RADAR

> From: K <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 2:27 PM
> We have the Aller Air MCS Air
> Medic.  cost around $1200, no ozone, three filters,
> pre-filter, carbon filter, and the HEPA filter.  Can't
> stand the magnetic field off of it.  It's a shielded
> motor, no glues in the construction of it.  We run it
> when I'm not home.
> Kris
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 9:48:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
>
> This is interesting. Does anyone here use an air cleaner? I
> have experimented with Blueair, Winix and other Plasmawave
> air cleaners.
> I am going to try Rabbitair next, which isn't plasmawave
> but has an ozone free ionizer that can be turned on and off.
> HEPA of course.
> Steve
>
> --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 3:29 AM
> > Paul & Diane,
> >
> > I'm just jumping into this topic so forgive me if I
> have
> > misinterpreted your posts or am repeating something.
> >
> > Following are some exerts from The Healing Energies
> of
> > Magnets by Roger Coghill.  From what I've
> experienced
> > and heard magnetic therapy is not for us EMS
> > sufferers.  But I did like this book for
> explaining
> > electromagnetic fields.
> >
> > 
> >      Our bodies make extensive use of
> > ions for transmitting electric signals between the
> brain and
> > and the nerves.  So it is not surprising that
> large
> > quantities of ions, whether natural or artificial in
> origin,
> > can affect human health.  (we feel better when
> the air
> > is negatively charged)
> >       Prior to a storm
> water-laden clouds
> > become negatively charged, due to friction between the
> water
> > molecules and the air through which the cloud passes.
>
> > Positive ions then accumulate beneath the cloud. 
> As
> > the clouds progress down the sky, these positive ions
> pile
> > up and the wind begins to push them ahead of the
> clouds.
> >      The Earth's surface is also
> > negatively charged as a result of chemical reactions
> at it's
> > core.  This high level of positive ions before a
> storm
> > creates a distinct feeling or airlessness or
> stuffiness in
> > the atmosphere (and physical discomfort to some).
> > Eventually the attraction between the negative and
> positive
> > charges overcomes the air's resistance and the result
> is a
> > flash or more of lightning.  Thunder then rolls
> and
> > down comes the rain.  After the storm how clear
> and
> > sweet the air appears!  This is because the air
> is now
> > surcharged with negative ions and the balance of
> negative
> > and positive charges on the Earth's surface has been
> > restored.
> >
> > Other places that have natural negative ions are in
> the
> > mountains and at the seashore.  I know I always
> feel
> > better when we vacation in the mountains.  And
> people
> > have been traveling to the seashore for centuries to
> feel
> > better , but maybe it's the view.  :)
> >
> > Paul, I can relate to your memory issues.  Post
> it
> > Notes have become my friend.  And the sleepless
> > nights.  I hope that clears up for you soon.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Jennie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "[hidden email]"
> > <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 5:57:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> >
> >   
> > Hi Diana, I cant recall how I feel as its been a
> while,
> > definitely not a
> > release unless the storm really works itself
> out.  As
> > for memory I a  getting
> > very concerned at the state of my memory, I am
> starting to
> > loose chunks
> > and short term is really bad, I feel spaced out, this
> is
> > probably due to
> > broken  sleep (wake at 3.30am every morn and
> then
> > fight to fall asleep) and
> > overdoing it  on this thing, I will have to go
> back to
> > my laptop at a distance
> > instead of  being 600mm from the screen at
> > present.  Ironically I have missed
> > my  medical for benefit state claims twicw now
> cos I
> > literally forgot - I
> > have to  pull my self out of this nose dive, yet
> again
> > thank heavens I have
> > made it  through another dark dreary winter - its
> been
> > Plasma TV hell !
> >
> > PUK
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 22/03/2010 17:22:09 GMT Standard
> Time,
> > evie15422@yahoo. com writes:
> >
> > Hi,  Paul,
> >
> > I react similarly--I pick up on what I think is a
> > growing  instability in
> > the atmosphere before a storm.  It can affect my
> > whole  body sometimes.
> > There is a growing pressure and anxiety within me
> > (along  with many
> > symptoms--EMS and other) and when the storm actually
> hits,
> > I feel  release.  Is this how
> > you react as well?
> >
> > Be well,
> > Diane
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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> From: K <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 2:27 PM
> We have the Aller Air MCS Air
> Medic. cost around $1200, no ozone, three filters,
> pre-filter, carbon filter, and the HEPA filter. Can't
> stand the magnetic field off of it. It's a shielded
> motor, no glues in the construction of it. We run it
> when I'm not home.
> Kris
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 9:48:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
>
> This is interesting. Does anyone here use an air cleaner? I
> have experimented with Blueair, Winix and other Plasmawave
> air cleaners.
> I am going to try Rabbitair next, which isn't plasmawave
> but has an ozone free ionizer that can be turned on and off.
> HEPA of course.
> Steve
>
> --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 3:29 AM
> > Paul & Diane,
> >
> > I'm just jumping into this topic so forgive me if I
> have
> > misinterpreted your posts or am repeating something.
> >
> > Following are some exerts from The Healing Energies
> of
> > Magnets by Roger Coghill. From what I've
> experienced
> > and heard magnetic therapy is not for us EMS
> > sufferers. But I did like this book for
> explaining
> > electromagnetic fields.
> >
> >
> > Our bodies make extensive use of
> > ions for transmitting electric signals between the
> brain and
> > and the nerves. So it is not surprising that
> large
> > quantities of ions, whether natural or artificial in
> origin,
> > can affect human health. (we feel better when
> the air
> > is negatively charged)
> > Prior to a storm
> water-laden clouds
> > become negatively charged, due to friction between the
> water
> > molecules and the air through which the cloud passes.
>
> > Positive ions then accumulate beneath the cloud.
> As
> > the clouds progress down the sky, these positive ions
> pile
> > up and the wind begins to push them ahead of the
> clouds.
> > The Earth's surface is also
> > negatively charged as a result of chemical reactions
> at it's
> > core. This high level of positive ions before a
> storm
> > creates a distinct feeling or airlessness or
> stuffiness in
> > the atmosphere (and physical discomfort to some).
> > Eventually the attraction between the negative and
> positive
> > charges overcomes the air's resistance and the result
> is a
> > flash or more of lightning. Thunder then rolls
> and
> > down comes the rain. After the storm how clear
> and
> > sweet the air appears! This is because the air
> is now
> > surcharged with negative ions and the balance of
> negative
> > and positive charges on the Earth's surface has been
> > restored.
> >
> > Other places that have natural negative ions are in
> the
> > mountains and at the seashore. I know I always
> feel
> > better when we vacation in the mountains. And
> people
> > have been traveling to the seashore for centuries to
> feel
> > better , but maybe it's the view. :)
> >
> > Paul, I can relate to your memory issues. Post
> it
> > Notes have become my friend. And the sleepless
> > nights. I hope that clears up for you soon.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Jennie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "[hidden email]"
> > <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 5:57:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> >
> >
> > Hi Diana, I cant recall how I feel as its been a
> while,
> > definitely not a
> > release unless the storm really works itself
> out. As
> > for memory I a getting
> > very concerned at the state of my memory, I am
> starting to
> > loose chunks
> > and short term is really bad, I feel spaced out, this
> is
> > probably due to
> > broken sleep (wake at 3.30am every morn and
> then
> > fight to fall asleep) and
> > overdoing it on this thing, I will have to go
> back to
> > my laptop at a distance
> > instead of being 600mm from the screen at
> > present. Ironically I have missed
> > my medical for benefit state claims twicw now
> cos I
> > literally forgot - I
> > have to pull my self out of this nose dive, yet
> again
> > thank heavens I have
> > made it through another dark dreary winter - its
> been
> > Plasma TV hell !
> >
> > PUK
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 22/03/2010 17:22:09 GMT Standard
> Time,
> > evie15422@yahoo. com writes:
> >
> > Hi, Paul,
> >
> > I react similarly--I pick up on what I think is a
> > growing instability in
> > the atmosphere before a storm. It can affect my
> > whole body sometimes.
> > There is a growing pressure and anxiety within me
> > (along with many
> > symptoms--EMS and other) and when the storm actually
> hits,
> > I feel release. Is this how
> > you react as well?
> >
> > Be well,
> > Diane
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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> From: K <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 3:35 PM
> I never had to off gas the Aller Air.
> They do not use any glues or adhesives in the building of
> it. I too suffer from MCS.  Did you try the
> IQAir?  My Allergist had one of these in his
> office.  I can't remember all that you had tried.
> There's the Austin Air ones too.
> Kris
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 4:39:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
>
> I've heard AllerAir is good, the Winix Plasmawave tested
> very low with my Cellsensor but the motor makes an odd sound
> so I'm going to try the Rabbitair. I'll post back after
> trying it out and testing it. I just wish it wasn't plastic
> as I have M.C.S. but I'm usually OK after it outgasses.
>
> --- On Tue, 3/23/10, K <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: K <[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 2:27 PM
> > We have the Aller Air MCS Air
> > Medic.  cost around $1200, no ozone, three
> filters,
> > pre-filter, carbon filter, and the HEPA filter. 
> Can't
> > stand the magnetic field off of it.  It's a
> shielded
> > motor, no glues in the construction of it.  We
> run it
> > when I'm not home.
> > Kris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Steve G <[hidden email]>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 9:48:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> >
> > This is interesting. Does anyone here use an air
> cleaner? I
> > have experimented with Blueair, Winix and other
> Plasmawave
> > air cleaners.
> > I am going to try Rabbitair next, which isn't
> plasmawave
> > but has an ozone free ionizer that can be turned on
> and off.
> > HEPA of course.
> > Steve
> >
> > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 3:29 AM
> > > Paul & Diane,
> > >
> > > I'm just jumping into this topic so forgive me if
> I
> > have
> > > misinterpreted your posts or am repeating
> something.
> > >
> > > Following are some exerts from The Healing
> Energies
> > of
> > > Magnets by Roger Coghill.  From what I've
> > experienced
> > > and heard magnetic therapy is not for us EMS
> > > sufferers.  But I did like this book for
> > explaining
> > > electromagnetic fields.
> > >
> > > 
> > >      Our bodies make extensive use
> of
> > > ions for transmitting electric signals between
> the
> > brain and
> > > and the nerves.  So it is not surprising
> that
> > large
> > > quantities of ions, whether natural or artificial
> in
> > origin,
> > > can affect human health.  (we feel better
> when
> > the air
> > > is negatively charged)
> > >       Prior to a storm
> > water-laden clouds
> > > become negatively charged, due to friction
> between the
> > water
> > > molecules and the air through which the cloud
> passes.
> >
> > > Positive ions then accumulate beneath the cloud.
>
> > As
> > > the clouds progress down the sky, these positive
> ions
> > pile
> > > up and the wind begins to push them ahead of the
> > clouds.
> > >      The Earth's surface is also
> > > negatively charged as a result of chemical
> reactions
> > at it's
> > > core.  This high level of positive ions
> before a
> > storm
> > > creates a distinct feeling or airlessness or
> > stuffiness in
> > > the atmosphere (and physical discomfort to some).
>
> > > Eventually the attraction between the negative
> and
> > positive
> > > charges overcomes the air's resistance and the
> result
> > is a
> > > flash or more of lightning.  Thunder then
> rolls
> > and
> > > down comes the rain.  After the storm how
> clear
> > and
> > > sweet the air appears!  This is because the
> air
> > is now
> > > surcharged with negative ions and the balance of
> > negative
> > > and positive charges on the Earth's surface has
> been
> > > restored.
> > >
> > > Other places that have natural negative ions are
> in
> > the
> > > mountains and at the seashore.  I know I
> always
> > feel
> > > better when we vacation in the mountains. 
> And
> > people
> > > have been traveling to the seashore for centuries
> to
> > feel
> > > better , but maybe it's the view.  :)
> > >
> > > Paul, I can relate to your memory issues. 
> Post
> > it
> > > Notes have become my friend.  And the
> sleepless
> > > nights.  I hope that clears up for you
> soon.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > >
> > > Jennie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "[hidden email]"
> > > <[hidden email]>
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 5:57:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
> > >
> > >   
> > > Hi Diana, I cant recall how I feel as its been a
> > while,
> > > definitely not a
> > > release unless the storm really works itself
> > out.  As
> > > for memory I a  getting
> > > very concerned at the state of my memory, I am
> > starting to
> > > loose chunks
> > > and short term is really bad, I feel spaced out,
> this
> > is
> > > probably due to
> > > broken  sleep (wake at 3.30am every morn
> and
> > then
> > > fight to fall asleep) and
> > > overdoing it  on this thing, I will have to
> go
> > back to
> > > my laptop at a distance
> > > instead of  being 600mm from the screen at
> > > present.  Ironically I have missed
> > > my  medical for benefit state claims twicw
> now
> > cos I
> > > literally forgot - I
> > > have to  pull my self out of this nose dive,
> yet
> > again
> > > thank heavens I have
> > > made it  through another dark dreary winter
> - its
> > been
> > > Plasma TV hell !
> > >
> > > PUK
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 22/03/2010 17:22:09 GMT
> Standard
> > Time,
> > > evie15422@yahoo. com writes:
> > >
> > > Hi,  Paul,
> > >
> > > I react similarly--I pick up on what I think is
> a
> > > growing  instability in
> > > the atmosphere before a storm.  It can
> affect my
> > > whole  body sometimes.
> > > There is a growing pressure and anxiety within
> me
> > > (along  with many
> > > symptoms--EMS and other) and when the storm
> actually
> > hits,
> > > I feel  release.  Is this how
> > > you react as well?
> > >
> > > Be well,
> > > Diane
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> We have CleanAir ionisers, which do not have a fan, but a special lamp
> inside.
> They work fine. We have always fresh air in our rooms.
> But.
> They emit a lot of *dirty air*.
> A big lot.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Martin" <marc@...>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
>
>
> >> This is interesting. Does anyone here use an air cleaner? I have
> >> experimented with Blueair, Winix and other Plasmawave air cleaners.
> >> I am going to try Rabbitair next, which isn't plasmawave but has an ozone
> >> free ionizer that can be turned on and off. HEPA of course.
> >
> > I have certainly used many air cleaners over the years... I worry
> > that the motor/fan ones contribute to ES, although that doesn't
> > stop me from having the fan on my furnace running 24/7. :-)
> >
> > I also use cleaners that emit small amounts of ozone into the air...
> > but probably not much more than you'd experience outdoors in
> > the mountains. This keeps down the smell of any chemicals,
> > pets, etc. I gave up on "ionizers" years ago, as they didn't
> > appear to have any benefits, and destroyed the furniture
> > and the walls.
> >
> > Marc
> >
>

>
> I was talking to a gal a long time ago who is severly EHS, she had a friend who experienced this waking up at the same time every night, She took her meter readings then at the same time, sure enough, a satellite was going overhead in it's orbit, disturbing her friend's sleep.
> Could that be what you are experiencing?
>
> I too had terrible short term memory problems. I am really really hopingwith the tick borne disease treatment that this will lessen my sensitivities and my memory issues will be at bay.
> Kris
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "paulpjc@..." <paulpjc@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 4:57:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
>
> Hi Diana, I cant recall how I feel as its been a while, definitely not a  
> release unless the storm really works itself out. As for memory I a getting
> very concerned at the state of my memory, I am starting to loose chunks  
> and short term is really bad, I feel spaced out, this is probably due to
> broken sleep (wake at 3.30am every morn and then fight to fall asleep) and
> overdoing it on this thing, I will have to go back to my laptop at a distance
> instead of being 600mm from the screen at present. Ironically I have missed
> my medical for benefit state claims twicw now cos I literally forgot - I
> have to pull my self out of this nose dive, yet again thank heavens I have
> made it through another dark dreary winter - its been Plasma TV hell !
>
> PUK
>
>
> In a message dated 22/03/2010 17:22:09 GMT Standard Time,  
> evie15422@... writes:
>
> Hi, Paul,
>
> I react similarly--I pick up on what I think is a growing instability in
> the atmosphere before a storm. It can affect my whole body sometimes.  
> There is a growing pressure and anxiety within me (along with many
> symptoms--EMS and other) and when the storm actually hits, I feel release. Is this how
> you react as well?
>
> Be well,  
> Diane
>
>

>
> Hi, Paul,
>  
> Hope you find some help (and hope) soon on that plasma TV, Paul.  You sound like you really need it.  I went thru the memory thing nearly 2 decades ago--could not find my way home a couple times my mind got so shot.  And short-term memory was non-existent.  Have you tried any personal devices like the Quantum products to help with the plasma tv? (I know your electrics are abit different over there, so the Quantums might not work, but are there alternatives?)  Will you be going to Norway this summer?  That should help.  :)  Hold on to your memories of emf peace in Norway, Paul. 
>  
> Also, have you checked your magnesium?  Could you be deficient?  That is about the time I'd always wake up--a bit after 3:30AM when I was magnesium deficient.
>  
> Hope you can go earlier this year and stay longer,
> Diane
>

> From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [eSens] Ionisers was Re: RADAR
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:48 AM
> This is the one I use, and like, the
> bedroom size one:
>
> http://apexdistribution.stores.yahoo.net/xjulairpuwhe.html
>
> --- In [hidden email],
> "charles" <charles@...> wrote:
> >
> > We have CleanAir ionisers, which do not have a fan,
> but a special lamp
> > inside.
> > They work fine. We have always fresh air in our
> rooms.
> > But.
> > They emit a lot of *dirty air*.
> > A big lot.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Charles Claessens
> > member Verband Baubiologie
> > www.milieuziektes.nl
> > www.milieuziektes.be
> > www.hetbitje.nl
> > checked by Norton
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marc Martin" <marc@...>
> > To: <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: RADAR
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> > >> This is interesting. Does anyone here use an
> air cleaner? I have
> > >> experimented with Blueair, Winix and other
> Plasmawave air cleaners.
> > >> I am going to try Rabbitair next, which isn't
> plasmawave but has an ozone
> > >> free ionizer that can be turned on and off.
> HEPA of course.
> > >
> > > I have certainly used many air cleaners over the
> years... I worry
> > > that the motor/fan ones contribute to ES,
> although that doesn't
> > > stop me from having the fan on my furnace running
> 24/7.  :-)
> > >
> > > I also use cleaners that emit small amounts of
> ozone into the air...
> > > but probably not much more than you'd experience
> outdoors in
> > > the mountains.  This keeps down the smell of
> any chemicals,
> > > pets, etc.  I gave up on "ionizers" years
> ago, as they didn't
> > > appear to have any benefits, and destroyed the
> furniture
> > > and the walls.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> >
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