Can someone explain to me why a silver-lined hat or hoodie does not need to be grounded? I would have thought that being so close to the body it would act as a conductor and make things worse?
Thanks for clarifying, Aline |
whats worse radiation to your brain from a big city or electric fields from powerlines. It all depends on the situation. Dont wear the hat in your home...
On 2011-11-19, at 1:50 PM, alinepapille wrote: > Can someone explain to me why a silver-lined hat or hoodie does not need to be grounded? I would have thought that being so close to the body it would act as a conductor and make things worse? > > Thanks for clarifying, > Aline > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
Hi Robert,
Can you explain the thinking behind this? Thanks, Aline --- In [hidden email], Robert Williams <robert_connolly@...> wrote: > > whats worse radiation to your brain from a big city or electric fields from powerlines. It all depends on the situation. Dont wear the hat in your home... > > > On 2011-11-19, at 1:50 PM, alinepapille wrote: > > > Can someone explain to me why a silver-lined hat or hoodie does not need to be grounded? I would have thought that being so close to the body it would act as a conductor and make things worse? > > > > Thanks for clarifying, > > Aline > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Hi Robert, I don't understand your comment. Can you explain the principles behind this?
Thanks, Aline --- In [hidden email], Robert Williams <robert_connolly@...> wrote: > > whats worse radiation to your brain from a big city or electric fields from powerlines. It all depends on the situation. Dont wear the hat in your home... > > > On 2011-11-19, at 1:50 PM, alinepapille wrote: > > > Can someone explain to me why a silver-lined hat or hoodie does not need to be grounded? I would have thought that being so close to the body it would act as a conductor and make things worse? > > > > Thanks for clarifying, > > Aline > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Hi, Aline,
A lot of what we work with in having ES is very confusing and intuitive or experimental. I personally cannot understand why many of the things people here do work, but as long as they work, that is okay! lol I have made my own tin-foil hats (heavy duty baking aluminum) on occasion; sometimes for under sun bonnets, for instance. They work if not touching my neck or scalp. (In other words, you need "big hair"--otherwise, where they touch, they'll burn. I have experimented with jewelry.... I can wear metal jewelry *outside* of my coat in winter or over a heavy sweater. The jewelry (silver or stainless, usually), would otherwise bother me if it were touching my skin. However, I found when I was reacting a lot that when I wore a chunky metal chain with heart dangles on it over a heavy knit sweater, it actually drew emfs away from my head and body! (Or at least that was what it felt like.) I am guessing, if you wear the hoodie so it doesn't touch your skin, it will work. Maybe with a heavy sweater. OR maybe it will work regardless, because it is made in such a way to take things into account. I have also tried metallic socks and gloves (to keep warm). They too worked as long as I wore a layer under them. Good luck, Diane ________________________________ From: alinepapille <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: [eSens] Personal shielding garments not being grounded Can someone explain to me why a silver-lined hat or hoodie does not need to be grounded? I would have thought that being so close to the body it would act as a conductor and make things worse? Thanks for clarifying, Aline ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Diane,
Yes, I believe in trial and error but I'm on a very limited budget so want to get as much info as possible before trying out a hoodie! You're so right about things being confusing - impossible to know what is causing what without a leap of intuition sometimes. I am really bothered by fluorescents and my Dad just told me that you can't even buy filament bulbs anymore in the UK (and I heard the same is true in Canada). What a nightmare. Aloha, Aline --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi, Aline, > > A lot of what we work with in having ES is very confusing and intuitive or experimental. I personally cannot understand why many of the things people here do work, but as long as they work, that is okay! lol > > > I have made my own tin-foil hats (heavy duty baking aluminum) on occasion; sometimes for under sun bonnets, for instance. They work if not touching my neck or scalp. (In other words, you need "big hair"--otherwise, where they touch, they'll burn. I have experimented with jewelry.... I can wear metal jewelry *outside* of my coat in winter or over a heavy sweater. The jewelry (silver or stainless, usually), would otherwise bother me if it were touching my skin. However, I found when I was reacting a lot that when I wore a chunky metal chain with heart dangles on it over a heavy knit sweater, it actually drew emfs away from my head and body! (Or at least that was what it felt like.) > > > I am guessing, if you wear the hoodie so it doesn't touch your skin, it will work. Maybe with a heavy sweater. OR maybe it will work regardless, because it is made in such a way to take things into account. > > > I have also tried metallic socks and gloves (to keep warm). They too worked as long as I wore a layer under them. > > Good luck, > Diane > > > > ________________________________ > From: alinepapille <haikuron@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:50 PM > Subject: [eSens] Personal shielding garments not being grounded > > Can someone explain to me why a silver-lined hat or hoodie does not need to be grounded? I would have thought that being so close to the body it would act as a conductor and make things worse? > > Thanks for clarifying, > Aline > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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In a metal shield, charges move to cancel the incoming
electric field. For microwaves this results in most of the energy being reflected. However, right at the edges of the shield, the field will be stronger. This may not be a problem but if your neck or shoulder is sensitive, this could get worse. Grounding has 2 official functions. One is for safety in case the shield is touched by a live electric wire. The other is to block low to medium frequency electric fields. If you are reacting to electric fields an ungrounded shield is pretty useless, though a true earth gound is not the only solution. Simply running a wire from a shield facing the source to a second shield behind you will allow the electric field to be reduced between the shields. There will be a small magentic field in the wire but unless there is a path to complete a circuit (which might include capacitative coupling) the current will be very small. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:08 PM, alinepapille <[hidden email]> wrote: > ** > > > Hi Robert, > > Can you explain the thinking behind this? > > Thanks, > Aline > > > --- In [hidden email], Robert Williams <robert_connolly@...> wrote: > > > > whats worse radiation to your brain from a big city or electric fields > from powerlines. It all depends on the situation. Dont wear the hat in your > home... > > > > > > On 2011-11-19, at 1:50 PM, alinepapille wrote: > > > > > Can someone explain to me why a silver-lined hat or hoodie does not > need to be grounded? I would have thought that being so close to the body > it would act as a conductor and make things worse? > > > > > > Thanks for clarifying, > > > Aline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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> I am really bothered by fluorescents and my Dad just told me that you can't
> even buy filament bulbs anymore in the UK (and I heard the same is true in Canada). > What a nightmare. Seems like incandescent bulbs are still available in Canada: http://savethebulb.org/canada-rolls-back-the-incandescent-ban They are definitely still available in the USA -- I just bought one yesterday! Marc |
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I have severe pain in my gut exposed to the radiation here and finally taped some reflective metalized aluminum insulation that you would get at the hardware store. Two layers so really 4 cause every sheet is two layers..
It has diminished my pain in a big way. Not pretty and makes me look heavy but HEY I'm not in massive pain and causing more damage to my immune system. (located in the gut) Loni --- On Sat, 11/19/11, alinepapille <[hidden email]> wrote: From: alinepapille <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Personal shielding garments not being grounded To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 11:50 AM Can someone explain to me why a silver-lined hat or hoodie does not need to be grounded? I would have thought that being so close to the body it would act as a conductor and make things worse? Thanks for clarifying, Aline [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks Bruno.
So grounding does not make any difference to the intensity of the RF? I just had several awful nights and feel absolutely fried. Strangely I recently had two 'normal' nights. I am now starting to think that I am being affecting by stray current because the RF is not very high and I feel OK during the day (when I wear rubber slippers). There is an electric substation about half a mile away. I am basically between the substation and an 8-mile strip of oceanfront town (Kihei) so if current is returning to the substation (is this what happens?) it would be worse in this area than any. I was living at the other end of Kihei and slept like a baby. I'm going to try putting foil under my futon and grounding it. I previously tried foil without grounding it and it definitely didn't help! Thanks! Aline --- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: > > In a metal shield, charges move to cancel the incoming > electric field. For microwaves this results in most of > the energy being reflected. > > However, right at the edges of the shield, the field will be > stronger. This may not be a problem but if your neck > or shoulder is sensitive, this could get worse. > > Grounding has 2 official functions. One is for safety in > case the shield is touched by a live electric wire. The other > is to block low to medium frequency electric fields. > If you are reacting to electric fields an ungrounded shield > is pretty useless, though a true earth gound is not the > only solution. Simply running a wire from a shield facing > the source to a second shield behind you will allow the > electric field to be reduced between the shields. There will > be a small magentic field in the wire but unless there is > a path to complete a circuit (which might include capacitative > coupling) the current will be very small. > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:08 PM, alinepapille <haikuron@...> wrote: > |
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:05 PM, alinepapille <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ** > > > Thanks Bruno. > > So grounding does not make any difference to the intensity of the RF? > > I hope I didn't say that. In the microwave frequencies a typical ground wire will have no effect. A short ground strap can change things. At lower frequencies you can create or cure a resonance using ground wires and/or straps. Unfortunately it's hard to know what the culprit is, but a substation will cause RF and ground currents, and could vary a lot with nearby electricity usage and with weather effects. > I just had several awful nights and feel absolutely fried. Strangely I > recently had two 'normal' nights. I am now starting to think that I am > being affecting by stray current because the RF is not very high and I feel > OK during the day (when I wear rubber slippers). > > There is an electric substation about half a mile away. I am basically > between the substation and an 8-mile strip of oceanfront town (Kihei) so if > current is returning to the substation (is this what happens?) it would be > worse in this area than any. I was living at the other end of Kihei and > slept like a baby. > > I'm going to try putting foil under my futon and grounding it. I > previously tried foil without grounding it and it definitely didn't help! > > Thanks! > > Aline > > --- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: > > > > In a metal shield, charges move to cancel the incoming > > electric field. For microwaves this results in most of > > the energy being reflected. > > > > However, right at the edges of the shield, the field will be > > stronger. This may not be a problem but if your neck > > or shoulder is sensitive, this could get worse. > > > > Grounding has 2 official functions. One is for safety in > > case the shield is touched by a live electric wire. The other > > is to block low to medium frequency electric fields. > > If you are reacting to electric fields an ungrounded shield > > is pretty useless, though a true earth gound is not the > > only solution. Simply running a wire from a shield facing > > the source to a second shield behind you will allow the > > electric field to be reduced between the shields. There will > > be a small magentic field in the wire but unless there is > > a path to complete a circuit (which might include capacitative > > coupling) the current will be very small. > > > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:08 PM, alinepapille <haikuron@...> wrote: > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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