Has anyone also considered or investigated the connection between shopping and
formaldehyde exposure? There are certain shops (often containing large amounts of new fabric, foam etc.) that I can't stay in for too long without feeling completely drained. I have always suspected that this relates to a high concentration of formaldehyde (in fabric, foam, MDF/fibreboard etc.). I wonder if perhaps my perceived reaction to formaldehyde is either aggravated or intensified by EMF's and EMR associated with high level fluorescent lighting and whatever other electrical and electronic appliances are used in the store. It appears from many discussions on both of these lists that there is a possible link between environmental poisoning (e.g. mercury) and symptoms of illnesses such as Electrical Sensitivity, which also often seems to occur with MCS and other 'modern' illnesses. Perhaps formaldehyde is another part of the equation? Lachlan -----Original Message----- From: chantal [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2004 4:42 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [metals] fluorescent lights ------------------ I've never noticed electrical sensitivity any other time so maybe it was the combination of all the toxic stuff in stores plus just overdoing it.I hate shopping and living on an island makes it hard to just do little shopping errands .Try to do as much as I can in one day, and i've done this befor and not had this happen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [metals] fluorescent lights > ------------------ > > > > I used to feel terrible when shopping. Every time I shopped at a brand new > > > Wild Oats store, I felt terrible. I finally figured out that it was the > > > fluorescent lights, they contain mercury. > > Feeling terrible under fluorescent lights is one of the symptoms of > electrical sensitivity, which seems to be one of the many symptoms > of mercury poisoning. These lights emit a lot of electromagnetic > radiation and also the ballasts in the fixtures emit a lot high > frequency noise, which can cause people problems. Although, > if these are causing you problems, then I'd think you'd also have > problems using a computer (even the flat screen LCD monitors > have a fluorescent backlight). Also around dimmer switches. > > I used to have a terrible time underneath fluorescent lights in > stores, but I've found that EMF protection devices are great > at eliminating this problem. Now when under these lights in > the store, I feel fine. No more need to rush to get out of > the store... > > If you've got the money, I recommend trying a Springlife > polarizer pendant when shopping, and see if you notice the > difference: > > http://products.bioharmonics.com/polarizers/polmodels.htm > > The smallest one should be adequate, although the bigger > pendant is stronger. I don't wear these around my neck though -- > I just stick them in my pants pocket. I'd also think they'd > work fine in a purse as well. > > Marc > > _______________________________________________ > [hidden email] > --------------------------------------------------- > Metals & Human Health Discussion Forum Sponsored by > CFS Nutrition "Feed Your Health"TM > http://www.cfsn.com > -------------------- > [metals] can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html _______________________________________________ [hidden email] --------------------------------------------------- Metals & Human Health Discussion Forum Sponsored by CFS Nutrition "Feed Your Health"TM http://www.cfsn.com -------------------- [metals] can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html |
Hello Lachlan,
no, I do not think so. Although Formaldehyde is a poisonous gas, it works directly on the throat. The feeling of drained comes in most cases from exposure to magnetic alternating fields, as they are quite high with fluorescent lights. There seems to be something disturbing in the light spectrum of those lamps also, as it is with halogen lamps. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lachlan Mudge" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 03:14 Subject: [eSens] RE: [metals] fluorescent lights > Has anyone also considered or investigated the connection between shopping and > formaldehyde exposure? There are certain shops (often containing large amounts > of new fabric, foam etc.) that I can't stay in for too long without feeling > completely drained. I have always suspected that this relates to a high > concentration of formaldehyde (in fabric, foam, MDF/fibreboard etc.). I wonder > if perhaps my perceived reaction to formaldehyde is either aggravated or > intensified by EMF's and EMR associated with high level fluorescent lighting > and whatever other electrical and electronic appliances are used in the store. > It appears from many discussions on both of these lists that there is a > possible link between environmental poisoning (e.g. mercury) and symptoms of > illnesses such as Electrical Sensitivity, which also often seems to occur with > MCS and other 'modern' illnesses. Perhaps formaldehyde is another part of the > equation? > > Lachlan > > -----Original Message----- > From: chantal [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2004 4:42 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [metals] fluorescent lights > > ------------------ > > I've never noticed electrical sensitivity any other time so maybe it was > combination of all the toxic stuff in stores plus just overdoing it.I hate > shopping and living on an island makes it hard to just do little shopping > errands .Try to do as much as I can in one day, and i've done this befor and > not had this happen. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: [metals] fluorescent lights > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > I used to feel terrible when shopping. Every time I shopped at a > new > > > > Wild Oats store, I felt terrible. I finally figured out that it was > the > > > > fluorescent lights, they contain mercury. > > > > Feeling terrible under fluorescent lights is one of the symptoms of > > electrical sensitivity, which seems to be one of the many symptoms > > of mercury poisoning. These lights emit a lot of electromagnetic > > radiation and also the ballasts in the fixtures emit a lot high > > frequency noise, which can cause people problems. Although, > > if these are causing you problems, then I'd think you'd also have > > problems using a computer (even the flat screen LCD monitors > > have a fluorescent backlight). Also around dimmer switches. > > > > I used to have a terrible time underneath fluorescent lights in > > stores, but I've found that EMF protection devices are great > > at eliminating this problem. Now when under these lights in > > the store, I feel fine. No more need to rush to get out of > > the store... > > > > If you've got the money, I recommend trying a Springlife > > polarizer pendant when shopping, and see if you notice the > > difference: > > > > http://products.bioharmonics.com/polarizers/polmodels.htm > > > > The smallest one should be adequate, although the bigger > > pendant is stronger. I don't wear these around my neck though -- > > I just stick them in my pants pocket. I'd also think they'd > > work fine in a purse as well. > > > > Marc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [hidden email] > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Metals & Human Health Discussion Forum Sponsored by > > CFS Nutrition "Feed Your Health"TM > > http://www.cfsn.com > > -------------------- > > [metals] can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html > > > _______________________________________________ > [hidden email] > --------------------------------------------------- > Metals & Human Health Discussion Forum Sponsored by > CFS Nutrition "Feed Your Health"TM > http://www.cfsn.com > -------------------- > [metals] can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > |
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I have had chemical sensitivity for nearly 20 years and can say for sure
that ANY chemical exposure can result in a drop in energy - it depends upon the individual's constitution as to which chemicals and how much exposure as to the effects. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: charles [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, 3 May 2004 5:20 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] RE: [metals] fluorescent lights Hello Lachlan, no, I do not think so. Although Formaldehyde is a poisonous gas, it works directly on the throat. The feeling of drained comes in most cases from exposure to magnetic alternating fields, as they are quite high with fluorescent lights. There seems to be something disturbing in the light spectrum of those lamps also, as it is with halogen lamps. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lachlan Mudge" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 03:14 Subject: [eSens] RE: [metals] fluorescent lights > Has anyone also considered or investigated the connection between > shopping and > formaldehyde exposure? There are certain shops (often containing > large amounts > of new fabric, foam etc.) that I can't stay in for too long without feeling > completely drained. I have always suspected that this relates to a > high concentration of formaldehyde (in fabric, foam, MDF/fibreboard > etc.). I wonder > if perhaps my perceived reaction to formaldehyde is either aggravated > or intensified by EMF's and EMR associated with high level fluorescent lighting > and whatever other electrical and electronic appliances are used in > the store. > It appears from many discussions on both of these lists that there is > a possible link between environmental poisoning (e.g. mercury) and > symptoms of > illnesses such as Electrical Sensitivity, which also often seems to > occur with > MCS and other 'modern' illnesses. Perhaps formaldehyde is another > part of the > equation? > > Lachlan > > -----Original Message----- > From: chantal [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2004 4:42 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [metals] fluorescent lights > > ------------------ > > I've never noticed electrical sensitivity any other time so maybe it > was > combination of all the toxic stuff in stores plus just overdoing it.I > hate shopping and living on an island makes it hard to just do little > shopping errands .Try to do as much as I can in one day, and i've done > this befor and > not had this happen. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: [metals] fluorescent lights > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > I used to feel terrible when shopping. Every time I shopped at a > new > > > > Wild Oats store, I felt terrible. I finally figured out that it > > > > was > the > > > > fluorescent lights, they contain mercury. > > > > Feeling terrible under fluorescent lights is one of the symptoms of > > electrical sensitivity, which seems to be one of the many symptoms > > of mercury poisoning. These lights emit a lot of electromagnetic > > radiation and also the ballasts in the fixtures emit a lot high > > frequency noise, which can cause people problems. Although, if > > these are causing you problems, then I'd think you'd also have > > problems using a computer (even the flat screen LCD monitors have a > > fluorescent backlight). Also around dimmer switches. > > > > I used to have a terrible time underneath fluorescent lights in > > stores, but I've found that EMF protection devices are great at > > eliminating this problem. Now when under these lights in the store, > > I feel fine. No more need to rush to get out of the store... > > > > If you've got the money, I recommend trying a Springlife polarizer > > pendant when shopping, and see if you notice the > > difference: > > > > http://products.bioharmonics.com/polarizers/polmodels.htm > > > > The smallest one should be adequate, although the bigger pendant is > > stronger. I don't wear these around my neck though -- I just stick > > them in my pants pocket. I'd also think they'd work fine in a purse > > as well. > > > > Marc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [hidden email] > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Metals & Human Health Discussion Forum Sponsored by > > CFS Nutrition "Feed Your Health"TM > > http://www.cfsn.com > > -------------------- > > [metals] can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html > > > _______________________________________________ > [hidden email] > --------------------------------------------------- > Metals & Human Health Discussion Forum Sponsored by > CFS Nutrition "Feed Your Health"TM > http://www.cfsn.com > -------------------- > [metals] can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links |
Hello Sarah,
of course you are quite right. Most persons with MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) react heavily to all kinds of chemicals. Most of them do not visit shops, let alone they come on the streets. A large number are outcastst of the society (most prople will not understand them) and they lay on bed. The unfortune fact is there, that they are also exposed to all kind of electromagnetic fields, which detoriates their condition further. MCS people are living in a *hell on earth*, literally. My former posting was addressed to Lachlan Mudge, who is electrosensitive, but does not have MCS, as far as I know. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 09:36 Subject: RE: [eSens] RE: [metals] fluorescent lights > I have had chemical sensitivity for nearly 20 years and can say for sure > that ANY chemical exposure can result in a drop in energy - it depends > upon the individual's constitution as to which chemicals and how much > exposure as to the effects. > > Sarah > > -----Original Message----- > From: charles [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Monday, 3 May 2004 5:20 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [eSens] RE: [metals] fluorescent lights > > > Hello Lachlan, > > no, I do not think so. > Although Formaldehyde is a poisonous gas, it works directly on the > throat. > > The feeling of drained comes in most cases from exposure to magnetic > alternating fields, as they are quite high with fluorescent lights. > There seems to be something disturbing in the light spectrum of those > lamps also, as it is with halogen lamps. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lachlan Mudge" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 03:14 > Subject: [eSens] RE: [metals] fluorescent lights > > > > Has anyone also considered or investigated the connection between > > shopping > and > > formaldehyde exposure? There are certain shops (often containing > > large > amounts > > of new fabric, foam etc.) that I can't stay in for too long without > feeling > > completely drained. I have always suspected that this relates to a > > high concentration of formaldehyde (in fabric, foam, MDF/fibreboard > > etc.). I > wonder > > if perhaps my perceived reaction to formaldehyde is either aggravated > > or intensified by EMF's and EMR associated with high level fluorescent > lighting > > and whatever other electrical and electronic appliances are used in > > the > store. > > It appears from many discussions on both of these lists that there is > > a possible link between environmental poisoning (e.g. mercury) and > > symptoms > of > > illnesses such as Electrical Sensitivity, which also often seems to > > occur > with > > MCS and other 'modern' illnesses. Perhaps formaldehyde is another > > part of > the > > equation? > > > > Lachlan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: chantal [mailto:[hidden email]] > > Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2004 4:42 AM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: [metals] fluorescent lights > > > > ------------------ > > > > I've never noticed electrical sensitivity any other time so maybe it > > was > the > > combination of all the toxic stuff in stores plus just overdoing it.I > > hate shopping and living on an island makes it hard to just do little > > shopping errands .Try to do as much as I can in one day, and i've done > > > this befor > and > > not had this happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:01 AM > > Subject: Re: [metals] fluorescent lights > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > I used to feel terrible when shopping. Every time I shopped at a > brand > > new > > > > > Wild Oats store, I felt terrible. I finally figured out that it > > > > > was > > the > > > > > fluorescent lights, they contain mercury. > > > > > > Feeling terrible under fluorescent lights is one of the symptoms of > > > electrical sensitivity, which seems to be one of the many symptoms > > > of mercury poisoning. These lights emit a lot of electromagnetic > > > radiation and also the ballasts in the fixtures emit a lot high > > > frequency noise, which can cause people problems. Although, if > > > these are causing you problems, then I'd think you'd also have > > > problems using a computer (even the flat screen LCD monitors have a > > > fluorescent backlight). Also around dimmer switches. > > > > > > I used to have a terrible time underneath fluorescent lights in > > > stores, but I've found that EMF protection devices are great at > > > eliminating this problem. Now when under these lights in the store, > > > > I feel fine. No more need to rush to get out of the store... > > > > > > If you've got the money, I recommend trying a Springlife polarizer > > > pendant when shopping, and see if you notice the > > > difference: > > > > > > http://products.bioharmonics.com/polarizers/polmodels.htm > > > > > > The smallest one should be adequate, although the bigger pendant is > > > stronger. I don't wear these around my neck though -- I just stick > > > them in my pants pocket. I'd also think they'd work fine in a purse > > > > as well. > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > [hidden email] > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Metals & Human Health Discussion Forum Sponsored by > > > CFS Nutrition "Feed Your Health"TM > > > http://www.cfsn.com > > > -------------------- > > > [metals] can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [hidden email] > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Metals & Human Health Discussion Forum Sponsored by > > CFS Nutrition "Feed Your Health"TM > > http://www.cfsn.com > > -------------------- > > [metals] can be joined by visiting http://www.cfsn.com/metlist.html > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > |
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