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Hello everyone, I just joined the group after hearing about it on CFSexperimental. Hi Marc, we discussed emfs there many times. I got a panasonic home phone with a wireless phone, it is new with 5.8 ghz. I got it because it has speaker phones on the station and hand set so I never have to put my head against it. My question is whether the unit has radiation in general or when the hand set is away from the base. Paul |
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Welcome to the list. I don't use a cordless phone anymore. The
radiation from the cordless phone itself gives me a headache. I recommend getting an RF meter like the HF-Detektor II PROFI or some sensitive RF meter. Check to see if your base is pumping out radiation even when you are not talking on the phone. My inlaws have a cordless phone base station that pumps out radiation higher than a cell phone! I have them unplug it and pull the batteries out of it every time I visit. On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:14 AM, danceswild wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, I just joined the group after hearing about it on > CFSexperimental. Hi Marc, we discussed emfs there many times. > > I got a panasonic home phone with a wireless phone, it is new with > 5.8 ghz. I got it because it has speaker phones on the station and > hand set so I never have to put my head against it. My question is > whether the unit has radiation in general or when the hand set is > away from the base. > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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Welcome, Paul. I too had a cordless Panasonic phone. I decommissioned it as soon as we realized my husband was ES. An engineer friend recommended doing this, but the truth is I could *feel* the radiation in my head every time I used the phone (and I am not particularly electrically sensitive). FYI, even my husband's telephone headset seems to trigger ES symptoms if used for an extended time. An old- fashioned corded phone, as low-tech as possible, seems preferable. For ES purposes, my rule of thumb is that wired is better than wireless. I am now in the process of weaning myself off my wireless, high-speed Internet connection. (Not easy.) Cara --- In [hidden email], "danceswild" <bmfb@p...> wrote: > I got a panasonic home phone with a wireless phone, it is new with > 5.8 ghz. I got it because it has speaker phones on the station and > hand set so I never have to put my head against it. My question is > whether the unit has radiation in general or when the hand set is > away from the base. > > Paul |
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Thanks Andrew and Cara, I only use the speaker phone. I know the phone is terrible up close as measured by the trifield meter. You mean you can't be anywhere in the house with it on? Will the meter measure waves at a distance. Are wireless cafes like this? Paul --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@n...> wrote: > Welcome to the list. I don't use a cordless phone anymore. The > radiation from the cordless phone itself gives me a headache. I > recommend getting an RF meter like the HF-Detektor II PROFI or some > sensitive RF meter. Check to see if your base is pumping out radiation > even when you are not talking on the phone. My inlaws have a cordless > phone base station that pumps out radiation higher than a cell phone! > I have them unplug it and pull the batteries out of it every time I > visit. > > > On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:14 AM, danceswild wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, I just joined the group after hearing about it on > > CFSexperimental. Hi Marc, we discussed emfs there many times. > > > > I got a panasonic home phone with a wireless phone, it is new with > > 5.8 ghz. I got it because it has speaker phones on the station and > > hand set so I never have to put my head against it. My question is > > whether the unit has radiation in general or when the hand set is > > away from the base. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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The radiation diminishes with distance of course and depending upon
your sensitivity, yes, you are getting it throughout your house. How much radiation you want is up to you. And yes, hotels, cafes, airports that are wired for wireless all have microwave radiation blanketing the area. You will have to figure out what you can handle. I don't even use my meter any more. The symptoms are predictable and in the same places on my body. good luck, Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, at 1:57 PM, danceswild wrote: > > > Thanks Andrew and Cara, > > I only use the speaker phone. I know the phone is terrible up close > as measured by the trifield meter. You mean you can't be anywhere in > the house with it on? Will the meter measure waves at a distance. Are > wireless cafes like this? > > Paul > > > --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@n...> wrote: >> Welcome to the list. I don't use a cordless phone anymore. The >> radiation from the cordless phone itself gives me a headache. I >> recommend getting an RF meter like the HF-Detektor II PROFI or some >> sensitive RF meter. Check to see if your base is pumping out > radiation >> even when you are not talking on the phone. My inlaws have a > cordless >> phone base station that pumps out radiation higher than a cell > phone! >> I have them unplug it and pull the batteries out of it every time I >> visit. >> >> >> On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:14 AM, danceswild wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello everyone, I just joined the group after hearing about it on >>> CFSexperimental. Hi Marc, we discussed emfs there many times. >>> >>> I got a panasonic home phone with a wireless phone, it is new with >>> 5.8 ghz. I got it because it has speaker phones on the station and >>> hand set so I never have to put my head against it. My question is >>> whether the unit has radiation in general or when the hand set is >>> away from the base. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote: > FYI, even my husband's telephone headset seems to trigger ES > symptoms if used for an extended time. An old-fashioned corded > phone, as low-tech as possible, seems preferable. I use a Plantronics 'Vista' M12 headset amplifier powered only by the optional battery mode. 2 AA batteries is all the headset needs and they last for months. The field associated with the Vista amp unit drops beneath the threshold of my TriField meter to measure at a range of 3 inches at maximum volume. The earpiece speaker AC field stays beneath a 60Hz effective strength of 0.6 mG with the meter in direct contact at its most sensitive location, dropping to unmeasurable at just over an inch, at a volume which is quite audible for me. This setup has allowed me extended phone conversations with much less discomfort. :) I've placed a photo of this setup, "Plantronics Vista M12 setup" in our Photos section, Low EM Phone Configuration album. I invested in this after standard landline phone receivers began to trigger my ES. The portion next to the ear usually has a strong DC magnet as part of the speaker assembly. (In contrast, the Vista's earpiece speaker's DC magnet is approximately 7x less strong than my standard phone's speaker.) And once it is driven by the AC phone signal, it creates an AC field which is too strong for me to hold at my ear. You can also look at the Vista unit's specs here: http://tinyurl.com/3mce6 > For ES purposes, my rule of thumb is that wired is better than > wireless. Thumbs up to that! The wired phone frequencies are typically much lower and the fields are confined near the wire. Beau |
Re: Low EM phone setup [was Re: New to Group]
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An even better solution is to use a wired phone with an air tube
headset. No EMF at all emitted from the air tube. Not all wired phones will accept a headset. Less EMF Inc offers both the headset alone, and a complete phone with the special headset. See http://www.lessemf.com/es.html Emil At 05:47 PM 1/21/2005, you wrote: >--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote: > > FYI, even my husband's telephone headset seems to trigger ES > > symptoms if used for an extended time. An old-fashioned corded > > phone, as low-tech as possible, seems preferable. > >I use a Plantronics 'Vista' M12 headset amplifier powered only by the >optional battery mode. 2 AA batteries is all the headset needs and >they last for months. The field associated with the Vista amp unit >drops beneath the threshold of my TriField meter to measure at a range >of 3 inches at maximum volume. The earpiece speaker AC field stays >beneath a 60Hz effective strength of 0.6 mG with the meter in direct >contact at its most sensitive location, dropping to unmeasurable at >just over an inch, at a volume which is quite audible for me. > >This setup has allowed me extended phone conversations with much less >discomfort. :) > >I've placed a photo of this setup, "Plantronics Vista M12 setup" in >our Photos section, Low EM Phone Configuration album. > >I invested in this after standard landline phone receivers began to >trigger my ES. The portion next to the ear usually has a strong DC >magnet as part of the speaker assembly. (In contrast, the Vista's >earpiece speaker's DC magnet is approximately 7x less strong than my >standard phone's speaker.) And once it is driven by the AC phone >signal, it creates an AC field which is too strong for me to hold at >my ear. > >You can also look at the Vista unit's specs here: >http://tinyurl.com/3mce6 > > > For ES purposes, my rule of thumb is that wired is better than > > wireless. > >Thumbs up to that! The wired phone frequencies are typically much >lower and the fields are confined near the wire. > >Beau > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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--- In [hidden email], "Less EMF Inc." <lessemf@l...> wrote: > An even better solution is to use a wired phone with an air tube > headset. No EMF at all emitted from the air tube. Not all wired > phones will accept a headset. Less EMF Inc offers both the headset > alone, and a complete phone with the special headset. See > http://www.lessemf.com/es.html > > Emil > Thanks for the head's up on this headset setup, Emil! ;) How long is the air tube on the headset? It looks about 8 in. long in the picture on: http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#HandsFree Thanks again, Beau |
Re: Low EM phone setup [was Re: New to Group]
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Yes, I think it is 9 inches long.
At 08:16 PM 1/21/2005, you wrote: >--- In [hidden email], "Less EMF Inc." <lessemf@l...> wrote: > > An even better solution is to use a wired phone with an air tube > > headset. No EMF at all emitted from the air tube. Not all wired > > phones will accept a headset. Less EMF Inc offers both the headset > > alone, and a complete phone with the special headset. See > > http://www.lessemf.com/es.html > > > > Emil > > > >Thanks for the head's up on this headset setup, Emil! ;) How long is >the air tube on the headset? It looks about 8 in. long in the picture >on: http://www.lessemf.com/cellphon.html#HandsFree > >Thanks again, >Beau > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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