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Obama plans to use a SATELLITE to cover NORTH AMERICA in 4G

Elysia Drew
Did anyone else hear about this? Any suggestions? I can't find anything about how powerful the signals from the LightSquared satellite alone are going to be. They launched it in Nov. 2010; not sure if it's "activated" yet. Just wondering if living in "mid-nowhere" will even be worth it if the radiation is coming from a satellite. 
http://www.4gnetwork.com/lightsquared-and-open-range-partner-to-deploy-4g-lte-wireless-broadband-to-rural-us-communities/

-E. Drew

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S Andreason
Elysia Drew wrote:
> Did anyone else hear about this?

I read it. They are proposing more towers on the ground, with satellite
to cover the dead zones.

We already have satellite services covering the dead zones!!!
The only difference is the frequency band they want to use.

> Just wondering if living in "mid-nowhere" will even be worth it if the radiation is coming from a satellite.
> http://www.4gnetwork.com/lightsquared-and-open-range-partner-to-deploy-4g-lte-wireless-broadband-to-rural-us-communities/
>  
We're already getting Lots of signals from lots of satellites, but if
you read the technical specs show as to how many billions of times
weaker the GPS satellite signals are compared to _terrestrial_ towers,
thereby causing the "drowning out" of the GPS signals from the proposed
ground based stations, then I can't muster up any concern about their
satellites.
All the concern is going to be about the rollout of G3, G4, WiMax,
SmartMeters, and all the new towers and new frequencies they want or
need to service all the new toys.

Focus on the tower placements. Avoid urban areas.

It is definitely still better to be living in the middle of nowhere.
Like in the National Forest up the road, where there is no cell phone
service.
There should be similar places "out west."

Stewart

http://seahorseCorral.org - Lambert Creek Horseback DVD - Tour trails
from the saddle, watch horses play.

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KathyB

How fast was 3G? Kathy


The LightSquared network offers a maximum data rate of over 100 MB per
 second,

 a
Boeing-built satellite that was launched in November 2010 into a
geostationary orbit over North America powers the satellite network.
Open Range provides WiMAX-based wireless broadband services to over
540 US communities

. WiMAX offers long range network connectivity of up
to 40 Mbits per second (approximately 5 MB per second) and offers voice
and data services for consumers through its Freedom 4G modem. Open range
 is headquartered in Greenwood Village, Colorado a


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Subject: Re: [eSens] Obama plans to use a SATELLITE to cover NORTH AMERICA in 4G
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      Elysia Drew wrote:

> Did anyone else hear about this?



I read it. They are proposing more towers on the ground, with satellite

to cover the dead zones.



We already have satellite services covering the dead zones!!!

The only difference is the frequency band they want to use.



> Just wondering if living in "mid-nowhere" will even be worth it if the radiation is coming from a satellite.

> http://www.4gnetwork.com/lightsquared-and-open-range-partner-to-deploy-4g-lte-wireless-broadband-to-rural-us-communities/

>  

We're already getting Lots of signals from lots of satellites, but if

you read the technical specs show as to how many billions of times

weaker the GPS satellite signals are compared to _terrestrial_ towers,

thereby causing the "drowning out" of the GPS signals from the proposed

ground based stations, then I can't muster up any concern about their

satellites.

All the concern is going to be about the rollout of G3, G4, WiMax,

SmartMeters, and all the new towers and new frequencies they want or

need to service all the new toys.



Focus on the tower placements. Avoid urban areas.



It is definitely still better to be living in the middle of nowhere.

Like in the National Forest up the road, where there is no cell phone

service.

There should be similar places "out west."



Stewart



http://seahorseCorral.org - Lambert Creek Horseback DVD - Tour trails

from the saddle, watch horses play.





   
     

   
   


 



 










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Re: Obama plans to use a SATELLITE to cover NORTH AMERICA in 4G

JamesH
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Lightsquared is not yet operational.  There is a big controversy, because it will interfere with GPS signals.  The airline industry as well as the U.S. military is very concerned about it.  Per an Aviation Week article --http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=busav&id=news/awx/2011/06/09/awx_06_09_2011_p0-334122.xml -- the Federal Aviation Administration has concluded that if Lightsquared is allowed to proceed, GPS is likely to be unavailable over the whole US East Coast.  

Because of this, it is unlikely they will be allowed to begin transmitting any time soon.

James
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glitterglitter13
But they tested the damn thing before they launched it, didn't they?  Where were these guys out of?  Because if that's the case, our little mystery of the three weeks at the end of October where the  EMF reading around here (west-range Colorado) was suddenly at _8_ and then dropped to legal level Nov. 1 is solved and we need a good lawyer.  

--- In [hidden email], JamesH <j7077-eagle@...> wrote:

>
> Lightsquared is not yet operational.  There is a big controversy, because it
> will interfere with GPS signals.  The airline industry as well as the U.S.
> military is very concerned about it.  Per an Aviation Week article
> --http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=busav&id=news/awx/2011/06/09/awx_06_09_2011_p0-334122.xml
> -- the Federal Aviation Administration has concluded that if Lightsquared is
> allowed to proceed, GPS is likely to be unavailable over the whole US East
> Coast.  
>
> Because of this, it is unlikely they will be allowed to begin transmitting
> any time soon.
>
> James
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://esens.966376.n3.nabble.com/Obama-plans-to-use-a-SATELLITE-to-cover-NORTH-AMERICA-in-4G-tp3155625p3156003.html
> Sent from the eSens mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Elysia Drew
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What's different w/ the LightSquared satellite & its terrestrial towers is that it's what will be providing WiMax. Obama promised that 98% of the country would have broadband Internet. The way he's providing it is to put 40,000 super-powerful 4G towers; about 1 every 10 miles, so that you can get hi-speed wifi literally ANYWHERE, so there really will be nowhere to go. That's why I'm concerned. 
-E. Drew

--- On Sat, 7/9/11, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Obama plans to use a SATELLITE to cover NORTH AMERICA in 4G
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 9:43 PM















 
 



 


   
     
     
      Elysia Drew wrote:

> Did anyone else hear about this?



I read it. They are proposing more towers on the ground, with satellite

to cover the dead zones.



We already have satellite services covering the dead zones!!!

The only difference is the frequency band they want to use.



> Just wondering if living in "mid-nowhere" will even be worth it if the radiation is coming from a satellite.

> http://www.4gnetwork.com/lightsquared-and-open-range-partner-to-deploy-4g-lte-wireless-broadband-to-rural-us-communities/

>  

We're already getting Lots of signals from lots of satellites, but if

you read the technical specs show as to how many billions of times

weaker the GPS satellite signals are compared to _terrestrial_ towers,

thereby causing the "drowning out" of the GPS signals from the proposed

ground based stations, then I can't muster up any concern about their

satellites.

All the concern is going to be about the rollout of G3, G4, WiMax,

SmartMeters, and all the new towers and new frequencies they want or

need to service all the new toys.



Focus on the tower placements. Avoid urban areas.



It is definitely still better to be living in the middle of nowhere.

Like in the National Forest up the road, where there is no cell phone

service.

There should be similar places "out west."



Stewart



http://seahorseCorral.org - Lambert Creek Horseback DVD - Tour trails

from the saddle, watch horses play.





   
     

   
   


 



 










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