New here and need help

Hi Everyone,
I am just learning all about EMF. It is confusing with so much out there toread. On the flip side I have also been reading that these pendants are a scam. I do believe EMF are real. But looking for something that would protect my home is difficult. I have no idea where to look. SO items are really expensive. I cannot afford those high end items. Can someone give me a place to look to possibly order a home protector. I have seen some you plug into the wall. Are they effective? I have read up on the Q links, pros and cons, which make me more confused on what to get. I am not real technical at all, so I hope you can bear with me on this. Thank you all so much for your help.

Barb

Welcome Barb! I wouldn't say that *all* of the EMF pendants are a scam,
because some people have seen definite improvements from specific
pendants/devices. However, there is nothing that seems to work for
everyone.

As for a Home Protector, a good one is the "Quantum Home" from
QuantumProducts.com, but this may fall into the "too expensive"
category for you? I think all of the home protectors are pretty
expensive, unless you do something like put Tachyon silica discs
on your fuse box (which may or may not help).

I have NOT seen a lot of success stories here with the Q-Link.
So that might be something you should skip, even though I realize
they have a large marketing budget. A good cheap place to start
might be a "Personal Polarizer" from cutcat.com or a RADAR card
from radar3.com

Marc

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Have you had your house tested so you you know what you are dealing with? That is the first thing. Non sense in throwing money at a problem without specifics. Loni

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Subject: [eSens] New here and need help
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Hi Everyone,
I am just learning all about EMF. It is confusing with so much out there toread. On the flip side I have also been reading that these pendants are a scam. I do believe EMF are real. But looking for something that would protect my home is difficult. I have no idea where to look. SO items are really expensive. I cannot afford those high end items. Can someone give me a place to look to possibly order a home protector. I have seen some you plug into the wall. Are they effective? I have read up on the Q links, pros and cons, which make me more confused on what to get. I am not real technical at all, so I hope you can bear with me on this. Thank you all so much for your help.

Barb

















     

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Hello Barb -

What you will soon learn - what works for you is dependent upon your genes -
The chinese recently discovered the defective gene that allows kids to get leukemia. The children with defective genes cannot repair the DNA damage caused by the EMF from power lines.

Scientists now know that cell phones do effect the DNA and can cause cancer- but they can't agree upon how it happens. Does the radiation stop the DNA from repairing itself or does it damage the DNA directly. Do people have different defective genes that can't fight the damage from electropollution? This is where the science now leads us.  

My dad was a raydar cop that sat in his squad car with the ray gun in his lap which in turn radiated his sex organs. His CB radio was beside him 6 hours a day, allways on -always listening to calls for help. I was born electrosensitive. My dad died of brain cancer.
Everytime I went to the dentist for fillings my teeth became loose - I was allergic to mercury in the fillings. I just thought that was a normal part of going to the dentist.

Pay attention to the cell phone warnings because they are real. I filmed the senate hearings a few weeks ago that dealt with cell phones and brain cancer. Scarry stuff and it's real.

So - where to start.

Last year - I made a documentary for Deepak Chopra.

Here is what Deepak Chopra says about Q-link

"We have found that you and your Q-Link begin to create a linked energy system over time - a sympathetic resonance effect, to use the technical term. This effect reinforces and enhances specific life-supporting energies in your biofield.

Occasionally, customers do not feel any effects at all. However, when we examine these individuals with various tests, we find beneficial changes thatthey simply haven't noticed.

"I feel quite invigorated wearing it."
Deepak Chopra, M.D.

I bought one 15 years ago and wear it every day and swear by it. I sit in front of computers making documentaries and scientific reports about EMF almost 12 hours a day. I became very hypersensitive to electricity. The Q-link kept me awake but that is not enough to keep the cancer away.  

Your best bet is to turn off the power in your house when you sleep at night. Just find a way to keep the fridge and heat going. When you sleep in anenvironment free of electropollution - your DNA will heal from the bombardment of radiation from our environment.
Camping is a great way to heal and get grounded to the earth.  

During the day, use stetzer filters in your outlets to remove the frequencies that are harmful to the human body. I have seen people that have multiple sclerosis been cured. Mr Stetzer is an amazing man that was an electrician for farmers who could not keep their cows alive because of the ground current and "dirty electricity" that is pumped through the earth and into thebarn and into the cows by utility companies. He found ways to mitigate that problem on farms - and his research is now being incorporated into dairyfarms all over the world and laws were just passed to protect farmers in Canada. But those laws only work for farmers. You need to do the same thing in your home....

Just like the q-link - You may feel nothing different when you use these Stetzer filters in your home - but do understand you are removing very harmful radiated frequencies from the wireing in that walls and your appliances and lights.  

Read up on a man named Rife - and you will soon understand that the world of cancer evolves and revolves around the electromagnetic fields in radio waves. If breast cancer runs in your family - the defective gene again comesinto play.

Radio waves love the human body and you absorb them like a sponge. These waves like the metals in your cells that carry electrical impulses throughoutyour nervous system and they attach themselves to them and do damage to the DNA.

You need to detox the harmful heavy metals in your mouth, body and brain - especially the mercury. A good dentist and Far infrared saunas and sweat lodges are wonderful for this. It's fun - sweat the metals out, but make sureto replenish the minerals that are lost -especially magnesium- so important to the functioning of the cells electromagnetic property.

Pulsating Electromagnetic Field Therapy is emerging quickly as a way of helping people with magnetic deficiency syndrome. Mats like the MRS2000, and the QRS are expensive devises but have amazing powers to cure electrical problems in your nervous system. I tried them all and then bought them too and these are healing machines right out of Star trek and they do work miracles. These PEMF devises are just now becoming FDA approved after many yearsof being limited only for use on animals. Times are changing..

The most important thing to remember is - Everyone is different - somethings work for some people - other things don't because we are all different. It's really trial and error.
You need to do the research and it's confusing and contradictory as the Government and Industry attempt to keep us in the dark about what is really causing cancer and our illness- EHS.

But

The Q-link was the beginning for me.......It works for me.

> The Q-link was the beginning for me.......It works for me.

Wow, thanks for that feedback - so far the percentage of
folks here that the Q-Link has worked for appears to be
quite low. I *do* notice the Q-Link doing something, but for me
it seems very weak compared to some of the other things
available.

Marc

Hi, Barb,
 
Welcome to the group!  I have a Quantum Pro.  It works great for me. It was very expensive ($500) but came with a 60 day return policy.  The company has a less pricey model called the Quantum Home that I do not recommend (It doesn't have all the fine settings mine does and the setting whichworks best for me isn't even on it, if I recall correctly.)  I also tried the Quantum Companion, which I returned, as that didn't meet my needs. (But Marc owns this one and likes it.)  Without the Q Pro I was unable to live in my house, so it was well worth it and saved me selling the place.  I have planned to try a couple of the inexpensive portable thingssuch as the personal polarizer but have not gotten around to ordering them yet. 

Hope you find something that works well for you,
Diane

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From: barbpom2000 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] New here and need help
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Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:11 PM


 



Hi Everyone,
I am just learning all about EMF. It is confusing with so much out there toread. On the flip side I have also been reading that these pendants are a scam. I do believe EMF are real. But looking for something that would protect my home is difficult. I have no idea where to look. SO items are really expensive. I cannot afford those high end items. Can someone give me a place to look to possibly order a home protector. I have seen some you plug into the wall. Are they effective? I have read up on the Q links, pros and cons, which make me more confused on what to get. I am not real technical at all, so I hope you can bear with me on this. Thank you all so much for your help.

Barb

















     

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> I also tried the Quantum Companion, which I returned, as that didn't
> meet my needs.  (But Marc owns this one and likes it.) 

The Quantum Companion is admittedly weak... although using two at
the same time is stronger than one! The Quantum Pro is much
stronger, although I think it may be too strong for some households.
I just got the newer/stronger/more adjustable Quantum Pro for my
workplace ... I would NOT want this is my house -- it's too strong!

Marc

Hi, Marc,
 
The Quantum Pro has so many settings, that I never thought it could be too strong.  You can literally set it very low to very high on the dial.  Then on the back of the unit, it has a button to fine tune the settings--18 in all.  So I am surprised you think it is too strong, Marc!  Haveyou tried it very low in your home, then?  I am quite surprised it was too strong for you.  My understanding from the company rep I talked to is it is the same as the Q Home except with more range and settings.  You also are advised by the company to use the Q Pro if your home is larger than 1500 sq feet.  My house is 1000sf main floor and 1000sf basement, so the rep recommended the Pro for me. 
 
Diane

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> I also tried the Quantum Companion, which I returned, as that didn't
> meet my needs.  (But Marc owns this one and likes it.) 

The Quantum Companion is admittedly weak... although using two at
the same time is stronger than one! The Quantum Pro is much
stronger, although I think it may be too strong for some households.
I just got the newer/stronger/ more adjustable Quantum Pro for my
workplace ... I would NOT want this is my house -- it's too strong!

Marc
















     

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> The Quantum Pro has so many settings, that I never thought it could be
> too strong.  You can literally set it very low to very high on the dial. 
> Then on the back of the unit, it has a button to fine tune the
> settings--18 in all.  So I am surprised you think it is too strong, Marc!

Well, note that I was only a few feet away from the unit when I tried
it out at home. If I was in some other room, it would probably be fine.
I think that even at the low setting, the Quantum Pro is stronger than
the Quantum Home would be at the highest setting.

But the Quantum Pro seems fine at work, which is where I'm using it.

Marc

Wow Marc,

That is interesting!  If I am experiencing a frequency surge (happens sometimes in the afternoon after all the kids and moms return home), I actually plug the unit in next to me and it makes me feel normal again!  I even like to sleep with it in my room.  I know we were discussing these units a few months ago and the setting I always use was not actually on your Quantum Home.  Maybe because I have an odd magnetic thing going on in my body (or that I react as a capacitor) I "like" the stronger field more than people who are straight ES?  We should try to break down the subsets ofEMSers and see whether people with different symptoms like particular products.  (But I have no idea how to go about that right now since I am inudated with work at the moment.)
 
Thanks for your input, Marc,
Diane
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> The Quantum Pro has so many settings, that I never thought it could be
> too strong.  You can literally set it very low to very high on the dial. 
> Then on the back of the unit, it has a button to fine tune the
> settings--18 in all.  So I am surprised you think it is too strong, Marc!

Well, note that I was only a few feet away from the unit when I tried
it out at home. If I was in some other room, it would probably be fine.
I think that even at the low setting, the Quantum Pro is stronger than
the Quantum Home would be at the highest setting.

But the Quantum Pro seems fine at work, which is where I'm using it.

Marc
















     

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Does it help? Have you found any specific combination that helps with es?
 
Thanks,
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> Does it help? Have you found any specific combination that helps with es?

I find carrot juice to be helpful... nothing too dramatic, though...

Marc

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Does it help? Have you found any specific combination that helps with es?

I find carrot juice to be helpful... nothing too dramatic, though...

Marc



Paul uk replies - I found puffing away on a few ciggeretts per day for the
last 6 months has given my body something else that overshaadows
temporarily the effects of certain local EMFS. In a round about way I guess when I
am feeling fit and well I have further to fall when EMF strikes, but smoking
has put me completely off par so in effect I have less of a way to fall
when I experience ES symptoms, a sort of poisinous diversion therapy.
Fotunately I have come to my senses and now am looking to get my strength and
energies up where they belong by saying no to the ciggerette, and yes to a few
supplements and the usual ES avoidance, which is a lot easier now I am out
of work, lets not go there though as Chrismas is coming !


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Having used organic tobacco for a few years for the relief of asthma, I have noticed that it sometimes brings relief after an emf exposure, that leaves my head buzzing, say driving through strong wifi areas while I'm going around town, or just having to be in town too long. It doesn't heal it, but it does seem to relieve it much quicker.

I would think part of that is the known nature of the beast, it works as a smooth muscle relaxant, but I suspect there is something more in the works on the myelin, or slowing the impulse receptors...

I've read that marijuana is also beneficial in protecting the myelin sheath, and reducing emf effects, although that is not my cup of tea, I'm not in as bad shape as a few of you here, and it might help people who can get it as an Rx.

I don't recommend using most tobacco, because of all it's chemicals, including heavy metals, and then I found this link the other day, showing the amounts of sugar - think carmelization when you cook sugar, = carcinogen. It's not tobacco itself there's anything wrong with.
Alright, can't find the link now, but it's on youtube called "The Truth About Tobacco".

~ Snoshoe

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Having used organic tobacco for a few years for the relief of asthma, I
have noticed that it sometimes brings relief after an emf exposure, that
leaves my head buzzing, say driving through strong wifi areas while I'm going
around town, or just having to be in town too long. It doesn't heal it, but
it does seem to relieve it much quicker.

I would think part of that is the known nature of the beast, it works as a
smooth muscle relaxant, but I suspect there is something more in the works
on the myelin, or slowing the impulse receptors


PUK replies - I took up smoking for a while say 2-3 a day which had some
benefits re EMF symptoms, I put this down to diverting the bodys attention to
something that in the immediate term is worse than emf exposure, also the
muscles work on intricate electrical signals so I suppose that emf will
cuase muscle contraction with continued exposure, the muscles will also learn
this response, so anything that relaxes the muscles will help to alleviate
many of the induced stress symptoms that come with ES.


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