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adiaha22

Re: was Question about cruise ships.. re LED bulbs..

Hi Marc!

What is the light qualityof the LED bulbs? Is it like the LED flashlights with an unnatural color white?

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Subject: Re: [eSens] was Question about cruise ships.. re LED bulbs..
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Date: Sunday, February 5, 2012, 12:22 PM

We haven't had a lot of feedback with LED lights, presumably
because they are so expensive. It seems like some LEDs might
be bad, while others are good. Depending on the type of
transformers they use (if any). I don't personally know of
any way to distinguish the good ones from the bad ones, or
knowing if the bad ones are really that bad (?)

Maybe someone else has more experience with these?

Marc

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012, at 05:14 PM, ada iye wrote:

> Question for mark (or anyone really) . Hey Mark I'm currently away from home ( and bulbs). They only have those horrible energy savers where I'm staying, but I have seen some LED in the supermarket up the road. Having never used them before I want to make sure they are Kosher before splashing out. Can you give me any feedback on how they compare to Incandescents in terms of symptoms, as they are quite pricey, but equally I'm away for the next two months and can't tolerate the curly bulbs any longer.
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> >My ES friend went on a cruise ship last year, and it made her sick -
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> Yes, when going on vacation, one should consider if they want to
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Marc Martin

Re: was Question about cruise ships.. re LED bulbs..

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> What is the light qualityof the LED bulbs? Is it like the LED flashlights
> with an unnatural color white?

I think there is a wide range of light quality available in current LED lights.

Nexxus has a full-spectrum LED using quantum dot technology (expensive)

Some LEDs have a bluish tint (cool color temperature), while others have a
yellow tint (warm color temperature). I prefer the yellow-tinted ones.

The bulbs I have purchased are the older, dimmer ones, but presumably
they are getting brighter all the time. Certainly the LED flashlights I have
are pretty blinding... but not a very pleasing light, that's for sure...

Marc

Elizabeth thode

RE: was Question about cruise ships.. re LED bulbs..

In reply to this post by adiaha22

I found some battery operated led lights with an opague white lense that
puts out a beautiful light that is not hurtful or too bright on our eyes.

I love these lights!
Lizzie

Energzier ecabl3aa led under cabinet light, 3aa battery ...
$12.03
Amazon.com

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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:56:48 -0800
Subject: Re: [eSens] was Question about cruise ships.. re LED bulbs..

Hi Marc!

What is the light qualityof the LED bulbs? Is it like the LED flashlights with an unnatural color white?

--- On Sun, 2/5/12, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] was Question about cruise ships.. re LED bulbs..
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, February 5, 2012, 12:22 PM

We haven't had a lot of feedback with LED lights, presumably
because they are so expensive. It seems like some LEDs might
be bad, while others are good. Depending on the type of
transformers they use (if any). I don't personally know of
any way to distinguish the good ones from the bad ones, or
knowing if the bad ones are really that bad (?)

Maybe someone else has more experience with these?

Marc

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kikkie2004-2

Re: Question about cruise ships... (and LED bulbs)

In reply to this post by adiaha22

Hi

I think for a week.

But as Marc said, you could take incandescent light bulbs to at least get away from the energy savers in your cabin. Don't know how much that would help though in light of everything else.

Here is emfields (a UK company)'s take on LED bulbs (they sell them too):

http://www.emfields.org/lighting/overview.asp

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> > Last year, I signed up for an anniversary group cruise with Carnival Destiny. I was very concerned, but people were telling me that when they had gone on a cruise, they hadn't seen cell phones or laptops. That might have been true at the time when they travelled.
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kikkie2004-2

Re: Question about cruise ships...

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I've even taken them on the plane (domestic flight) as hand luggage.
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