Question about video-signal adapters (HDMI-to-DVI, etc.)

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> For netbooks (and all laptops) make sure wi-fi is switched off or disabled. Even if you're not using it, it may be on. Especially with the eeepc, the wi-fi is continual. With other laptops, unused wi-fi may be once a minute, but still annoying. Disabling it is the best policy. See http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=214308
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> Regarding AC magnetic fields of laptops, use a USB keyboard or mouse and keep the computer far away (1 meter should be enough). I found that Sun's keyboards tend to be slightly better on EMF than Dell's keyboards. However, with both, it's only when I'm typing that I measure the EMF. (In contrast to laptops where the EMF is quite continual). Keyboard EMF is maybe ~ 1mG -- much lower than the laptop? Mechanical mouse is better than optical mouse, which is better than wireless mouse.
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> --- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > The max TDP of the i7 is the same as the i5, 35 W.
> > At least that's what Intel says. What they should really
> > rate is the average TDP.
> >
> > Did you take a look at the Samsung XL2270 monitor? It has an external
> > power supply. I haven't measured it, but it may be worth a look.
> >
> > As for netbooks, the HP mini 210 had the lowest magnetic field of them
> > all. It was 3-7 milli gauss, but pulsed up to 15 mg every 5 seconds. All the
> > other netbooks were at 35-50 milli gauss just above the keyboard.
> >
> > Gotta get off this EMF monster now. I thought maybe the aluminum uni-body
> > would help the Mac Pro but I was wrong - maybe it helps with some of the
> > higher frequencies, but the devastating lower frequencies go right through.
> >
> > Eli
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You getting a MacBook?
> > > >
> > > > My brother just got one (MacBook Pro 15" i7). I'm on it right now,
> > > > and I can tell you it's an electromagnetic nightmare - Bad chest pains,
> > > > tinnitus and ear ache.
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I went to Best Buy to test other laptops. They're all the
> > > > same. 100+ milli gauss just above the keyboard with any of the
> > > > new i3, i5 or i7 intel mobile chipsets.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sticking with my old HP "live strong" laptop and other HP with
> > > > an Ultra Low Voltage processor.
> > > >
> > > > Eli
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Eli :)
> > >
> > > Yeah, Apple may have reached the point where they are packing too much "stuff" into a too-small chassis, when it comes to their Macbooks. I suppose even the highly-sophisticated throttling/power-management techniques that Macbooks use isn't enough to "save" some from the emfs (including myself, I guess).
> > >
> > > But no - I'm not getting a Macbook (at least not today I'm not ;) ). I could change my mind at any time, but right now I'm planning on a Mac Mini. I know I slammed the Mac Mini when I saw the new, thinner bodystyle (which includes the built-in power supply) - but weighing the alternatives forced me to reconsider. The Dell Zino apparently has major reliability issues, from scanning some of the user feedback. And I'm not comfortable with placing a full-sized desktop in my bedroom - with all of the "heat" it could generate. And I much prefer a company that offers solid technical support - so that ruled out nettops like the Asrock Nettop and the Acer Aspire Revo. And for various reasons, I'm not too comfortable with purchasing a laptop, especially if my e.s. dictates that I use it as a virtual desktop. I haven't been able to "test" many laptops, anyway.
> > >
> > > Yes, the Mac Mini has that built-in switching power supply - but I've been trying to convince myself that it would be o.k.. Maybe the aluminum unibody of the Mac Mini shields most of the emf. Maybe Apple designed a kick-a$$ power-supply that minimizes noise. If they are packing the power-supply into that small chassis - surely they must have accounted for "electromagnetic interference"? After all, you can't have the emfs from the power-supply interfering with the other components.
> > >
> > > Btw, I just read that the Core i7 chip has a TDP of 45W! My 2001 Gateway full-sized desktop had a processor with a TDP of 53W.
> > >
> > > ~Svetaswan
> > >
> >
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> With a HF59B, you cannot measuere the *dirty air* this Macbook is emitting.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jaime_schunkewitz
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:23 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Question about video-signal adapters (HDMI-to-DVI,etc.) [LAPTOPS]
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> Yes, of course the WiFry is disabled. That's a given.
> I measured this MacBook Pro with an Gigahertz Solutions HF59B
> and it had no measurable RF.
>
> 1 meter is not nearly enough distance - I still feel this thing at 3 meters
> or more. The headache and tinnitus are atrocious. But many here
> watch TV - quite an amazing feat for an electro sensitive.
>
> Eli
>
> --- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@> wrote:
> >
> > For netbooks (and all laptops) make sure wi-fi is switched off or disabled. Even if you're not using it, it may be on. Especially with the eeepc, the wi-fi is continual. With other laptops, unused wi-fi may be once aminute, but still annoying. Disabling it is the best policy. See http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=214308
> >
> > Regarding AC magnetic fields of laptops, use a USB keyboard or mouse and keep the computer far away (1 meter should be enough). I found that Sun's keyboards tend to be slightly better on EMF than Dell's keyboards. However, with both, it's only when I'm typing that I measure the EMF. (In contrast to laptops where the EMF is quite continual). Keyboard EMF is maybe ~ 1mG -- much lower than the laptop? Mechanical mouse is better than optical mouse, which is better than wireless mouse.
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The max TDP of the i7 is the same as the i5, 35 W.
> > > At least that's what Intel says. What they should really
> > > rate is the average TDP.
> > >
> > > Did you take a look at the Samsung XL2270 monitor? It has an external
> > > power supply. I haven't measured it, but it may be worth a look.
> > >
> > > As for netbooks, the HP mini 210 had the lowest magnetic field of them
> > > all. It was 3-7 milli gauss, but pulsed up to 15 mg every 5 seconds. All the
> > > other netbooks were at 35-50 milli gauss just above the keyboard.
> > >
> > > Gotta get off this EMF monster now. I thought maybe the aluminum uni-body
> > > would help the Mac Pro but I was wrong - maybe it helps with some of the
> > > higher frequencies, but the devastating lower frequencies go right through.
> > >
> > > Eli
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You getting a MacBook?
> > > > >
> > > > > My brother just got one (MacBook Pro 15" i7). I'm on it right now,
> > > > > and I can tell you it's an electromagnetic nightmare - Bad chest pains,
> > > > > tinnitus and ear ache.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday I went to Best Buy to test other laptops. They're allthe
> > > > > same. 100+ milli gauss just above the keyboard with any of the
> > > > > new i3, i5 or i7 intel mobile chipsets.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sticking with my old HP "live strong" laptop and other HP with
> > > > > an Ultra Low Voltage processor.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eli
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Eli :)
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, Apple may have reached the point where they are packing toomuch "stuff" into a too-small chassis, when it comes to their Macbooks. Isuppose even the highly-sophisticated throttling/power-management techniques that Macbooks use isn't enough to "save" some from the emfs (including myself, I guess).
> > > >
> > > > But no - I'm not getting a Macbook (at least not today I'm not ;)). I could change my mind at any time, but right now I'm planning on a Mac Mini. I know I slammed the Mac Mini when I saw the new, thinner bodystyle (which includes the built-in power supply) - but weighing the alternatives forced me to reconsider. The Dell Zino apparently has major reliability issues, from scanning some of the user feedback. And I'm not comfortable with placing a full-sized desktop in my bedroom - with all of the "heat" it could generate. And I much prefer a company that offers solid technical support - so that ruled out nettops like the Asrock Nettop and the Acer Aspire Revo. And for various reasons, I'm not too comfortable with purchasing alaptop, especially if my e.s. dictates that I use it as a virtual desktop.I haven't been able to "test" many laptops, anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the Mac Mini has that built-in switching power supply - but I've been trying to convince myself that it would be o.k.. Maybe the aluminum unibody of the Mac Mini shields most of the emf. Maybe Apple designed akick-a$$ power-supply that minimizes noise. If they are packing the power-supply into that small chassis - surely they must have accounted for "electromagnetic interference"? After all, you can't have the emfs from the power-supply interfering with the other components.
> > > >
> > > > Btw, I just read that the Core i7 chip has a TDP of 45W! My 2001Gateway full-sized desktop had a processor with a TDP of 53W.  
> > > >
> > > > ~Svetaswan
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> With a HF59B, you cannot measuere the *dirty air* this Macbook is emitting.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jaime_schunkewitz
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:23 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Question about video-signal adapters (HDMI-to-DVI, etc.) [LAPTOPS]
>
>
>
>
> Yes, of course the WiFry is disabled. That's a given.
> I measured this MacBook Pro with an Gigahertz Solutions HF59B
> and it had no measurable RF.
>
> 1 meter is not nearly enough distance - I still feel this thing at 3 meters
> or more. The headache and tinnitus are atrocious. But many here
> watch TV - quite an amazing feat for an electro sensitive.
>
> Eli
>
> --- In [hidden email], "emraware" <emraware@> wrote:
> >
> > For netbooks (and all laptops) make sure wi-fi is switched off or disabled. Even if you're not using it, it may be on. Especially with the eeepc, the wi-fi is continual. With other laptops, unused wi-fi may be once a minute, but still annoying. Disabling it is the best policy. See http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=214308
> >
> > Regarding AC magnetic fields of laptops, use a USB keyboard or mouse and keep the computer far away (1 meter should be enough). I found that Sun's keyboards tend to be slightly better on EMF than Dell's keyboards. However, with both, it's only when I'm typing that I measure the EMF. (In contrast to laptops where the EMF is quite continual). Keyboard EMF is maybe ~ 1mG -- much lower than the laptop? Mechanical mouse is better than optical mouse, which is better than wireless mouse.
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The max TDP of the i7 is the same as the i5, 35 W.
> > > At least that's what Intel says. What they should really
> > > rate is the average TDP.
> > >
> > > Did you take a look at the Samsung XL2270 monitor? It has an external
> > > power supply. I haven't measured it, but it may be worth a look.
> > >
> > > As for netbooks, the HP mini 210 had the lowest magnetic field of them
> > > all. It was 3-7 milli gauss, but pulsed up to 15 mg every 5 seconds. All the
> > > other netbooks were at 35-50 milli gauss just above the keyboard.
> > >
> > > Gotta get off this EMF monster now. I thought maybe the aluminum uni-body
> > > would help the Mac Pro but I was wrong - maybe it helps with some of the
> > > higher frequencies, but the devastating lower frequencies go right through.
> > >
> > > Eli
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You getting a MacBook?
> > > > >
> > > > > My brother just got one (MacBook Pro 15" i7). I'm on it right now,
> > > > > and I can tell you it's an electromagnetic nightmare - Bad chest pains,
> > > > > tinnitus and ear ache.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday I went to Best Buy to test other laptops. They're all the
> > > > > same. 100+ milli gauss just above the keyboard with any of the
> > > > > new i3, i5 or i7 intel mobile chipsets.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sticking with my old HP "live strong" laptop and other HP with
> > > > > an Ultra Low Voltage processor.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eli
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Eli :)
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, Apple may have reached the point where they are packing too much "stuff" into a too-small chassis, when it comes to their Macbooks. I suppose even the highly-sophisticated throttling/power-management techniques that Macbooks use isn't enough to "save" some from the emfs (including myself, I guess).
> > > >
> > > > But no - I'm not getting a Macbook (at least not today I'm not ;) ). I could change my mind at any time, but right now I'm planning on a Mac Mini. I know I slammed the Mac Mini when I saw the new, thinner bodystyle (which includes the built-in power supply) - but weighing the alternatives forced me to reconsider. The Dell Zino apparently has major reliability issues, from scanning some of the user feedback. And I'm not comfortable with placing a full-sized desktop in my bedroom - with all of the "heat" it could generate. And I much prefer a company that offers solid technical support - so that ruled out nettops like the Asrock Nettop and the Acer Aspire Revo. And for various reasons, I'm not too comfortable with purchasing a laptop, especially if my e.s. dictates that I use it as a virtual desktop. I haven't been able to "test" many laptops, anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the Mac Mini has that built-in switching power supply - but I've been trying to convince myself that it would be o.k.. Maybe the aluminum unibody of the Mac Mini shields most of the emf. Maybe Apple designed a kick-a$$ power-supply that minimizes noise. If they are packing the power-supply into that small chassis - surely they must have accounted for "electromagnetic interference"? After all, you can't have the emfs from the power-supply interfering with the other components.
> > > >
> > > > Btw, I just read that the Core i7 chip has a TDP of 45W! My 2001 Gateway full-sized desktop had a processor with a TDP of 53W.
> > > >
> > > > ~Svetaswan
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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