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Hello everyone,
I'm new to the group. Our son has Type 1 Diabetes and we see a correlation between his blood sugars rising and exposure to EMF's. Even though doctors think we are crazy, we know what we know. I have been looking into protection against EMF's. There are lots of products out there and I have no way of comparing them. You kinda have to take their word for it... they all say they work, of course. I have looked into 2 companies so far and spoken with them: earthcalm and safeconnectplus. I would love any ideas from all of you about things that have worked. Worst of all, we have a smart meter. We are in TX and there's not a thing we can do about it getting rid of it... unless of course we don't want electricity. Thank you! Christy |
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> I have looked into 2 companies so far and spoken with them:
> earthcalm and safeconnectplus. I would love any ideas from > all of you about things that have worked. I've seen a few success stories with Earthcalm, and own some of their items, although I can't say that they've been all that helpful. Maybe a bit, but not much. I've never heard of Safe Connect Plus! Marc |
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30 day money back guarantee Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I have looked into 2 companies so far and spoken with them: > > earthcalm and safeconnectplus. I would love any ideas from > > all of you about things that have worked. > > I've seen a few success stories with Earthcalm, and own some > of their items, although I can't say that they've been all that > helpful. Maybe a bit, but not much. > > I've never heard of Safe Connect Plus! > > Marc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On June 22, Christy Lafferty <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Safeconnectplus.com > 30 day money back guarantee > > Sent from my iPhone Thanks, I'll take a look. We don't often see the "Sent from my iPhone" on this group... most people here can't stand being anywhere near an iPhone! :-) (and an iPhone is potentially just as big of a problem for your family as a smart meter, I'd think) Marc |
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Even with a filter, you think?
Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > On June 22, Christy Lafferty <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Safeconnectplus.com > > 30 day money back guarantee > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Thanks, I'll take a look. > > We don't often see the "Sent from my iPhone" on this group... most > people here can't stand being anywhere near an iPhone! :-) > > (and an iPhone is potentially just as big of a problem for your > family as a smart meter, I'd think) > > Marc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On June 22, Christy Lafferty <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Even with a filter, you think? Well, filters and EMF protection devices can only do so much. The other part of the solution is to look at reducing the amount of EMF you're being exposed to in the first place. And yes, I realize that there are all sorts of devices sold that claim to make cellphone radiation less harmful. And yet it doesn't seem like anyone on this group has ever had much luck with that. In the end, the solution always seems to be: -- not use any cellphone at all -- use a low-tech phone for emergency purposes only There has been some very limited anecdotal evidence here that Droid phones are more tolerable than iPhones, which indicates to me that it may not even be the wireless communication that is causing people's reactions, but rather the electronics inside the phone. Marc |
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Hi Christy and Marc,
>> Even with a filter, you think? >> "Filters" and protection stickers/chips/etc don't stop the wireless signal from reaching the tower. I would really like to see some research on if these "modified" signals still cause the health effects the science is showing does happen. (Type 3 diabetes, heart arythmia, DNA breakage, calcium (ion) loss). I can't see a mechanism for it (modified wireless) to be okay and healthy... > There has been some very limited anecdotal evidence here that > Droid phones are more tolerable than iPhones, which indicates > to me that it may not even be the wireless communication that > is causing people's reactions, but rather the electronics inside > the phone. > Edit that from "may not even be" to "may not only be" Certainly, the electronics emit at a much lower power density, but they still emit patterns that trigger Electro Sensitivity. Stewart http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs2.html - measuring emissions from various devices. |
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I don't use cellphones, but explain what's different in the electronics of a droid compared to iPhone? We have a cheap phone we don't turn on unless of emergency too. So, aren't we feeling the signal from those phones when we're close to others in public? I was in line at our bank & felt okay, no wi-fi there. But when I got behind someone w a active phone, I felt sensations. Kathy From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] New to the group--Diabetes and EMF's There has been some very limited anecdotal evidence here that Droid phones are more tolerable than iPhones, which indicates to me that it may not even be the wireless communication that is causing people's reactions, but rather the electronics inside the phone. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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If you have an iPhone would you be willing to try a new device for a week or two & see if you notice a difference for the rest of us? I'll send you one of ours to demo, I've learned you don't have to take the backing off with this technology just make sure it's covering the back & both sides. So for you the rubber casing is holding it in place not the stick-um unnder the backing. We'll have other models later send me your address & kick the tires. Gordy [hidden email] --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On June 22, Christy Lafferty <legacyportraiture@...> wrote: > > Even with a filter, you think? > > Well, filters and EMF protection devices can only do so much. > The other part of the solution is to look at reducing the amount of > EMF you're being exposed to in the first place. > > And yes, I realize that there are all sorts of devices sold that claim > to make cellphone radiation less harmful. And yet it doesn't seem > like anyone on this group has ever had much luck with that. In > the end, the solution always seems to be: > > -- not use any cellphone at all > -- use a low-tech phone for emergency purposes only > > There has been some very limited anecdotal evidence here that > Droid phones are more tolerable than iPhones, which indicates > to me that it may not even be the wireless communication that > is causing people's reactions, but rather the electronics inside > the phone. > > Marc > |
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> I don't use cellphones, but explain what's different in the
> electronics of a droid compared to iPhone? I don't know... I've just seen more than one person here complain about how terrible it is to be around other people using their iPhones (including myself), and yet a couple people have noted that they have NOT noticed anything terrible about being around other people using their Droid phones (including myself). This indicates to me that the electronics inside the phones might be a major factor. There is the same sort of variability in all electronics. Like I've said before, I have one Blu-ray player that I do not notice anything from at all. While I have another that feels like a "death-ray" at 10 feet away (and no, it doesn't have any wireless capability, so that's not it). Marc |
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Christy,
Please watch this. You may want to reconsider using an iPhone. If you must I would use the phone Marc. uses. It's much safer. He said his uses a weaker signal & I understand he only uses his for emergencies. Dr. Davis explained it's the phone searching for the signal every few seconds. If you keep the phone anywhere on your body, you absorb 4 - 8 times more radiation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-XSoG3bGNk A 5 minute extract from Dr Devra Davis's presentation SHOWS BRAIN CELL DEATH This is a (1 hour) presentation when you have time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNNSztN7wJc&feature=related She has records of a vegetarian woman with breast cancer, multiple primary tumors. She kept her phone in a bra. Kathy - From: S Andreason <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] New to the group--Diabetes and EMF's Hi Christy and Marc, >> Even with a filter, you think? >> "Filters" and protection stickers/chips/etc don't stop the wireless signal from reaching the tower. I would really like to see some research on if these "modified" signals still cause the health effects the science is showing does happen. (Type 3 diabetes, heart arythmia, DNA breakage, calcium (ion) loss). I can't see a mechanism for it (modified wireless) to be okay and healthy... > There has been some very limited anecdotal evidence here that > Droid phones are more tolerable than iPhones, which indicates > to me that it may not even be the wireless communication that > is causing people's reactions, but rather the electronics inside > the phone. > Edit that from "may not even be" to "may not only be" Certainly, the electronics emit at a much lower power density, but they still emit patterns that trigger Electro Sensitivity. Stewart http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs2.html - measuring emissions from various devices. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On June 22, Energy Medicine Technologies <[hidden email]> wrote:
> If you have an iPhone would you be willing to try a new device for a > week or two & see if you notice a difference for the rest of us? Actually, I don't have an iPhone... anyone else here have an iPhone in their household AND are sensitive to it? Marc |
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Gordy,
It is Christy at <[hidden email]> that uses an iPhone. From: Energy Medicine Technologies <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: New to the group--Diabetes and EMF's Marc If you have an iPhone would you be willing to try a new device for a week or two & see if you notice a difference for the rest of us? I'll send you one of ours to demo, I've learned you don't have to take the backing off with this technology just make sure it's covering the back & both sides. So for you the rubber casing is holding it in place not the stick-um unnder the backing. We'll have other models later send me your address & kick the tires. Gordy [hidden email] --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > On June 22, Christy Lafferty <legacyportraiture@...> wrote: > > Even with a filter, you think? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On June 22, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Gordy, > It is Christy at <[hidden email]> that uses an iPhone. But it sounds like she has no problem using it. Gordy needs someone who gets symptoms from an iPhone, to see if this new protection device relieves those symptoms. Marc |
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Wonder if to the GPS or 4G gives off more? In 2008 second generation iPhone. can operate on third-generation (3G) cellular networks and has a GPS receiver. Owners of the original iPhone got the opportunity to upgrade the software The 2.0 software gives the old phones new functions, but without the GPS receiver or 3G network capability. 2009 was the year that Apple launched the iPhone 3GS. The 3GS iPhone models have more storage capacity than earlier iPhones. Another added feature is a compass, : the iPhone 4. The new device sports two cameras -- one on the front and one on the back. The iPhone 4 has a retina display with a better resolution It also manages battery power and system security. The operating system synchs the phone with your computer, a process that requires a dock much like the one us Kathy From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] New to the group--Diabetes and EMF's This indicates to me that the electronics inside the phones might be a major factor. There is the same sort of variability in all electronics. Like I've said before, I have one Blu-ray player that I do not notice anything from at all. While I have another that feels like a "death-ray" at 10 feet away (and no, it doesn't have any wireless capability, so that's not it). Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Christy,
I have to ask, are you feeling different since the smart meter install? If you feel sick from it, you can get a health letter to send to the utility. I understand for now, TX doesn't have an opt out, but If you start to feel ill you can get a health letter. . Remember there is no federal mandate to have a smart meter. Dr. Davis shows a study on 900 Mhz signal causing neuroligical damage. We don't have time for the government to get this. I would not spend time in the room opposite the meter. This is not a joke. My son has autism, Part of the causes was sleeping in his crib 2 ft from a smart meter. I got nerve pain from sleeping in a bedroom w a smart meter outside. Smart meters cause the chicken pox shingles virus to kick up. EMF's cause bad bacteria in your system to multiply quicker. I read taking enough vit E can keep shingles virus at bay. Kathy From: pclafferty <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] New to the group--Diabetes and EMF's I'm new to the group. Our son has Type 1 Diabetes and we see a correlation between his blood sugars rising and exposure to EMF's. Even though doctors think we are crazy, we know what we know. I have been looking into protection against EMF's. There are lots of products out there and I have no way of comparing them. You kinda have to take their word for it... they all say they work, of course. I have looked into 2 companies so far and spoken with them: earthcalm and safeconnectplus. I would love any ideas from all of you about things that have worked. Worst of all, we have a smart meter. We are in TX and there's not a thing we can do about it getting rid of it... unless of course we don't want electricity. Thank you! Christy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'm more than happy to do so. I'm so glad I joined this group, I had no idea the evils of iPhones. You all have my attention. Actually I started putting it on airplane mode and just checking it once and while. I have been smart enough to use the speaker phone in the past as much as possible and not put it up to my ear.
Does it matter to you that i have no symptoms that i know of? I do have fatigue, insomnia, and muscle aches. I assumed all of this was from my hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue, but maybe EMF's are having an effect on me and I don't know it. I have recently begun becoming educated about EMF's and diabetes. So I am concerned about EMF's on my son's diabetes but perhaps they are affecting me as well. I don't feel any different around cell phones that I've noticed, but I'm willing to be a guinea pig. I tell you I did feel a little funny yesterday when I went out to look at our smart meter when I got near it sort of feeling in my stomach when you are on a ride that drops really fast from way up high at an amusement park. It left when I walked away. I thought it was in my head. Christy Lafferty Legacy Portraiture 214-948-4748 [hidden email] www.PictureALegacy.com On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Energy Medicine Technologies wrote: > Marc > > If you have an iPhone would you be willing to try a new device for a week or two & see if you notice a difference for the rest of us? > > I'll send you one of ours to demo, I've learned you don't have to take the backing off with this technology just make sure it's covering the back & both sides. So for you the rubber casing is holding it in place not the stick-um unnder the backing. > > We'll have other models later send me your address & kick the tires. > > Gordy [hidden email] > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > > On June 22, Christy Lafferty <legacyportraiture@...> wrote: > > > Even with a filter, you think? > > > > Well, filters and EMF protection devices can only do so much. > > The other part of the solution is to look at reducing the amount of > > EMF you're being exposed to in the first place. > > > > And yes, I realize that there are all sorts of devices sold that claim > > to make cellphone radiation less harmful. And yet it doesn't seem > > like anyone on this group has ever had much luck with that. In > > the end, the solution always seems to be: > > > > -- not use any cellphone at all > > -- use a low-tech phone for emergency purposes only > > > > There has been some very limited anecdotal evidence here that > > Droid phones are more tolerable than iPhones, which indicates > > to me that it may not even be the wireless communication that > > is causing people's reactions, but rather the electronics inside > > the phone. > > > > Marc > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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We're glad to have you. It's not in your head. Smart meters cause all these symptoms. We slept better when they removed our 2 smart meters. Christy, it is possible to get it removed w determination. The health letter is the 1st step. Then you have to ask for a supervisor & keep calling. There is no federal mandate. Read the health effects at www.stopsmartmeters.org HIgh emf's can make diabetas worse. RF raises glucose. Maybe you can get a health letter on behalf of your son. Are his #;s higher since the install? Do you have wi-fi? All of us on here use hard-wired internet. We used a 2wire modem for a few years before we realized it was giving out wi-fi signals anyway. We had to disable it in the computer settings. If you have this you have to keep disabling at times. If it resets the wi-fi can activate. Kathy From: Christy Lafferty <[hidden email]> : Re: [eSens] Re: New to the group--Diabetes and EMF's I'm more than happy to do so. I'm so glad I joined this group, I had no idea the evils of iPhones. You all have my attention. Actually I started putting it on airplane mode and just checking it once and while. I have been smart enough to use the speaker phone in the past as much as possible and not put it up to my ear. Does it matter to you that i have no symptoms that i know of? I do have fatigue, insomnia, and muscle aches. I assumed all of this was from my hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue, but maybe EMF's are having an effect on me and I don't know it. I have recently begun becoming educated about EMF's and diabetes. So I am concerned about EMF's on my son's diabetes… but perhaps they are affecting me as well. I don't feel any different around cell phones that I've noticed, but I'm willing to be a guinea pig. I tell you I did feel a little funny yesterday when I went out to look at our smart meter when I got near it… sort of feeling in my stomach when you are on a ride that drops really fast from way up high at an amusement park. It left when I walked away. I thought it was in my head. Christy Lafferty Legacy Portraiture 214-948-4748 [hidden email] www.PictureALegacy.com On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Energy Medicine Technologies wrote: > Marc > > If you have an iPhone would you be willing to try a new device for a week or two & see if you notice a difference for the rest of us? > > I'll send you one of ours to demo, I've learned you don't have to take the backing off with this technology just make sure it's covering the back & both sides. So for you the rubber casing is holding it in place not the stick-um unnder the backing. > > We'll have other models later send me your address & kick the tires. > > Gordy [hidden email] > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > > On June 22, Christy Lafferty <legacyportraiture@...> wrote: > > > Even with a filter, you think? > > > > Well, filters and EMF protection devices can only do so much. > > The other part of the solution is to look at reducing the amount of > > EMF you're being exposed to in the first place. > > > > And yes, I realize that there are all sorts of devices sold that claim > > to make cellphone radiation less harmful. And yet it doesn't seem > > like anyone on this group has ever had much luck with that. In > > the end, the solution always seems to be: > > > > -- not use any cellphone at all > > -- use a low-tech phone for emergency purposes only > > > > There has been some very limited anecdotal evidence here that > > Droid phones are more tolerable than iPhones, which indicates > > to me that it may not even be the wireless communication that > > is causing people's reactions, but rather the electronics inside > > the phone. > > > > Marc > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thank you Kathy for this helpful information. I will work on the health letter. That won't be a problem and I will get a supervisor. Yes, his diabetes began after they installed a smart meter. We had the builder of our new house install a hard line for the computer. I don't now what a 2wire modem is? How would I know if we have that? We also have a hard line for our home phone, no cordless. Does anyone in the group know of anyone who was able to get theirs removed in texas? That would be soooooo awesome if I could. I've just been told by many to not bother that you can't fight it.
Thanks everyone! Christy Lafferty Legacy Portraiture 214-948-4748 [hidden email] www.PictureALegacy.com On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:00 PM, KathyB wrote: > Christy, > > We're glad to have you. > > It's not in your head. Smart meters cause all these symptoms. We slept better when they removed our 2 smart meters. Christy, it is possible to get it removed w determination. The health letter is the 1st step. Then you have to ask for a supervisor & keep calling. There is no federal mandate. > > Read the health effects at www.stopsmartmeters.org > > HIgh emf's can make diabetas worse. RF raises glucose. Maybe you can get a health letter on behalf of your son. Are his #;s higher since the install? > > Do you have wi-fi? All of us on here use hard-wired internet. > > We used a 2wire modem for a few years before we realized it was > giving out wi-fi signals anyway. We had to disable it in the computer settings. > > If you have this you have to keep disabling at times. If it resets the wi-fi can > activate. > > Kathy > From: Christy Lafferty <[hidden email]> > : Re: [eSens] Re: New to the group--Diabetes and EMF's > > I'm more than happy to do so. I'm so glad I joined this group, I had no idea the evils of iPhones. You all have my attention. Actually I started putting it on airplane mode and just checking it once and while. I have been smart enough to use the speaker phone in the past as much as possible and not put it up to my ear. > > Does it matter to you that i have no symptoms that i know of? I do have fatigue, insomnia, and muscle aches. I assumed all of this was from my hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue, but maybe EMF's are having an effect on me and I don't know it. I have recently begun becoming educated about EMF's and diabetes. So I am concerned about EMF's on my son's diabetes but perhaps they are affecting me as well. I don't feel any different around cell phones that I've noticed, but I'm willing to be a guinea pig. I tell you I did feel a little funny yesterday when I went out to look at our smart meter when I got near it sort of feeling in my stomach when you are on a ride that drops really fast from way up high at an amusement park. It left when I walked away. I thought it was in my head. > > Christy Lafferty > Legacy Portraiture > 214-948-4748 > [hidden email] > www.PictureALegacy.com > > > On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Energy Medicine Technologies wrote: > > > Marc > > > > If you have an iPhone would you be willing to try a new device for a week or two & see if you notice a difference for the rest of us? > > > > I'll send you one of ours to demo, I've learned you don't have to take the backing off with this technology just make sure it's covering the back & both sides. So for you the rubber casing is holding it in place not the stick-um unnder the backing. > > > > We'll have other models later send me your address & kick the tires. > > > > Gordy [hidden email] > > > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > > > > On June 22, Christy Lafferty <legacyportraiture@...> wrote: > > > > Even with a filter, you think? > > > > > > Well, filters and EMF protection devices can only do so much. > > > The other part of the solution is to look at reducing the amount of > > > EMF you're being exposed to in the first place. > > > > > > And yes, I realize that there are all sorts of devices sold that claim > > > to make cellphone radiation less harmful. And yet it doesn't seem > > > like anyone on this group has ever had much luck with that. In > > > the end, the solution always seems to be: > > > > > > -- not use any cellphone at all > > > -- use a low-tech phone for emergency purposes only > > > > > > There has been some very limited anecdotal evidence here that > > > Droid phones are more tolerable than iPhones, which indicates > > > to me that it may not even be the wireless communication that > > > is causing people's reactions, but rather the electronics inside > > > the phone. > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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You need a letter from his doctor. The 2wire is a moden that you plug your dsl cables into near your desk area. You did the the right thing w the builder Here's my doc's letter that helped get the meters off As the physician of ( ) I am writing to you regarding the uses of digital meters in her home. She has an electrical hypersensitivity and the digital meters are affecting her health. It is medically necessary for the digital meters to be replaced with analog meters. If you have any questions regarding this issue, please feel free to contact me directly. Kathy From: Christy Lafferty <[hidden email]> Re: [eSens] Re: New to the group--Diabetes and EMF's Thank you Kathy for this helpful information. I will work on the health letter. That won't be a problem and I will get a supervisor. Yes, his diabetes began after they installed a smart meter. We had the builder of our new house install a hard line for the computer. I don't now what a 2wire modem is? How would I know if we have that? We also have a hard line for our home phone, no cordless. Does anyone in the group know of anyone who was able to get theirs removed in texas? That would be soooooo awesome if I could. I've just been told by many to not bother that you can't fight it. Thanks everyone! Christy Lafferty Legacy Portraiture 214-948-4748 [hidden email] www.PictureALegacy.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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