Questions about mercury toxicity

Again, Sue's experience is similar - she tolerates quinoa well. So we both
eat a lot of it now! It is extra useful because it is also a protein
substitute.
Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
Martin
Sent: 18 January 2008 21:12
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Subject: Re: [eSens] grains



In my experience, Quinoa is the least harmful of the grains.
Oats, Millet, and Amaranth seem okay as well.

Marc

> I had wondered about grains and gluten. Have been avoiding wheat but
> I have been eating ryvita and oats. I recently read that oats are
> often comtaminated with gluten from the processing plant but one can
> buy certified gluten-free oats now (Bob's Red Mill is one I believe).





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Hi Diane and Marc,

The relationship of phase I and phase II is a bit complicated - the clearest
explanation we've seen was in a book by Patrick Holford (don't know if that
would be available in the US though). Grapefruit and GSE are believed to
slow down phase I, and have caused problems for people taking some drugs
(e.g. SSRI's) because they aren't eliminated properly and "black fogs" can
result. On the other hand, as you rightly say, if phase I is going fast and
phase II is not, you get some nasty intermediates building up.

I believe that phase II liver detox problems are probably a big factor for
many people with MCS and ES (sorry if I sound like a stuck record on this).

I would have thought Dr Rae or a few of the better clued-up doctors in the
USA ought to be able to treat this, as the background seems to be reasonably
well known (and published). I think that Great Smokies would do suitable
tests to check the key liver chemicals to show whether any particular
pathways are not functioning - in fact Sue's samples might well have been
sent there (I know some of her tests were done transatlantic as there
weren't UK/European labs with a proven track record in them). In her case 2
of the 4 pathways weren't working and the 3rd (glutathione) had become
seriously depleted as a result, so it definitely pointed the way forward for
us. For Sue's particular problems, magnesium sulphate and glutathione have
improved things. Cysteine is the standard prescribed treatment to deal with
low sulphate, but that didn't work for Sue because it turned out her
cysteine-sulphate conversion doesn't work - this is the kind of key
information that the tests can reveal.

Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Evie
Sent: 18 January 2008 07:30
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Subject: Re: [eSens] phase I and II detox and GSE, etc



Hi Marc,

I was afraid that might be the case with GSE as I noticed I never have detox
symptoms from it killing candida, and with all the other germicidals I have
bad detox symptoms. The sites only mention grapefruit juice, but I suspected
the GSE was halting phase I too.

Ditto for the milk thistle also. I can't take the stuff due to it causing
too severe detox symptoms. I have been experimenting with riboflavin and am
having problems with it, as well. I thought maybe I was lacking another
nutrient that has to be balanced with it and so did some research. I found
molybdenum, iron, other Bs, and some amino acids work with it. But I suspect
ribo, etc, are causing a liver detox imbalance due to speeding up phase I
detox. Such a shame as I have about a dozen symptoms of riboflavin
deficiency. After taking even small doses of riboflavin, tho, I have
horrible detox symptoms and pretty much drop whereever I am and fall asleep
for 2 hours. After about 10 days of this I had to halt the riboflavin
altogether. What I really need is to overcome the phase II dysfunction, but
that is alot more complicated. I can take the nutrients, etc, for phase II
that I know about but that doesn't seem to work for me. Any suggestions???
Does anybody know
if Dr Rae from EHCD (or anyone else) can treat phase II detox problems?

Thanks,
Diane

Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com> wrote:
> I have dysfunctional phase II liver detox pathways and grapefruit in any
> form makes me feel great! However, this is probably because it slows or
stops
> entirely phase I detox and so I am not getting all the symptoms of phase
II
> dysfunction

I should note that 7 years ago, grapefruit seed extract also made me feel
great, and that I also had liver tests which showed an overactive phase
I liver detox. Also I recently noted that anything containing Milk
Thistle makes me feel bad, and I believe that Milk Thistle boosts
phase I liver detox.

But it is good to have those phases balanced, so temporarily suppressing
one phase can have its merits!

I should note that I hardly take grapefruit seed extract anymore -- maybe
if I've got a cold or flu, but not on a daily basis.

Marc

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> magnesium sulphate and glutathione have improved things.

Magnesium Sulphate? As in "Epsom Salt" ? Taken orally
or in a bath?

(I remember drinking this stuff when I was trying
gallbladder flushes -- yuck!)

Marc

Yes, Epsom salts! At different times Sue has had it by IV infusions (all
she could tolerate at first), orally, baths or (most recently) injections.
IV is expensive, orally doesn't work well if your gut is bad, baths can give
overdose detox symptoms, and injections are painful! Take your pick...

Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
Martin
Sent: 18 January 2008 23:05
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] phase I and II detox and GSE, etc



> magnesium sulphate and glutathione have improved things.

Magnesium Sulphate? As in "Epsom Salt" ? Taken orally
or in a bath?

(I remember drinking this stuff when I was trying
gallbladder flushes -- yuck!)

Marc





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