Prevagen

I saw something on prevagen helping normalize calcium proteins the in the brain.
Kathy

 The problem may be aetic acid, which is

is one of the simplest carboxylic acids. It is an important chemical reagent and industrial chemical, mainly used in the production of cellulose acetate mainly for photographic film and polyvinyl acetate for wood glue, as well as synthetic fibres and fabrics. In the food industry, acetic acid is used under the food additive code E260 as an acidity regulator and as a condiment & food additive

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I think this is reaching into a very toxic   pot.  (Magnets would be safer.) Hmm......so we have sodium chloride, see below. then Edta, which is a heavy metal chelator.......only works IF the body has LOTS and LOTS of the GOOOOD MINERALS...as it will pull out Iodine, Magnesium, ect.....and if thyroid/adrenals are low, the body isn't able to absorb properly, even if given these minerals. Putting the cart before the horse kind of thing. I can tell you from both personal experienceand seeing it happen to so many others, that those who use chelators without spendingsome SERIOUS time re storing the body's mineral stores, end up VERY sick.   Recombinant DNA vectors capable of expressing apoaequorin in E ... www.google.com/patents/US5162227You +1'd this publicly. UndoA gene which codes for the protein apoaequorin is disclosed along with recombinant DNA vectors containing this gene Prevagen's active ingredient is  a new use for a well-known calcium-binding protein called “apoaequorin” which is found in a certain species of jellyfish And on top the recombinant DNA factors surrounding the main ingredient in Prevagen, this means "they probably PLAYED with the genesin this ingredient from jellyfish...because that IS what recombinant DNA means. IT is what they use in regular MILK.....recombinant DNA!And on top of this, do ya think by chance, even if they hadn't played with the gene in the jellyfish, ya think they got the jellyfish from CLEAN un mercury poisoned waters?  sodium chloride. n. A colorless or white crystalline compound, NaCl, used in the manufacture of chemicals and as a food preservative and seasoning- And this is also usedin regular table salt, which ALSO happens to contain the not lovely heavy metal called: Aluminum!Wasn't this one of the reasons you changed your table salt to sea salt? AND, last reason: anytime I see mainstream and major pharmacuetal all over a product, I tend to get a bit suspicious.  P.S. S. Did you know that the body NEEDS A WHOLE BUNCH OF MAGNESIUM, AND NOT SO MUCH CALCIUM? That if the body doesn't have enugh Magnesium, it can't USE the Calcium?  There ya have it.  My opinion.  HOpe this helps. Love Ya! Elizabeth
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I saw something on prevagen helping normalize calcium proteins the in the brain.

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 The problem may be aetic acid, which is



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Hi, Elizabeth and Kathy,

I think Kathy is talking about the calcium which is leaking out due to emfs, isn't she?  Aren't you, Kathy?  (Maybe not--I don't know if this is an ongoing thread or not; I may be missing some of the discussion.)  If Kathy is talking about calcium leaking from the blood-brain barrier, (caused by emfs), magnesium might not work; [it didn't for me].  Magnesium blocks too much calcium from getting to the heart and blood vessels.  Magnesium and *that type* of calcium channel blocker is usually good for people with high blood pressure.  People with calcium leaking from the blood brain barrier usually have low blood pressure.  Or, at least, that used to be the thinking (I have not had the time in the past 2 years to keep up with current research regarding this subject).  People with potassium leaking are the ones who usually have high bp. 


What I am trying to say is: there are channel blockers and then there are channel blockers.  Not all channel blockers appear to block the same way.  Not all channel blockers block tight junctions, which (I presume, because it has worked for me) seem to be the problem in ES.  Also, the studies done on ES in the late 90s mentioned that emfs open the tight junctions in the brain's barrier (which is the cause of the calcium leaking).  Calcium isn't present *in* the brain cells, only in the tjs lining the bbb.


Prevagen might be helpful for this, but I agree with Elizabeth that prevagen might not be good in the long run.  I think I tried this med in 2003 or 2004.  If that was the drug I am thinking of, it did help me, but I had other problems with it (which I have since forgotten). 


Kathy, the real cure to calcium leaking due to tight junction permeability is finding a channel blocker which works for that specific purpose (closing tight junctions).  Prevagen might do that.  Prevagen has, tho, as Elizabeth said, downsides.  Most meds do.  The natural tight junction blockers I use do, too.  [I use manganese and taurine.  You have to be very careful not to take too much; manganese, itself, can be a toxic metal.] 


I assume that Prevagen does work due to its containing lots of salt.  (The taurine I use locks in salt--it is a sodium chloride blocker--and I also use a little more salt--sea salt--in my diet than normal, as well.).  If prevagen is also a heavy metal chelator, it could be pulling out metals which are competing with normal metal balance, therefore helping to keep manganese in balance.  Just a thought as to why it might work.  I am not sure that heavy metal chelators pull out all good minerals, but I would also take extra minerals, in case, as Elizabeth said. 


I am just giving info here.  It is your call whether you think this is a product you'd like to try or not.  I personally don't do meds when I can take something natural and I can avoid doctors.  ;)  However, some here, would rather have a doctor involved in making decisions for them and so they prefer docs and drugs.  That is a personal choice.  It is a fact that people are living longer due to drugs.  (Not always healthier, tho--it is a fact that some drugs lead to yet other health problems.)  One has to weigh considerations according to what they can handle and live with.  Everyone has different needs and abilities.  Taking prevagen for a short while might allow you to see whether this type of product works for you--insight into whether this is really your problem.  There are various considerations, but only you can decide what is right for you to do.  

Whatever you decide, good luck; I hope it works out,
Diane



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I think this is reaching into a very toxic   pot.  (Magnets would be safer.) Hmm......so we have sodium chloride, see below. then Edta, which is a heavy metal chelator.......only works IF the body has LOTS and LOTS of the GOOOOD MINERALS...as it will pull out Iodine, Magnesium, ect.....and if thyroid/adrenals are low, the body isn't able to absorb properly, even if given these minerals. Putting the cart before the horse kind of thing. I can tell you from both personal experienceand seeing it happen to so many others, that those who use chelators without spendingsome SERIOUS time re storing the body's mineral stores, end up VERY sick.   Recombinant DNA vectors capable of expressing apoaequorin in E ... www.google.com/patents/US5162227You +1'd this publicly. UndoA gene which codes for the protein apoaequorin is disclosed along with recombinant DNA vectors containing this gene Prevagen's active ingredient is  a new use for a well-known calcium-binding
 protein called “apoaequorin” which is found in a certain species of jellyfish And on top the recombinant DNA factors surrounding the main ingredient in Prevagen, this means "they probably PLAYED with the genesin this ingredient from jellyfish...because that IS what recombinant DNA means. IT is what they use in regular MILK.....recombinant DNA!And on top of this, do ya think by chance, even if they hadn't played with the gene in the jellyfish, ya think they got the jellyfish from CLEAN un mercury poisoned waters?  sodium chloride. n. A colorless or white crystalline compound, NaCl, used in the manufacture of chemicals and as a food preservative and seasoning- And this is also usedin regular table salt, which ALSO happens to contain the not lovely heavy metal called: Aluminum!Wasn't this one of the reasons you changed your table salt to sea salt? AND, last reason: anytime I see mainstream and major pharmacuetal all over a product, I tend to get a bit
 suspicious.  P.S. S. Did you know that the body NEEDS A WHOLE BUNCH OF MAGNESIUM, AND NOT SO MUCH CALCIUM? That if the body doesn't have enugh Magnesium, it can't USE the Calcium?  There ya have it.  My opinion.  HOpe this helps. Love Ya! Elizabeth
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I saw something on prevagen helping normalize calcium proteins the in the brain.

Kathy



The problem may be aetic acid, which is



is one of the simplest carboxylic acids. It is an important chemical reagent and industrial chemical, mainly used in the production of cellulose acetate mainly for photographic film and polyvinyl acetate for wood glue, as well as synthetic fibres and fabrics. In the food industry, acetic acid is used under the food additive code E260 as an acidity regulator and as a condiment & food additive



And has Tris buffer:  most commonly used buffer in biological research. One of the most important applications is the use as an electrophoresis buffer for polyacrylamide and agarose gel electrophoresis, respectively. Tris should not be used at pH values under pH 7.2 or above pH 9.0. The pH value of a



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Hi Guys! There has to be something else out there to try. This product just screams toxic to me.   I had a copy of the product in the email, but this format doesn't show it. EDTA is listed in the ingredients and is  a heavy metal chelator, and DOES pull out the good minerals such as Magnesium, as well as the bad. Kathy, do you happen to know what your blood pressure is?  If you were here, I'd take it, I bought a blood pressure monitor cuff some months back.  I do know heart patients have been given Potassium in the ER to stabilize the heart. This would go along with what Diane just said, about High Blood Pressure. Also, High blood pressure is thyroid related, usually over active thyroid. And low blood pressure is low adrenals.  There are always safer options. First thing I check is whether the person is supporting their adrenals and thyroid. These two glands play a HUGE role in health. And specifically the thyroid, regulates the body's metabolism. This is important because if the body isn't able to properly metabolize foods/nutrients, then even the purist and nutritious stuff may NOT be used or up taked or absorbed by the body.  As for me, I just don't like the risks of adding to the body's toxic load.  Lizzie    
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I think Kathy is talking about the calcium which is leaking out due to emfs, isn't she?  Aren't you, Kathy?  (Maybe not--I don't know if this is an ongoing thread or not; I may be missing some of the discussion.)  If Kathy is talking about calcium leaking from the blood-brain barrier, (caused by emfs), magnesium might not work; [it didn't for me].  Magnesium blocks too much calcium from getting to the heart and blood vessels.  Magnesium and *that type* of calcium channel blocker is usually good for people with high blood pressure.  People with calcium leaking from the blood brain barrier usually have low blood pressure.  Or, at least, that used to be the thinking (I have not had the time in the past 2 years to keep up with current research regarding this subject).  People with potassium leaking are the ones who usually have high bp.  



What I am trying to say is: there are channel blockers and then there are channel blockers.  Not all channel blockers appear to block the same way.  Not all channel blockers block tight junctions, which (I presume, because it has worked for me) seem to be the problem in ES.  Also, the studies done on ES in the late 90s mentioned that emfs open the tight junctions in the brain's barrier (which is the cause of the calcium leaking).  Calcium isn't present *in* the brain cells, only in the tjs lining the bbb.



Prevagen might be helpful for this, but I agree with Elizabeth that prevagen might not be good in the long run.  I think I tried this med in 2003 or 2004.  If that was the drug I am thinking of, it did help me, but I had other problems with it (which I have since forgotten).  



Kathy, the real cure to calcium leaking due to tight junction permeability is finding a channel blocker which works for that specific purpose (closing tight junctions).  Prevagen might do that.  Prevagen has, tho, as Elizabeth said, downsides.  Most meds do.  The natural tight junction blockers I use do, too.  [I use manganese and taurine.  You have to be very careful not to take too much; manganese, itself, can be a toxic metal.]  



I assume that Prevagen does work due to its containing lots of salt.  (The taurine I use locks in salt--it is a sodium chloride blocker--and I also use a little more salt--sea salt--in my diet than normal, as well.).  If prevagen is also a heavy metal chelator, it could be pulling out metals which are competing with normal metal balance, therefore helping to keep manganese in balance.  Just a thought as to why it might work.  I am not sure that heavy metal chelators pull out all good minerals, but I would also take extra minerals, in case, as Elizabeth said.  



I am just giving info here.  It is your call whether you think this is a product you'd like to try or not.  I personally don't do meds when I can take something natural and I can avoid doctors.  ;)  However, some here, would rather have a doctor involved in making decisions for them and so they prefer docs and drugs.  That is a personal choice.  It is a fact that people are living longer due to drugs.  (Not always healthier, tho--it is a fact that some drugs lead to yet other health problems.)  One has to weigh considerations according to what they can handle and live with.  Everyone has different needs and abilities.  Taking prevagen for a short while might allow you to see whether this type of product works for you--insight into whether this is really your problem.  There are various considerations, but only you can decide what is right for you to do.  



Whatever you decide, good luck; I hope it works out,

Diane



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I think this is reaching into a very toxic   pot.  (Magnets would be safer.) Hmm......so we have sodium chloride, see below. then Edta, which is a heavy metal chelator.......only works IF the body has LOTS and LOTS of the GOOOOD MINERALS...as it will pull out Iodine, Magnesium, ect.....and if thyroid/adrenals are low, the body isn't able to absorb properly, even if given these minerals. Putting the cart before the horse kind of thing. I can tell you from both personal experienceand seeing it happen to so many others, that those who use chelators without spendingsome SERIOUS time re storing the body's mineral stores, end up VERY sick.   Recombinant DNA vectors capable of expressing apoaequorin in E ... www.google.com/patents/US5162227You +1'd this publicly. UndoA gene which codes for the protein apoaequorin is disclosed along with recombinant DNA vectors containing this gene Prevagen's active ingredient is  a new use for a well-known calcium-binding

 protein called “apoaequorin” which is found in a certain species of jellyfish And on top the recombinant DNA factors surrounding the main ingredient in Prevagen, this means "they probably PLAYED with the genesin this ingredient from jellyfish...because that IS what recombinant DNA means. IT is what they use in regular MILK.....recombinant DNA!And on top of this, do ya think by chance, even if they hadn't played with the gene in the jellyfish, ya think they got the jellyfish from CLEAN un mercury poisoned waters?  sodium chloride. n. A colorless or white crystalline compound, NaCl, used in the manufacture of chemicals and as a food preservative and seasoning- And this is also usedin regular table salt, which ALSO happens to contain the not lovely heavy metal called: Aluminum!Wasn't this one of the reasons you changed your table salt to sea salt? AND, last reason: anytime I see mainstream and major pharmacuetal all over a product, I tend to get a bit

 suspicious.  P.S. S. Did you know that the body NEEDS A WHOLE BUNCH OF MAGNESIUM, AND NOT SO MUCH CALCIUM? That if the body doesn't have enugh Magnesium, it can't USE the Calcium?  There ya have it.  My opinion.  HOpe this helps. Love Ya! Elizabeth

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I saw something on prevagen helping normalize calcium proteins the in the brain.



Kathy



The problem may be aetic acid, which is



is one of the simplest carboxylic acids. It is an important chemical reagent and industrial chemical, mainly used in the production of cellulose acetate mainly for photographic film and polyvinyl acetate for wood glue, as well as synthetic fibres and fabrics. In the food industry, acetic acid is used under the food additive code E260 as an acidity regulator and as a condiment & food additive



And has Tris buffer:  most commonly used buffer in biological research. One of the most important applications is the use as an electrophoresis buffer for polyacrylamide and agarose gel electrophoresis, respectively. Tris should not be used at pH values under pH 7.2 or above pH 9.0. The pH value of a



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