RAIN

Solved another piece of the puzzle today when I read that phone masts increase their signal during rain and snow.

My symptoms are much worse during rain, certainly during snow.  Previously I attributed this to the arthritis.

Last night it rained heavily, today... OUCH.

I had the opposite experience.  We had a day of light rain all day,  
and I felt better than I have in couple of years.  Very few ES  
symptoms.  I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and MCS (23 yrs), so I  
never feel "well", but on this particular rainy day, I had more energy  
and strength than I've had in such a long time, I'd forgotten what it  
was like.  ES short-circuits my brain and keeps me in a dazed and  
confused, but that day I felt centered, focused, and connected to  my  
"self".  I felt much clearer,  and oddly protected from the EMF/RF.  
Maybe it had something to do with the constantly falling negative  
ions.  I feel especially terrible on sunny days.


On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:19 AM, egg_chips_and_beans wrote:

> Solved another piece of the puzzle today when I read that phone  
> masts increase their signal during rain and snow.
>
> My symptoms are much worse during rain, certainly during snow.  
> Previously I attributed this to the arthritis.
>
> Last night it rained heavily, today... OUCH.
>
>



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Hi Esther,

Do you get a rash from the sun? I do. I guess it's the sun's radiation. I have had MCS for about 20 years, as well. I enjoy the rain in the forest where I walk. Away from cell towers.
I hope you feel better soon.
Laurie


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I had the opposite experience.  We had a day of light rain all day, 
and I felt better than I have in couple of years.  Very few ES 
symptoms.  I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and MCS (23 yrs), so I 
never feel "well", but on this particular rainy day, I had more energy 
and strength than I've had in such a long time, I'd forgotten what it 
was like.  ES short-circuits my brain and keeps me in a dazed and 
confused, but that day I felt centered, focused, and connected to  my 
"self".  I felt much clearer,  and oddly protected from the EMF/RF. 
Maybe it had something to do with the constantly falling negative 
ions.  I feel especially terrible on sunny days.


On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:19 AM, egg_chips_and_beans wrote:

> Solved another piece of the puzzle today when I read that phone 
> masts increase their signal during rain and snow.
>
> My symptoms are much worse during rain, certainly during snow. 
> Previously I attributed this to the arthritis.
>
> Last night it rained heavily, today... OUCH.
>
>



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we are obviously dealing with a very
specific range of symptoms - probably
due to a very wide range of causes.  
fascinating.  that's why it must be so
difficult for researchers to pin it down.
some of us are sensitive due to "X"
and others are sensitive due to "Y"…    
:)  
love, patricia

On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote:




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Just to add my 0.02:  When it rains, I feel much worse while I am inside my apartment.  But I feel much better if I get outside in the rainy weather.

What I wonder is if perhaps an increase in water flowing below the ground (natural 'streams' or pipes etc) results in a form of geopathic stress.  This type of geopathic stress could be the sort of thing that you find in the literature on dowsing (aka water dowsing, water divining, biolocation...), which suggests that unhealthful energy is generated at the point of intersection of underground streams which cross at different depths.

I dowse with L-rods (bent coat hanger) for underground pipes, cables, &c.  Any other dowsers on the list?

 

  This is the End...      
 

  ~=~
  HJR
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nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




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I lived in Arizona for a year, and I noticed that I felt worse during the monsoon season. I also know that I'm sensitive to geopathic stress, so I believe that it was the water running off underground that made my symptoms worse. And whenever there was a particularly heavy downpour later in the evening, I would have a hard time sleeping.

Rolf



On Apr 29, 2013, at 3:08 PM, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Fascinating conversation.  And yes, I am a Dowser too. (More on thislater.)Yes, when it rains, more negative ions are in the air.This is why going to the beach is so relaxing. Also, one feels better whenthey are able to "ground" so the feeling better when it rains may be whythe person felt better. Grounding occurs better with moist soil.  A body that is not electrically grounded, is more susceptible to emfs.This is why barefoot grounding in a place of nature is so helpful.  As to being indoors, and feeling sick when it rains?This can be from a number of factors, one already mentionedwas the increase in cell tower signals, they turn them up whenit rains. I used to feel my house wiring emfs increase when it rained.I had the utility company out to check the utility poles in the alleybehind my house....and they found a broken ceramic insulatoron the pole next door. they said it was putting out some highharmonics (emfs). When this was repaired....the house noise was gone.  But not the end of my rainy night issues.Geopathic stress "does" increase with weather, be it heavy rains,earthquakes, ect.The past 12 mths of earthquake activity has really been ramped UP. I literally FEEL earthquakes...it doesn't seem to matter that I"m in Michigan,and these quakes are occurring on the opposite side of the world. (althoughthere have been reported earthquakes in un usual quake areas, such as Oklahoma,Georgia, Texas has had a few, CA has had some...these are small, but it all adds upas far as geopathic stress goes. ) Thanks to the fracking, earthquakes are increasing. I'm talking a pattern of 25 to as high as 41 earthquakes, over 4.8 magnitude,in ONE night, worldwide. This is "not" the norm. I've seen over 100 earthquakes over 4.8, in a 5 day period......several timesthis past 3-4 mths.  Earthquakes emit radiation. So its not that hard to connect the dots. There aresubterranean underground water lines everywhere...I have dowsed long distancehomes in TX, MA, FL, MI, in the UK, and each room is different, where the lines are.I normally only do the bedroom areas and so far, I have been very accurate.  And its not just sleeping on the intersections, although these crossings are very powerful...sleeping on a water line itself is very harmful.  Putting a mirror faced down under the bed, FACED DOWN, will help DE flect the nastyenergies from geopathic stress.  Blessings, Lizzie
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      I lived in Arizona for a year, and I noticed that I felt worse during the monsoon season. I also know that I'm sensitive to geopathic stress, so I believe that it was the water running off underground that made my symptoms worse. And whenever there was a particularly heavy downpour later in the evening, I would have a hard time sleeping.



Rolf



On Apr 29, 2013, at 3:08 PM, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:



> Just to add my 0.02:  When it rains, I feel much worse while I am inside my apartment.  But I feel much better if I get outside in the rainy weather.

>

> What I wonder is if perhaps an increase in water flowing below the ground (natural 'streams' or pipes etc) results in a form of geopathic stress.  This type of geopathic stress could be the sort of thing that you find in the literature on dowsing (aka water dowsing, water divining, biolocation...), which suggests that unhealthful energy is generated at the point of intersection of underground streams which cross at different depths.

>

> I dowse with L-rods (bent coat hanger) for underground pipes, cables, &c.  Any other dowsers on the list?

>

>  

>

>   This is the End...      

>  

>

>   ~=~

>   HJR

> _________________________________________________________

> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet

> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)

>

> >________________________________

> > From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>

> >To: [hidden email]

> >Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:12:03 PM

> >Subject: Re: [eSens] RAIN

> >

> >

> >we are obviously dealing with a very

> >specific range of symptoms - probably

> >due to a very wide range of causes.  

> >fascinating.  that's why it must be so

> >difficult for researchers to pin it down.

> >some of us are sensitive due to "X"

> >and others are sensitive due to "Y"…    

> >:)  

> >love, patricia

> >

> >On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote:

> >

> >> I had the opposite experience.  We had a day of light rain all day,  

> >> and I felt better than I have in couple of years.  Very few ES  

> >> symptoms.  I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and MCS (23 yrs), so I  

> >> never feel "well", but on this particular rainy day, I had more energy  

> >> and strength than I've had in such a long time, I'd forgotten what it  

> >> was like.  ES short-circuits my brain and keeps me in a dazed and  

> >> confused, but that day I felt centered, focused, and connected to  my  

> >> "self".  I felt much clearer,  and oddly protected from the EMF/RF.  

> >> Maybe it had something to do with the constantly falling negative  

> >> ions.  I feel especially terrible on sunny days.

> >>

> >>

> >> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:19 AM, egg_chips_and_beans wrote:

> >>

> >>> Solved another piece of the puzzle today when I read that phone  

> >>> masts increase their signal during rain and snow.

> >>>

> >>> My symptoms are much worse during rain, certainly during snow.  

> >>> Previously I attributed this to the arthritis.

> >>>

> >>> Last night it rained heavily, today... OUCH.

> >

> >

>

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Thanks all for this thread... I'd love to hear comments and experiences with dowsing, as this is something I need to learn to avoid geopathic stress. I began to sense "something odd" when camping in certain area in the Pacific NW last summer that was beautiful and serene on the outside but when I camped there, I began to feel bad, irritable, fearful, had trouble sleeping, and I knew it wasn't RF or EMF, no electricity or towers around!  I found out that this campsite also had a terrible reputation for drug manufacturing and crime until they drove them off and locked the campsite. The next campsite I moved to and others I stayed at, no problem. Makes you wonder... 

Let's devote a thread to dowsing please, maybe share techniques so that newbies can begin to learn. I think this can help ES, as geopathic stress is another form of radiation.

Pretty please with a cherry on top? 


Tim



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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:18 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] RAIN
 

Fascinating conversation.  And yes, I am a Dowser too. (More on thislater.)Yes, when it rains, more negative ions are in the air.This is why going to the beach is so relaxing. Also, one feels better whenthey are able to "ground" so the feeling better when it rains may be whythe person felt better. Grounding occurs better with moist soil.  A body that is not electrically grounded, is more susceptible to emfs.This is why barefoot grounding in a place of nature is so helpful.  As to being indoors, and feeling sick when it rains?This can be from a number of factors, one already mentionedwas the increase in cell tower signals, they turn them up whenit rains. I used to feel my house wiring emfs increase when it rained.I had the utility company out to check the utility poles in the alleybehind my house....and they found a broken ceramic insulatoron the pole next door. they said it was putting out some highharmonics (emfs). When this was repaired....the house
 noise was gone.  But not the end of my rainy night issues.Geopathic stress "does" increase with weather, be it heavy rains,earthquakes, ect.The past 12 mths of earthquake activity has really been ramped UP. I literally FEEL earthquakes...it doesn't seem to matter that I"m in Michigan,and these quakes are occurring on the opposite side of the world. (althoughthere have been reported earthquakes in un usual quake areas, such as Oklahoma,Georgia, Texas has had a few, CA has had some...these are small, but it all adds upas far as geopathic stress goes. ) Thanks to the fracking, earthquakes are increasing. I'm talking a pattern of 25 to as high as 41 earthquakes, over 4.8 magnitude,in ONE night, worldwide. This is "not" the norm. I've seen over 100 earthquakes over 4.8, in a 5 day period......several timesthis past 3-4 mths.  Earthquakes emit radiation. So its not that hard to connect the dots. There aresubterranean underground water lines everywhere...I
 have dowsed long distancehomes in TX, MA, FL, MI, in the UK, and each room is different, where the lines are.I normally only do the bedroom areas and so far, I have been very accurate.  And its not just sleeping on the intersections, although these crossings are very powerful...sleeping on a water line itself is very harmful.  Putting a mirror faced down under the bed, FACED DOWN, will help DE flect the nastyenergies from geopathic stress.  Blessings, Lizzie
To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:54:55 -0600
Subject: Re: [eSens] RAIN




















 


   
     
     
      I lived in Arizona for a year, and I noticed that I felt worse during the monsoon season. I also know that I'm sensitive to geopathic stress, so I believe that it was the water running off underground that made my symptoms worse. And whenever there was a particularly heavy downpour later in the evening, I would have a hard time sleeping.



Rolf



On Apr 29, 2013, at 3:08 PM, H J R <[hidden email]> wrote:



> Just to add my 0.02:  When it rains, I feel much worse while I am inside my apartment.  But I feel much better if I get outside in the rainy weather.

>

> What I wonder is if perhaps an increase in water flowing below the ground (natural 'streams' or pipes etc) results in a form of geopathic stress.  This type of geopathic stress could be the sort of thing that you find in the literature on dowsing (aka water dowsing, water divining, biolocation...), which suggests that unhealthful energy is generated at the point of intersection of underground streams which cross at different depths.

>

> I dowse with L-rods (bent coat hanger) for underground pipes, cables, &c.  Any other dowsers on the list?

>

> 

>

>   This is the End...     

> 

>

>   ~=~

>   HJR

> _________________________________________________________

> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet

> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)

>

> >________________________________

> > From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>

> >To: [hidden email]

> >Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:12:03 PM

> >Subject: Re: [eSens] RAIN

> >

> >

> >we are obviously dealing with a very

> >specific range of symptoms - probably

> >due to a very wide range of causes. 

> >fascinating.  that's why it must be so

> >difficult for researchers to pin it down.

> >some of us are sensitive due to "X"

> >and others are sensitive due to "Y"…   

> >:) 

> >love, patricia

> >

> >On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:06 AM, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote:

> >

> >> I had the opposite experience.  We had a day of light rain all day, 

> >> and I felt better than I have in couple of years.  Very few ES 

> >> symptoms.  I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and MCS (23 yrs), so I 

> >> never feel "well", but on this particular rainy day, I had more energy 

> >> and strength than I've had in such a long time, I'd forgotten what it 

> >> was like.  ES short-circuits my brain and keeps me in a dazed and 

> >> confused, but that day I felt centered, focused, and connected to  my 

> >> "self".  I felt much clearer,  and oddly protected from the EMF/RF. 

> >> Maybe it had something to do with the constantly falling negative 

> >> ions.  I feel especially terrible on sunny days.

> >>

> >>

> >> On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:19 AM, egg_chips_and_beans wrote:

> >>

> >>> Solved another piece of the puzzle today when I read that phone 

> >>> masts increase their signal during rain and snow.

> >>>

> >>> My symptoms are much worse during rain, certainly during snow. 

> >>> Previously I attributed this to the arthritis.

> >>>

> >>> Last night it rained heavily, today... OUCH.

> >

> >

>

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>

>



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Hi Laurie,

I'm very fair skinned, and never really tanned.  I got teased a lot  
when I was a kid, an era when having a tan was desirable.  I would get  
very red, though.  It looked like I was sunburned, but I usually  
wasn't.  Same happens now.  I get kinda blotchy red, but it goes away  
after I'm out of the sun, so it's not a rash that lingers.

I'm envious of people on this board who have a forest to go walk in.  
I'm close to Golden Gate Park and Ocean Beach in San Francisco, but  
the concentration of cell towers and antennas in that area make it  
impossible for me to go there to enjoy nature.  I'd have to drive a  
very, very long way to find a place that isn't full of electrosmog  
(the Bay Area is blanketed with 4G), and I'm not well enough to do  
that.  Frustrating.

Take care,
Esther





On Apr 29, 2013, at 3:26 AM, Laurie Corbeil wrote:

> Hi Esther,
>
> Do you get a rash from the sun? I do. I guess it's the sun's  
> radiation. I have had MCS for about 20 years, as well. I enjoy the  
> rain in the forest where I walk. Away from cell towers.
> I hope you feel better soon.
> Laurie
>
>



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Lizzie,

How big of a mirror is needed for under the bed?

Also, I've been wondering about something about mirrors and EMF/RF.  I  
have two dressers in my bedroom, both with large mirrors.  They are  
perpendicular to each other.  Would these be causing ricocheting of  
EMF/RF in the room?  Does anyone know?

Thanks,
Esther


On Apr 29, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Elizabeth thode wrote:

>  And its not just sleeping on the intersections, although these  
> crossings are very powerful...sleeping on a water line itself is  
> very harmful.  Putting a mirror faced down under the bed, FACED  
> DOWN, will help DE flect the nastyenergies from geopathic stress.  
> Blessings, Lizzie

Yes, maybe I should add that I am indoors during the rain. Mainly it will rain overnight and I will wake up with a dreadful headache and joint pain. I live in a city so walking barefoot in the rain might attract the wrong sort of attention - the men in white coats, lol.

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