RF from cable/phone line polluting whole house; what to do?

Hi people,

I discovered yesterday that there's some ugly RF coming from both the television cable and/or the phone line (using the AM radio).  It would be around AM 130 (on the Radio Shack AM radio that Richard Conrad suggests using; it's range shows 53 to 170 and beside that it says "AMx10 kHz", so I guess that would be around 1300 kHz?).

There is a bundled cable that goes across the far end of our (and some of our neighbor's) backyard(s).  It includes both the television cable/high speed internet line and the phone line.  They both leave this larger bundled cable in the form of two black insulated lines that are attached to small grey boxes, on the brick wall of the house; these boxes are very close toboth my and my mother's bedrooms.

I'm certain it's the source of the RF; the radio has a very loud, screeching/metallic humming noise standing under these lines, as well as under the larger bundled cable near the back of the backyard, and where some of the television cables converge in our basement.

Unfortunately, it seems to pollute nearly the whole house.

The radio is loud through pretty much my whole room, even in the air, same with both my parents rooms, in the bathroom, in the kitchen, down in the basement...of course the signal is on the ethernet cable for the internet, soit comes through the computers, and the phones (the phones are corded).

It seems that this RF pollutes the wiring, too; it can be heard at the fusebox, at lamps, even at the stove and fridge in the kitchen, in the walls, at outlets...

We have aluminum backed insulation in the walls, is this a bad thing in this case?

It seems to be in a fairly narrow range on the radio, around 1300 kHz and around 700 kHz; otherwise I can't seem to pick it up.

I'm kind of stuck for ideas of what to do, here.

Short of canceling both the phone and the internet (unlikely, as I need both), what can be done? I couldn't care less about cable television, personally, it's bundled with our internet (Roger's Cable).  But as I said, I need the 'net for research, and the phone to, well, phone people with!

Is some kind of filter an option?

Running a grounding cable along all the TV/Phone cables, inside and outsidethe house (good luck!), then wrapping it all in foil, and running the grounding cable out of a window to a grounding rod? (Can you even ground RF in this frequency like that? Clearly I don't know much about it.)

Any suggestions would be helpful!

Thanks a ton,

R.




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Hi R, are you sure its not a nasty Plasma TV or similar, you need to do  
more detective work
 
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Hi people,

I discovered yesterday that there's some ugly RF coming from both the
television cable and/or the phone line (using the AM radio). It would be
around AM 130 (on the Radio Shack AM radio that Richard Conrad suggests using;
it's range shows 53 to 170 and beside that it says "AMx10 kHz", so I guess
that would be around 1300 kHz?).

There is a bundled cable that goes across the far end of our (and some of
our neighbor's) backyard(s). It includes both the television cable/high  
speed internet line and the phone line. They both leave this larger bundled
cable in the form of two black insulated lines that are attached to small
grey boxes, on the brick wall of the house; these boxes are very close to
both my and my mother's bedrooms.

I'm certain it's the source of the RF; the radio has a very loud,
screeching/metallic humming noise standing under these lines, as well as under the
larger bundled cable near the back of the backyard, and where some of the
television cables converge in our basement.

Unfortunately, it seems to pollute nearly the whole house.

The radio is loud through pretty much my whole room, even in the air, same
with both my parents rooms, in the bathroom, in the kitchen, down in the
basement...of course the signal is on the ethernet cable for the internet,  
so it comes through the computers, and the phones (the phones are corded).

It seems that this RF pollutes the wiring, too; it can be heard at the
fusebox, at lamps, even at the stove and fridge in the kitchen, in the walls,
at outlets...

We have aluminum backed insulation in the walls, is this a bad thing in
this case?

It seems to be in a fairly narrow range on the radio, around 1300 kHz and
around 700 kHz; otherwise I can't seem to pick it up.

I'm kind of stuck for ideas of what to do, here.

Short of canceling both the phone and the internet (unlikely, as I need
both), what can be done? I couldn't care less about cable television,  
personally, it's bundled with our internet (Roger's Cable). But as I said, I need
the 'net for research, and the phone to, well, phone people with!

Is some kind of filter an option?

Running a grounding cable along all the TV/Phone cables, inside and
outside the house (good luck!), then wrapping it all in foil, and running the
grounding cable out of a window to a grounding rod? (Can you even ground RF in
this frequency like that? Clearly I don't know much about it.)

Any suggestions would be helpful!

Thanks a ton,

R.

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Hello,

R is right.

those cables can emit nasty *dirty air*.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton


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Subject: Re: [eSens] RF from cable/phone line polluting whole house; what to do?


Hi R, are you sure its not a nasty Plasma TV or similar, you need to do
more detective work

puk


In a message dated 07/07/2010 13:51:45 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:




Hi people,

I discovered yesterday that there's some ugly RF coming from both the
television cable and/or the phone line (using the AM radio). It would be
around AM 130 (on the Radio Shack AM radio that Richard Conrad suggests using;
it's range shows 53 to 170 and beside that it says "AMx10 kHz", so I guess
that would be around 1300 kHz?).

There is a bundled cable that goes across the far end of our (and some of
our neighbor's) backyard(s). It includes both the television cable/high
speed internet line and the phone line. They both leave this larger bundled
cable in the form of two black insulated lines that are attached to small
grey boxes, on the brick wall of the house; these boxes are very close to
both my and my mother's bedrooms.

I'm certain it's the source of the RF; the radio has a very loud,
screeching/metallic humming noise standing under these lines, as well as under the
larger bundled cable near the back of the backyard, and where some of the
television cables converge in our basement.

Unfortunately, it seems to pollute nearly the whole house.

The radio is loud through pretty much my whole room, even in the air, same
with both my parents rooms, in the bathroom, in the kitchen, down in the
basement...of course the signal is on the ethernet cable for the internet,
so it comes through the computers, and the phones (the phones are corded).

It seems that this RF pollutes the wiring, too; it can be heard at the
fusebox, at lamps, even at the stove and fridge in the kitchen, in the walls,
at outlets...

We have aluminum backed insulation in the walls, is this a bad thing in
this case?

It seems to be in a fairly narrow range on the radio, around 1300 kHz and
around 700 kHz; otherwise I can't seem to pick it up.

I'm kind of stuck for ideas of what to do, here.

Short of canceling both the phone and the internet (unlikely, as I need
both), what can be done? I couldn't care less about cable television,
personally, it's bundled with our internet (Roger's Cable). But as I said, I need
the 'net for research, and the phone to, well, phone people with!

Is some kind of filter an option?

Running a grounding cable along all the TV/Phone cables, inside and
outside the house (good luck!), then wrapping it all in foil, and running the
grounding cable out of a window to a grounding rod? (Can you even ground RF in
this frequency like that? Clearly I don't know much about it.)

Any suggestions would be helpful!

Thanks a ton,

R.

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Hi, both of you.

Paul, I actually had thought "plasma TV" at first, after reading about the whole neighbor's polluting plasma TV on the list; but I have checked the noise with the radio even late at night and early in the morning, and though it's somewhat diminished at night, it's still there - unless that means that someone is running a plasma TV almost 24 hours a day!

Charles, yes, I think that the problem is both the emissions from the cables themselves, and the issue of conductivity, because other things in the house are picking up the signal, too.

Thanks for both of your thoughts.

Bill, if you have the chance to follow up on the questions I asked you yesterday, that would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

R.

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Hello,



R is right.



those cables can emit nasty *dirty air*.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton



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From: [hidden email]

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:24 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] RF from cable/phone line polluting whole house; whatto do?



Hi R, are you sure its not a nasty Plasma TV or similar, you need to do  

more detective work

   

puk

   

   

In a message dated 07/07/2010 13:51:45 GMT Daylight Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



Hi people,



I discovered yesterday that there's some ugly RF coming from both the

television cable and/or the phone line (using the AM radio). It would be

around AM 130 (on the Radio Shack AM radio that Richard Conrad suggests using;

it's range shows 53 to 170 and beside that it says "AMx10 kHz", so I guess

that would be around 1300 kHz?).



There is a bundled cable that goes across the far end of our (and some of

our neighbor's) backyard(s). It includes both the television cable/high  

speed internet line and the phone line. They both leave this larger bundled

cable in the form of two black insulated lines that are attached to small

grey boxes, on the brick wall of the house; these boxes are very close to

both my and my mother's bedrooms.



I'm certain it's the source of the RF; the radio has a very loud,

screeching/metallic humming noise standing under these lines, as well asunder the

larger bundled cable near the back of the backyard, and where some of the

television cables converge in our basement.



Unfortunately, it seems to pollute nearly the whole house.



The radio is loud through pretty much my whole room, even in the air, same

with both my parents rooms, in the bathroom, in the kitchen, down in the

basement...of course the signal is on the ethernet cable for the internet,  

so it comes through the computers, and the phones (the phones are corded).



It seems that this RF pollutes the wiring, too; it can be heard at the

fusebox, at lamps, even at the stove and fridge in the kitchen, in the walls,

at outlets...



We have aluminum backed insulation in the walls, is this a bad thing in

this case?



It seems to be in a fairly narrow range on the radio, around 1300 kHz and

around 700 kHz; otherwise I can't seem to pick it up.



I'm kind of stuck for ideas of what to do, here.



Short of canceling both the phone and the internet (unlikely, as I need

both), what can be done? I couldn't care less about cable television,  

personally, it's bundled with our internet (Roger's Cable). But as I said, I need

the 'net for research, and the phone to, well, phone people with!



Is some kind of filter an option?



Running a grounding cable along all the TV/Phone cables, inside and

outside the house (good luck!), then wrapping it all in foil, and running the

grounding cable out of a window to a grounding rod? (Can you even groundRF in

this frequency like that? Clearly I don't know much about it.)



Any suggestions would be helpful!



Thanks a ton,



R.



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