Prof Meyl & Scalar Healing

Thanks Marc and I am happy for you that you made good improvements.

What part of the therapy helped you (and others) most?

The less than 33% success rate indeed sounds more plausible. On his website http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina300.html, unfortunately in Dutch only, Charles lists a lot of experiences of people following his therapy, all positive. It is really a success story, which does not sound very realistic as you confirms.

On July  5, "bob [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks Marc and I am happy for you that you made good improvements.
>
> What part of the therapy helped you (and others) most?

For me, treating this as a "heavy metal" problem and a "chronic infections"
problem has been the most helpful overall.  Not sure which problem came first.  :-)
And certainly other have found that helpful as well.

So that would be my "two point" plan.  :-)

Marc

Bringing things back to the original subject, here's a good summary page of Prof Meyl's work.  It includes links to his published research papers:

http://internationalresearchsociety.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/dr-konstantin-meyl-the-man-they-call-the-new-tesla/

Charles, I appreciate that you're trying to help others with your website and treatments and I encourage you to continue doing so and not take anything off your website that might help others.

Bob, if we restricted internet information about electrical sensitivity to just what is accepted by mainstream and has passed rigorous study then there would be no information at all.  The same goes for most of alternative medicine.  Yet I and many others have benefitted much much more from alternative healing options than anything mainstream medicine has to offer.

Marc, I agree with you that at the root of electrical sensitivity is chronic infection and toxic overload.  I'm sure you've posted it before, but what were the main things you did to address these issues?

I hate it when persons do read superficial, and lay words in my mouth I never uttered.

On Pagina300 there are a large number of english remarks by a person in Australia. Perhaps his *english* is not what Bob can understand.

I have never ever claimed a 100% solution.
But a number of persons now can leave their home, travel with public transport and sleep in hotels full of Wifi.
Others can work again in offices where everybody works *wireless*.

Although many are not harrassed anymore by mobile phone masts, DECT base stations and Wifi or Wlan, they may still *feel* certain magnetic fields (when longer exposed) and some *dirty air* by f.i. certain spotlights in showrooms.

My therapy of 30 points was also assembled with tips from others, and is based on 15 years of try and error.
Some things helped, others did not. We now have additional points, but many finf 30 points already too much.
With my excellent special measuring equipment, I was able to find additional elektrosmog sources, generally not known by electrosensitives, some of which I find very dangerous, more than the well-known.

So, now everybody can start its own 15 year journey to find what is helpful or not.

I could only dachieve this because my wife was heavily electrosensitive, and at a certain moment we had to escape from the Netherlands to Belgium. There my wife had the idea that she never ever could live in the Netherlands again, in a city, in an appartment, surrounded by many mobil phone masts, DECT and Wlan.
But we do now the last five years, without any problem.

My main goal was to cure my wife. That I can help others also, is a side issue.

I could also prove that electrosensitives are not crazy, and that their *feelings* are quite real, although the standard meters do not show anything.
Now I shall remain quiet.

Charles, don't stop sharing what you've learned just because one person disagrees.  I for one would like to hear more about how you healed your wife and others.  If you want, email me at russel395 @ yahoo . com.  Would love to be able to pick your brain about how I might get rid of my ES.

On July  5, "Russ [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Marc, I agree with you that at the root of electrical sensitivity is chronic
> infection and toxic overload.  I'm sure you've posted it before, but what
> were the main things you did to address these issues?

The main things I did back then are documented on this page:

  http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/cases/MarcMartin.html

Marc

On July  5, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On July  5, "Russ [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Marc, I agree with you that at the root of electrical sensitivity is chronic
> > infection and toxic overload.  I'm sure you've posted it before, but what
> > were the main things you did to address these issues?
>
> The main things I did back then are documented on this page:
>
>   http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/cases/MarcMartin.html

Although since then, all of the CRT monitors in my house and work
have been replaced with LCD monitors.  :-)

Marc

Thanks Marc.  I had never heard of NDF.  So you did better with that than with the chelaters Andy Cutler recommends (ALA, DMPS, DMSO...I think)?  I'm curious what your reaction was to the typical Cutler recommended chelaters and if you have any thoughts on why the NDF worked better for you.  Did you also take the Bioray LiverLife product which they suggest taking with NDF?

Same story. Charles makes a statement, this time on Marie Christine. I ask for references, but get none.
I can read Dutch and only find positive stories on his website. Where are the neutral/negative? Reading the websites at least suggests a 100% score.

Now, how can we get this to a higher level.

In my opinion it would be a shame to not share your 15 year experience with the large community. Writing down experiences on a Dutch website that is hardly read (his own words) and taking long discussions on a forum is a waste of time that could be better used in writing down your experience in a scientific paper.

I am experienced in this and offer you to review it, in particular the math and statistics part, if you like. Win-Win I would say, since it saves me 15 years of trial and error ;-). Once the paper is there you can raise it to avoid discussions with people like me and gets much more respected and most important, you reach a much wider audience that suffers from ES.

http://www.minderstraling.nl/Rapporten/EHS_Marie_Christine_Testimony_I_m_no_longe_electrosensitive.pdf

I worked earlier with Audio CD's which contained frequencies, but now these frequencies, Rife as well as Clark are contained in the ClaeSmog, together with other information.

http://www.minderstraling.nl/Rapporten/EHSBlog.jpg
On that forum a lot of my 30 points plan was discussed.
But now the forum is dead.

Now I am finished, since nobody is interested.
If one has read my 30 points plan seriously, certain questions must arise, but nobody asked them.
That way I can control if it is read completely.

Blabbermouthing is not serious.
Bye.

Thanks Charles for the pdf. Interesting piece of reading. But man you are frustrated. What stops you from publishing your knowledge, other than on a website that nobody reads?

One final remark.
There is a person on this list who has a standard ClaeSmog, as well as a stronger one.

But because of the fact that this person does use a lot of other *gizmo's* at the same time, a difference was not noted.
Perhaps this person is not *sick* enough.

Others do feel a difference instantly, even with the Springlife Polarizer, which is not available anymore.

On July  6, "charles [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> One final remark.
> There is a person on this list who has a standard ClaeSmog, as well as a
> stronger one.

Yes, I have these, but as has been noted in the past, if one has a problem with
heavy metal toxicity, using an energy device can have the unpleasant consequence
of stirring up metals that your livers/kidneys may not be able to handle.  Which would
make that person worse.  So oftentimes you need to combine energy devices with whatever
changes (diet, supplements, sauna, etc.) that will allow you to tolerate the energy device.

Marc

thanks, marc. 

On July  6, "Patricia [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> thanks, marc.
> that's a very helpful list.  i hope
> it's ok if i share it with others.  

Well sure... it's on a public website, after all.  That entire site (not written by me)
could be pretty helpful for some people:

  http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/

Marc

http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info

I just wanted to  THANK YOU Marc for the link. I've read alot on this page and I was already started with the swedish bitter he also used. exept i made it myself. got the recipe from the Maria Treben book, Gods Pharmacy.
I got rid of my parasites a couple of weeks ago.. Did a herbal parasite cleanse this winter but it did obvious not help.  my new doctor told me to use 2 packs of Vermox with one week in between. I feel much stronger and not so sensitive now. Those parasites really drained my energy, including minerals, vitamins, and who knows what not.
So now i just want to get even BETTER!

Cheers

wow!  that's GOOD TO KNOW!  

Has anyone here had a 'tingling' sensation
on the surface of their skin that seems to
come and go?  every time i went outside,
the tingling would seem to recur.  

i had a tick in my leg and i began having
that sensation... finally i dug deep and got
the tick out and the sensation stopped - for
a while.  

i was weeding the other day and it is back
now.  i don't see a tick anywhere, so i am
wondering if it is something that could
sometimes manifest as a cramp, and at
other times tingling.  ?  it feels rather
'electric' both times.  

love, patricia

On July 13, "Hawk [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info
>
> I just wanted to  THANK YOU Marc for the link.

You're welcome -- he did a good job on that website, plus it's free.  :-)

Marc

patricia i've had many type of tingling sensation.

Once right after my energy sensitivity went crazy i was visiting north of Norway for a month.  Part of the world wide haarp antenna system is placed there. I had my iphone on flight modus laying on the table next to me. I was sitting iin a chair meditating in the mornings. and i noticed a frequency that came regularly. like a buzz. i am positive this was either the haarp or the iphone. this was imposible to notice without me meditating, it was like this frequency was on a timer. it came very regularly.

i believe energy sensations can also come from other dimensions. like tuning, communication or whatever, who knows what is going on beyond our eyesight and from the above we are not aware of ,,, yet..
it does not always have to be technology. This also goes with voices inside the head too. I speak by experience.

 - hawk