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KathyB

I have a question. We read about fiberoptics being an answer. The phone co does not seperate wi-fi signals from dsl So, we're feeling wi-fi on our phone lines.

Would it ease some of the sensitivity we feel  changing to fiberoptic hook up coming into the house? If you did if you have older electric does it matter? I don't know if fiberoptics would bother our older wiring, that needs updating.

Another thing. Why do I feel less talking on the phone w those who have their phone service w a cable TV provider that strictly uses fiberoptics?

 I feel blown away talking to anyone w the phone co? Is it that they don't use an attenuator or something else?

Kathy



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Marc Martin
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> I have a question. We read about fiberoptics being an answer.

We had one person who felt worse when wired up with fiber optics.  I
don't think it was the fiber optics itself that was causing the
problem, but the "black box" that was installed in the house
that converted the signal back into something "normal" that
could be used in the house.

> Another thing. Why do I feel less talking on the phone w those
> who have their phone service w a cable TV provider that strictly
> uses fiberoptics?

Don't know... you'd think that it would not matter what the
other person was using, just what you are using.

Marc
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Elizabeth thode

Marc said:
Don't know... you'd think that it would not matter what the

other person was using, just what you are using.


I remember catherine from the yahoo site mentioned
acoustic effects. Its been awhile but she basically
said there were those who could be effected, talking on
their landline phones, if they were talking to someone else
who was on a  cell phone.
This has something to do with acoustics, but I'm not quite sure how
it works.
I do know that I used to get a slight head ache if I talked to  someone
using a cell phone. I don't feel it anymore though.
Lizzie

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      > I have a question. We read about fiberoptics being an answer.



We had one person who felt worse when wired up with fiber optics.  I

don't think it was the fiber optics itself that was causing the

problem, but the "black box" that was installed in the house

that converted the signal back into something "normal" that

could be used in the house.



> Another thing. Why do I feel less talking on the phone w those

> who have their phone service w a cable TV provider that strictly

> uses fiberoptics?



Don't know... you'd think that it would not matter what the

other person was using, just what you are using.



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Marc Martin
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> I remember catherine from the yahoo site mentioned
> acoustic effects.  Its been awhile but she basically
> said there were those who could be effected, talking on
> their landline phones, if they were talking to someone else
> who was on a  cell phone.

Yes, that's true -- people with ES can be sensitive to all
sorts of things that aren't necessarily what we think of
as being "EMF".  

I have an MP3 player, and I discovered that if I encoded
my music using one method, it would bother me.  However,
if I encoded the same music using another method, it
did not bother me.  I think someone once labelled this
phenomenon as "aural fatigue", and is something that
can happen when you listen to compressed music.

And if anyone is interested in the details for my
particular case, I was bothered by variable-bit-rate
encoding (VBR), but NOT bothered by constant-bit-rate
encoding or average-bit-rate encoding (ABR).

Of course, I think most of the music that people download
from iTunes, Amazon, etc. is VBR, which is the kind that
I found to be the most bothersome!

Marc
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KathyB
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No, I don't want that black box here, so  we won't get that.

I noticed the difference of feeling less  when talking to someone that uses a phone

w fiberoptics vs. someone who uses the phone co. signal.

Kathy



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      > I have a question. We read about fiberoptics being an answer.



We had one person who felt worse when wired up with fiber optics.  I

don't think it was the fiber optics itself that was causing the

problem, but the "black box" that was installed in the house

that converted the signal back into something "normal" that

could be used in the house.







Don't know... you'd think that it would not matter what the

other person was using, just what you are using.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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Elizabeth thode
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That's really interesting about the being bothered by variable bit rate encoding.
Would this technology be similiar to  variable speed motors, which ES people
also report difficulties with?
Lizzie


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      > I remember catherine from the yahoo site mentioned

> acoustic effects.  Its been awhile but she basically

> said there were those who could be effected, talking on

> their landline phones, if they were talking to someone else

> who was on a  cell phone.



Yes, that's true -- people with ES can be sensitive to all

sorts of things that aren't necessarily what we think of

as being "EMF".  



I have an MP3 player, and I discovered that if I encoded

my music using one method, it would bother me.  However,

if I encoded the same music using another method, it

did not bother me.  I think someone once labelled this

phenomenon as "aural fatigue", and is something that

can happen when you listen to compressed music.



And if anyone is interested in the details for my

particular case, I was bothered by variable-bit-rate

encoding (VBR), but NOT bothered by constant-bit-rate

encoding or average-bit-rate encoding (ABR).



Of course, I think most of the music that people download

from iTunes, Amazon, etc. is VBR, which is the kind that

I found to be the most bothersome!



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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