 years got really really sick for several years. I have MCS (was very severe) I'm a lot better but I still can't seem to escape nasty crap no matter how I try. My immune system is like a box of chocolates... You never know what you're gonna get... Thanks, Alan --- In [hidden email], "maureenan" <maureen.norman@...> wrote: > > I'm the same much of the time some times worse > than others. An ear aid, masker, helps me as the > tinnitus just builds up. At times the sound is hypnotic > it sends me to sleep and I can't keep awake. > > Have you checked the levels of EMF? because > the ringing in my ears is always bad when this is > at its worst. I hope in your case it's just the dishes > and you're able to stop it. > > I've been subjected to chemical pollution as stuff is put > through holes that have been bored through the > adjoining walls into my home from neighbours. The cat > spends most of her time outside now. > > One thing the fumes has done is to take my voice. I > can't sing any more, it just becomes a croak. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: abailey63 > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:58 PM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Anyone have experience with flectron > > > Well the one good thing about this mess is that I will be able to ... > eventually... remove both dish antenanna's from the house. So I > consider myself lucky. However right now my ears ring and I sleep like > crap in the room with the dish on it. So life sucks right now. I > actually looking at sleeping in the garage. > > One dish has a live signal coming from it and the other is an inactive > dish tv dish. I have measured relative radio signals with zapchecker. > Can't check actual frequencies or power. Zapchecker measures relative > frequencies from 0-5khz. (No affiliation, measured the widest ranged > of frequencies I could afford to get). Once the dishes are gone I > suppose I'll find out what the neighbors have as far wireless or > > But... the nice thing is that I will be able to measure relative rf > after the dishes are removed. So I can tell folks roughly what > percentage the signals are reduced by. I hope they are reduced a lot > (like 80%). We'll see. I don't often have a binary situation like this > where I can do before and after measurements. I'd love to have real rf > measuring equipment but I'm too sick to afford it. > > Believe it or not my main problem is MCS so that is what I check for > the most. ES is secondary for me but wow it can kick my butt too. > > Thanks, Alan > > --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/30/2008 10:52:12 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, > > wbruno@ writes: > > > > There's not much of a focusing effect except at wavelengths > > shorter than the size of the dish, and the focal point is in > > front, not under. > > > > I really don't expect effects with the dish unplugged, but given > > how wrong scientists have been I won't say it's impossible. > > > > > > > > > > PUK replies - lets face it its metal, designed to capture waves its > bound to > > be taking in all sorts of frquencies if down the wire and leaky > feeder stuff > > where ever it is routed. I have a terrible problem with a man over > the road > > who by investigation its a no brainer that his sky box is emitting > crap into > > both my elec supply and telecoms as a ES this gives me very bad > vibes for 6 > > hrs a day until hey presto his lights go out at 9pm then the signal > which I > > pick up using an AM radio at 1600khz goes at the same time - he > wont play ball > > which is messing with my body and my head ! > > > > PUK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Thanks for the info. I take 4-6000 mg/day of B12 sublingually with
folic acid. Not familiar with Calcium Pantothenate. I wonder if the Pantothenate is B5, pantothenic acid. I generally don't do great with Calcium. not sure why. Only know that Calcium/Magnesium balance is very critical and people with MCS are usually deficient/can't process Magnesium. I'll check it out though. I muscle tested very strong for Thiamine though. I don't usually test that strongly for anything. Thanks, Alan --- In [hidden email], "maureenan" <maureen.norman@...> wrote: > > Years ago when I had massive problems of a different > kind around me at one point I became tired all of the > time, really deadly tired and my spine felt weak, I felt > like I had flu but didn't. At the time I was eating several > large Mars bars a day, it was as if my body needed the > additional energy because that was what I wanted. > > I remembered a friend of years before who had MS > telling me of her vitamin B12 injections and her telling > me that is what they gave the concentration camp > victims to help build them up. Well, I didn't feel much > different to them in many ways so I bought vitamine > B12 and Calcium Pantothenate 500mg and they did > help. It's maybe something you could try now to build > up your immune system. > > Maureen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: abailey63 > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:36 AM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Anyone have experience with flectron > > > EMF is reasonable. Less than 0 - .5 almost everywhere in the room > including near electrical sources. It's rf. My meter goes beserk. I'm > observing that there is lot's of "bleed through" of radio signals from > a satellite dish. I'm actually measuring it with low end equipment. > When they are gone we'll see what the levels are. > > I've done some muscle testing and I'm going to up my levels of > thiamine and see if that helps. My ears almost always ring anyway. I'm > just used to it. > > I got exposed to diazinon 5 years got really really sick for several > years. I have MCS (was very severe) I'm a lot better but I still can't > seem to escape nasty crap no matter how I try. My immune system is > like a box of chocolates... You never know what you're gonna get... > > Thanks, Alan > > --- In [hidden email], "maureenan" <maureen.norman@> wrote: > > > > I'm the same much of the time some times worse > > than others. An ear aid, masker, helps me as the > > tinnitus just builds up. At times the sound is hypnotic > > it sends me to sleep and I can't keep awake. > > > > Have you checked the levels of EMF? because > > the ringing in my ears is always bad when this is > > at its worst. I hope in your case it's just the dishes > > and you're able to stop it. > > > > I've been subjected to chemical pollution as stuff is put > > through holes that have been bored through the > > adjoining walls into my home from neighbours. The cat > > spends most of her time outside now. > > > > One thing the fumes has done is to take my voice. I > > can't sing any more, it just becomes a croak. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: abailey63 > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:58 PM > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Anyone have experience with flectron > shielding fabric/satelli... > > > > > > Well the one good thing about this mess is that I will be able > > eventually... remove both dish antenanna's from the house. So I > > consider myself lucky. However right now my ears ring and I sleep like > > crap in the room with the dish on it. So life sucks right now. I > > actually looking at sleeping in the garage. > > > > One dish has a live signal coming from it and the other is an inactive > > dish tv dish. I have measured relative radio signals with zapchecker. > > Can't check actual frequencies or power. Zapchecker measures relative > > frequencies from 0-5khz. (No affiliation, measured the widest ranged > > of frequencies I could afford to get). Once the dishes are gone I > > suppose I'll find out what the neighbors have as far wireless or > phones. > > > > But... the nice thing is that I will be able to measure relative rf > > after the dishes are removed. So I can tell folks roughly what > > percentage the signals are reduced by. I hope they are reduced a lot > > (like 80%). We'll see. I don't often have a binary situation like this > > where I can do before and after measurements. I'd love to have real rf > > measuring equipment but I'm too sick to afford it. > > > > Believe it or not my main problem is MCS so that is what I check for > > the most. ES is secondary for me but wow it can kick my butt too. > > > > Thanks, Alan > > > > --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/30/2008 10:52:12 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, > > > wbruno@ writes: > > > > > > There's not much of a focusing effect except at wavelengths > > > shorter than the size of the dish, and the focal point is in > > > front, not under. > > > > > > I really don't expect effects with the dish unplugged, but given > > > how wrong scientists have been I won't say it's impossible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PUK replies - lets face it its metal, designed to capture > > bound to > > > be taking in all sorts of frquencies if down the wire and leaky > > feeder stuff > > > where ever it is routed. I have a terrible problem with a man over > > the road > > > who by investigation its a no brainer that his sky box is emitting > > crap into > > > both my elec supply and telecoms as a ES this gives me very bad > > vibes for 6 > > > hrs a day until hey presto his lights go out at 9pm then the > > which I > > > pick up using an AM radio at 1600khz goes at the same time - he > > wont play ball > > > which is messing with my body and my head ! > > > > > > PUK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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