This reminds me of an experience I had some years ago with a protection
device. I don't know what they are currently called - am waiting to hear from someone who knows more. But first I would like to remind/inform people of the work of Prof Ted Litovitz (Catholic University, US) who found that different frequencies cancel each other out. Ie, ELF fields are annulled by RFR. I have discovered this for my self on several occasions, the most marked being when I was staying in a B&B in the UK a couple of years ago. On the first night I noticed there was a lot of security devices, smoke detectors, cordless phones etc, and I slept badly, very lightly and waking up every hour or two. On the second night I accidentally left the water heater on in the bathroom (each bathroom had its own mini-hot water service) and lo and behold I slept very well! The ELF field from the HWS cancelled the RFR from the RF devices. So in answer to what Lachlan says about his HWS, yes, if I'm in a house with such a system (and no smoke detectors or other RF stuff) then I also sleep better if it is turned off. Ditto the whole system. I quite often switch the electricity off at the mains before going to bed. Where I live now the HWS is gas, so its not a problem. Another thing to consider is the earth's EM field. If this is strong it can also be a problem, but only if one is in a house, near the ground, or especially in the country. This can be counteracted by just about anything. But getting back to this device I used to have. It was something that contained bits of granite that were embedded in resin and then encased in plastic. These bits of granite had been irradiated in order that their natural radiation (whatever that was) was amplified many times. This meant that the devices gave off a very high 'natural' frequency. I used in when I lived in a caravan next to a house - and found that the metal of the van picked up the fields from the house and magnified them. I was so ill during this time that I thought I wasn't going to make it. Then someone gave me this device, and again, I was saved. It worked like a dream - HOWEVER there was a slight catch, which relates closely to what Lachlan was saying about his irritation after using the Sringlife device. If I had this device 'switched on' during a night when the radiating devices in the house were off (electric radiators, laptop on charge, video recorder on etc) then I would wake up in the night feeling incredibly irritated, sometimes almost in a rage even, and also had bad nightmares. This was most usually the case. I have since got rid of the device, and find it easier to live away from ELF fields altogether. It would be interesting to know exactly how the Springlife devices work. By the way Marc, with the flower essences I have found that it is important to only use them when you're experiencing symptoms, otherwise they can easily 'prove' - the homeopathic term for a remedy actually doing the opposite of what it is supposed to do. Its complicated. However, having said that, I also acknowledge that not everyone finds these remedies effective. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Lachlan Mudge [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, 1 March 2004 1:09 PM To: '[hidden email]' Subject: RE: [eSens] Understanding vs Experiencing Hello All I'd first like to thank Marc for kindly sending me the springlife pendant through the mail, which I received last Thursday. I have worn it constantly since receiving it that morning. On the first day (Thursday) that I wore it at work, I felt noticeably better in my office - I didn't feel the same sort of lethargy by the end of the day that I have been feeling consistently for some time. The following (Friday) evening, I noticed that I was feeling significantly irritable, which caused me to get agitated if I had to sit still for a short length of time, though this irritation passed relatively quickly. This irritation was quite possibly a result of external factors in my life, though I have read that people report feelings of irritation within a short period of being exposed to these products, so I thought it was worth mentioning. I also had the first few good nights sleep I've had in a long time when wearing this pendant, though I must add that I also made a significant change to my sleeping environment at the same time, so this is another subjective aspect to my situation. I plan to send this pendant on to someone else on Esens, so once I remove any influence it might be having on my life, I should then be able to make a more objective assessment of it's influence. I will inform the group once I have done this, in case anyone is interested. Incidentally, the change to my sleeping environment involved turning off power to my electric water heater and unnecessary power circuits at night time, as the electricity meter-box and associated wiring is located on the outside of my bedroom wall (I sleep against the opposite wall, several metres from the meter-box). I also moved my AC electric alarm clock (which emanated a significant field - measured with an EMDEX Snap gauss-meter). The alarm clock was placed on a metal cabinet, which is also located as close as possible to the meter box. I originally thought that the metal cabinet would afford me some protection from electric fields emanating from wiring in the meter box, however now that I have a better understanding of electromagnetics, based on field theory, I fear that the metal cabinet could potentially transmit a small amount of radiation, originating from high frequency harmonics in my internal wiring or potentially from harmonics on their way from the DC inverter in my alarm clock, to my wiring system, via the neutral wire. I have not yet acquired a spectrum analyser to rule out any of these possibilities, so I am presently opting for a precautionary approach. Hopefully I'll have something of interest to report on the pendant in future Regards Lachlan -----Original Message----- From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, 27 February 2004 6:28 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] Understanding vs Experiencing > I think that your idea about exchanging the devices for test purposes > is good. I think that there won't be much problem with customs. I actually mailed two EMF devices to two list members, but I have not heard if they ever received them! > Listening to your recommendations, I would have bought a Quantum > product > to test it, but you also say that it won't work if the Quantum Byte didn't. > So I am in a doubt now which one to try? Please suggest. If the free software download of the Quantum Byte software has no effect on your computer use, then it's my opinion that none of the other Quantum Products will help either. The two other products which I consider to be the best are the Springlife Polarizers (http://bioharmonics.com) and the Earthcalm Resonator (http://earthcalm.com). These are the things I also sent out to the two other list members, so I'd be interested if they notice any differences in using them or not. Also, perhaps they'll be willing to mail them to you so that you can try them out for free. >how about crystals, etc. Crystals are an interesting topic. My wife has lately become interested in buying fancy crystals (quartz, etc.), just because she likes them. However, I quickly found that these were highly agitating to me, so I try to keep my distance from them. However, some may find benefits from them. One nice thing about crystals is that many cities have stores where they sell crystals. So for no cost, you could go to a store, pick up a crystal, and see if you feel anything. It shouldn't take any more than a minute to tell. > I read elsewhere that a special homeopathic remedy against ES I once tried the "Yarrow Special Formula" homeopathic remedy, but for me it didn't appear to do anything. Marc Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links |
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>If I had this device 'switched on' during a night
>when the radiating devices in the house were off then I would wake up in the >night feeling incredibly irritated, sometimes almost in a rage even, and >also had bad nightmares. There have been a few devices I've purchased over the years which I have had bad reactions to. By far the worst was the "Seed of Life" Sacred Geometry medallion: http://www.languageoflight.com/store.html Looking at this thing, it appears harmless enough. As is usually the case, I don't expect such a device to do anything. Especially when it supposedly works just because of it's geometric properties. And yet, within 5-10 minutes of putting this thing around my neck, I felt highly agitated, and also like I was having a panic attack and heart palpitations. For the next week or so, I tried experimenting with it by having it several feet away from me. The effect was reduced, however it was still very unpleasant. And it even left a lingering effect that took a week to go away. I eventually had to dispose of it in some public garbage can -- and even the drive to the garbage can was agitating! I had a similar reaction to a supplement called "Modifilan" (http://www.modifilan.com/). This is a supplement which was designed to detoxify radiation from the victims in Chernobyl. And I later learned that the agitation I was experiencing is a symptom of radiation detox. But still, I believe that there are safe ways to detox and unsafe ways. And that pendant and that supplement seemed to be very unsafe. Marc |
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I think its important to find out how these devices work. What do the
creators of, say, the Sacred Geometry medallion, say about WHY and HOW it works? So many devices are on the market, and discussed here, but I'm worried that no one seems interested in something so basic. If we don't understand how and why something works, how can we assess its value as a protective device? Ditto, of course, the human body. Bioelectromagnetics is a fairly new field - but one that will hopefully develop much further in the years to come. it supposedly works just because of it's geometric properties. What geometric properties?!!!! How could this affect the human being? I have not experienced radiation detox in a negative way - because I can't store it. However after I switch off the electricity at night I sometimes get an augmented buzzing sensation before everything calms down. Marc your trip to the rubbish bin amused me because with the device I had - although I didn't throw it away I stored it somewhere at work - out of sight - and then realised it had disappeared after a few years! sarah -----Original Message----- From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2004 2:34 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [eSens] Understanding AND Experiencing >If I had this device 'switched on' during a night >when the radiating devices in the house were off then I would wake up >in the night feeling incredibly irritated, sometimes almost in a rage >even, and also had bad nightmares. There have been a few devices I've purchased over the years which I have had bad reactions to. By far the worst was the "Seed of Life" Sacred Geometry medallion: http://www.languageoflight.com/store.html Looking at this thing, it appears harmless enough. As is usually the case, I don't expect such a device to do anything. Especially when it supposedly works just because of it's geometric properties. And yet, within 5-10 minutes of putting this thing around my neck, I felt highly agitated, and also like I was having a panic attack and heart palpitations. For the next week or so, I tried experimenting with it by having it several feet away from me. The effect was reduced, however it was still very unpleasant. And it even left a lingering effect that took a week to go away. I eventually had to dispose of it in some public garbage can -- and even the drive to the garbage can was agitating! I had a similar reaction to a supplement called "Modifilan" (http://www.modifilan.com/). This is a supplement which was designed to detoxify radiation from the victims in Chernobyl. And I later learned that the agitation I was experiencing is a symptom of radiation detox. But still, I believe that there are safe ways to detox and unsafe ways. And that pendant and that supplement seemed to be very unsafe. Marc Yahoo! Groups Links |
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>I think its important to find out how these devices work. What do the
>creators of, say, the Sacred Geometry medallion, say about WHY and HOW >it works? So many devices are on the market, and discussed here, but >I'm worried that no one seems interested in something so basic. I think the problem is that most of the people on the planet (including current scientists) are oblivious to the way things work in the universe. The makers of the medallion insist that it is the SHAPE of the medallion that makes it work. Yes, I realize that this sound ridiculous to most, but then do an Internet and Amazon.com search on "Sacred Geometry". On Google you get 75,000 matches. On Amazon there are dozens of books. So there are a LOT of people interested in this subject, just nobody on this list. Not even me, actually. The Earthcalm pendant (which is also very powerful, BTW), also lists as one of its 3 reasons for working as being Sacred Geometry. For a skeptic, it's much easier to just laugh and ridicule the idea that geometry could have any effect on someone's health. And yet, that's not a very scientific approach, now is it? Someone who is truly interested in a scientific approach should read some websites and books on Sacred Geometry, and they'd probably figure out how these devices work just from that alone. And they could try buying the device and establishing that it has some sort of effect on them if they need some motivation to learn something new. Also, they would probably notice that there are geometric healing things on the web (I recall a series of credit-card devices with shapes printed on them, but I never bought them). BTW, since I had such a huge reaction to this device, I emailed the manufacturer, and they said that my reaction was extremely rare (that's what they ALL say...), and was mostly likely a detox reaction. They suggested keeping it a certain distance from me and for only short periods of time, but they didn't seem to understand that I couldn't even keep it in the house! I also let my wife try it on -- she wore it for 2 hours, and noticed nothing. I also lent it to a coworker, who said she felt energized pretty quickly, but I guess she didn't like it well enough to want to keep it, because she returned it to me a few hours later (and a week later it was in the trash). By the way, I also have some old devices stored away at the opposite side of the building at my workplace. I don't think people can comprehend that I can't just store them at my desk, because they have an effect on me... Marc |
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it is not Sacred Geometry. It is just some geometry. Symbols. Special symbols. Just that. And they work. Mystery at work. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 16:42 Subject: RE: [eSens] Understanding AND Experiencing > >I think its important to find out how these devices work. What do the > >creators of, say, the Sacred Geometry medallion, say about WHY and HOW > >it works? So many devices are on the market, and discussed here, but > >I'm worried that no one seems interested in something so basic. > > I think the problem is that most of the people on the planet (including > current scientists) are oblivious to the way things work in the universe. > The makers of the medallion insist that it is the SHAPE of the medallion > that makes it work. Yes, I realize that this sound ridiculous to most, > but then do an Internet and Amazon.com search on "Sacred Geometry". > On Google you get 75,000 matches. On Amazon there are dozens of books. > So there are a LOT of people interested in this subject, just nobody > on this list. Not even me, actually. The Earthcalm pendant (which > is also very powerful, BTW), also lists as one of its 3 reasons for > working as being Sacred Geometry. > > For a skeptic, it's much easier to just laugh and ridicule the > idea that geometry could have any effect on someone's health. > And yet, that's not a very scientific approach, now is it? > Someone who is truly interested in a scientific approach should > read some websites and books on Sacred Geometry, and they'd > probably figure out how these devices work just from that > alone. And they could try buying the device and establishing > that it has some sort of effect on them if they need some > motivation to learn something new. Also, they would probably > notice that there are geometric healing things on the web > (I recall a series of credit-card devices with shapes printed > on them, but I never bought them). > > BTW, since I had such a huge reaction to this device, I emailed > the manufacturer, and they said that my reaction was extremely > rare (that's what they ALL say...), and was mostly likely > a detox reaction. They suggested keeping it a certain distance > from me and for only short periods of time, but they didn't > seem to understand that I couldn't even keep it in the house! > > I also let my wife try it on -- she wore it for 2 hours, and > noticed nothing. I also lent it to a coworker, who said she > felt energized pretty quickly, but I guess she didn't like > it well enough to want to keep it, because she returned it > to me a few hours later (and a week later it was in the > trash). > > By the way, I also have some old devices stored away at the > opposite side of the building at my workplace. I don't > think people can comprehend that I can't just store them > at my desk, because they have an effect on me... > > Marc > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > |
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